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  • newbreed
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 9898

    #1

    Can someone explain how I have over 200,000 hits from a certain domain...

    ...but they are not an affiliate and claim they have no links up to one of our sites? They are in the toplist of referers, from a login.php page on another paysite. The operator of the site says she has no clue, that maybe her members are leaving her site and typing in mine or they have bookmarks to mine.

    Over 200.000 hits is less than two weeks, and ideas?

    Thanks,
    Bill

    Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
    I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
    fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
  • zzgundamnzz
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 6102

    #2
    Maybe those people are getting yours and her site off of a password list site?


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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978

      #3
      Freakin bots

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      • newbreed
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2003
        • 9898

        #4
        Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
        Maybe those people are getting yours and her site off of a password list site?
        Didn't think about that one.

        Also another note, my referer logs were not rotected for a few days until I discovered this.

        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
        I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
        fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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        • newbreed
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 9898

          #5
          Originally posted by spunky
          Freakin bots
          But what reason would they have for botting my site? They are not affiliates, nor are they selling me traffic. No exits, nada.

          Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
          I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
          fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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          • detoxed
            vip member
            • Jan 2003
            • 17798

            #6
            do they have forums

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            • newbreed
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2003
              • 9898

              #7
              Originally posted by detoxed
              do they have forums
              No, the url is like this...

              http://www.deleted.com/login/login.php

              Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
              I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
              fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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              • Intrigue
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2004
                • 662

                #8
                I'm about 90% certain that a browser will not send a 'referrer header' unless that site somehow refers them (link, redirect, etc..) I've never had to think about it, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't just send the last page you were on

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                • newbreed
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 9898

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Intrigue
                  I'm about 90% certain that a browser will not send a 'referrer header' unless that site somehow refers them (link, redirect, etc..) I've never had to think about it, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't just send the last page you were on
                  http://www.deleted.com/login/login.php <<-------This is what is in my stats if that helps, but there is no visible sign of a link or anything on that site, not even in the member area (according to the site owner) to my site.

                  Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                  I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                  fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                  • goBigtime
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 7761

                    #10
                    ref spamming you maybe.

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                    • kaliboy2g
                      So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 10963

                      #11
                      If it helps.

                      I know the guy who runs it.
                      Care about me?
                      Who?
                      Me!
                      Who?

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                      • newbreed
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9898

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                        If it helps.

                        I know the guy who runs it.
                        Runs what? "deleted.com"? That was an example used, I deleted the actual domain in question.

                        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                        I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                        fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                        • newbreed
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9898

                          #13
                          Originally posted by goBigtime
                          ref spamming you maybe.
                          Is there any way to prove that is what is happening?

                          Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                          I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                          fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                          • kaliboy2g
                            So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 10963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by newbreed
                            Runs what? "deleted.com"? That was an example used, I deleted the actual domain in question.

                            ahh okay.

                            I thought it was deleted.com
                            I know that guy.
                            Care about me?
                            Who?
                            Me!
                            Who?

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                            • Sama
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1445

                              #15
                              Maybe they are using your content within their members area? Is your content marked with your domain name?

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                              • newbreed
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 9898

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kaliboy2g
                                ahh okay.

                                I thought it was deleted.com
                                I know that guy.
                                Ok, sorry I wasn't more clear about it before...lol I should have made it more obvious.

                                Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                • newbreed
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 9898

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sama
                                  Maybe they are using your content within their members area? Is your content marked with your domain name?
                                  I thought that also, and not all of my content is marked. It's another single-girl site involved, so the traffic is right for the site, but they would make much more in return if they just signed up...lol

                                  Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                  I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                  fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                  • OzMan
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2003
                                    • 9162

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by newbreed
                                    Is there any way to prove that is what is happening?
                                    Yup, it sounds like refbombing to me.

                                    Why? I have no idea. Maybe somebody who doesn't like you or the other site and wants to make trouble or at least fuck up your stats.

                                    Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.

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                                    • newbreed
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 9898

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by OzMan
                                      Yup, it sounds like refbombing to me.

                                      Why? I have no idea. Maybe somebody who doesn't like you or the other site and wants to make trouble or at least fuck up your stats.

                                      Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.
                                      All the things you listed are there, this is what I was trying to confim

                                      Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                      I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                      fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                      • Odin88
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 3267

                                        #20
                                        Get your ref spammer at www.adminshop.com .

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                                        • newbreed
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 9898

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Odin88
                                          Fuck over people who made it by working long and hard and being original at www.adminsh0p.com .

                                          Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                          I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                          fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

                                          Comment

                                          • OzMan
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 9162

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by newbreed
                                            All the things you listed are there, this is what I was trying to confim
                                            Maybe it's your good buddy from down under's way of saying he misses you.

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                                            • Beerbar
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2004
                                              • 145

                                              #23
                                              Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.
                                              The same thing happens to me, (not the same site but other paysite member log in url appearing to link to mine) I'm with nationalnet and the tech guys there, said basically it was brute force attack with a spoofed url

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                                              • Odin88
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 3267

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by newbreed
                                                piss off whiney little faggots like me. buy the refspammer from www.adminshop.com and make me cry!

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                                                • vixm
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 605

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah, I would say check log files for the same IP. You may even need to block the entire IP block.


                                                  One other thing no one pointed out. Is someone mass spamming your site?

                                                  If the domain showed 'links' to your domain it's possible your stats program / script is counting it over and over.

                                                  Why they would spam your Email? I dunno.
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                                                  • Repetitive Monkey
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 3505

                                                    #26
                                                    AdminShop sells evil software for evil people who like money. Shame on them.

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                                                    • newbreed
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 9898

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Odin88
                                                      I can't make it in this business without being honest and doing the wrong thing, and I sell my wares to other people so they too can be a fucking crook like me!

                                                      Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                                      I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                                      fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                                      • Odin88
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 3267

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by newbreed
                                                        I am a little pissant who works all day and all night long to earn the same amount of money Odin88 earns in an hour of sleep.

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                                                        • newbreed
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 9898

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Odin88
                                                          One of these days I will make half of what NewBreed makes a week. I'm still working on it now though. If I keep working hard enough, I may make it. I think I may even think of something original so I don't have to sell some of my software that takes advantage of honest, hardworking people like him. Of course, I am an ass, so I probably will continue to provide tools that help other people make money by cheating and being generally dishonest. We'll see though, because there is BIG money in helping other people rip people off!

                                                          Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                                          I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                                          fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                                          • JulianSosa
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 3042

                                                            #30
                                                            I have a theory.
                                                            Along time ago I had some paysites that would get a shitload of hits from other paysite members areas. At first I thought the other members areas were stealing my content. I came to the conclusion that we were listed on the same refferer spoofing program. One after the other. I Know it was not password sites because we had great password sharing protection with proxy pass.

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                                                            • newbreed
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 9898

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JulianSosa
                                                              I have a theory.
                                                              Along time ago I had some paysites that would get a shitload of hits from other paysite members areas. At first I thought the other members areas were stealing my content. I came to the conclusion that we were listed on the same refferer spoofing program. One after the other. I Know it was not password sites because we had great password sharing protection with proxy pass.
                                                              Same here with the password control, that's why I strongly believe it's ref. spam.

                                                              Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                                              I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                                              fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                                              • JulianSosa
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                • 3042

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by newbreed
                                                                Same here with the password control, that's why I strongly believe it's ref. spam.

                                                                Not ref spamming, Ref Spoofing. Is the members area using refferer protection?

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