meal replacement powder that is safe as it gets with no SHIT in it
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for one most serious bodybuilders eat all real food and leave shakes to people who dont know better.
but if you ask the nitrotech ready made 45g is real good.
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Try getting a large bag of CFM Whey protein and drinking about 20-40g every 2 hrs. You should be able to get a 20kg sack of it for quite cheap.
If you want to gain weight, don't think of it as a 'meal replacement', think of it as a meal addition.Comment
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I like Champion Nutrition Pure Whey... drink about 2 per day...
It mixes very easy and tastes great.
It's not MRP, only protein.. but it all works the same for me..
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why? what is wrong with MRP? isn't safe as food?Originally posted by EscortBiz
for one most serious bodybuilders eat all real food and leave shakes to people who dont know better.
but if you ask the nitrotech ready made 45g is real good.Comment
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I suck down a MRP with an extra scoop of whey immediately after a workout, because they digest very quickly. That's just about the only time I use them. I use Mealplex, it's cheap and I see no reason why I should spend a bunch of money on MRPs. Mealplex contains maltodextrin though.
Just a whey shake alone will not give an insulin reaction, and that's the point of MPRs, to create an insulin reaction. That's particularly important immediately after a workout, because insulin is one of the most anabolic hormones in the body, next to GH and testosterone.I like Champion Nutrition Pure Whey... drink about 2 per day...
It mixes very easy and tastes great.
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i should say that i suppliment non-protein foods with whey... so I'm still eating...Get you some vibrators for women now!Comment
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ok , lets put it this way: what is the most natural and most safe way to get an extra 100g of protein a day which is not real food or whey ( I have a gut problem with whey ) ?Comment
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Why not real food? You can get that easily eating eggs and tuna.Originally posted by Zester
ok , lets put it this way: what is the most natural and most safe way to get an extra 100g of protein a day which is not real food or whey ( I have a gut problem with whey ) ?Comment
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go buy some optimun whey (the top selling brand, buy the choclate the strawberry and vanilla taste like shit, but the choclate mint is also good) go buys some oatmeal, put the oatmeal inside a grinder grind to a powder. Mix the oatmeal with 2 scoops of the whey but in a shaker bottle. This is all you need, gives your carbs and protein.
bodybuilding.com sells all that stuff, dont go to gnc the prices are twice as much, except the shaker bottles bodybuilding.com sells are crapComment
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im not sure about non whey protein i know there are some go check the forums at bodybuilding.comOriginally posted by Zester
ok , lets put it this way: what is the most natural and most safe way to get an extra 100g of protein a day which is not real food or whey ( I have a gut problem with whey ) ?Comment
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tuna everyday ? is that healthy ?Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Why not real food? You can get that easily eating eggs and tuna.Comment
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soya or casin proteins have their benefits. You might be having problems digesting that much protein. Just cut your consumption in half for a couple of weeks and maybe add some fibre (metamucil) or ginger root to you protein 'shakes'.Originally posted by Zester
ok , lets put it this way: what is the most natural and most safe way to get an extra 100g of protein a day which is not real food or whey ( I have a gut problem with whey ) ?Comment
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no. it that is too much sodium and there is something else that it has too much of but i can't remember.Originally posted by Zester
tuna everyday ? is that healthy ?
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It's mercuryOriginally posted by SinSational
no. it that is too much sodium and there is something else that it has too much of but i can't remember.
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Working out isn't healthy, the risk of injury is too great. Try a nice brisk walk before sitting down for a night of TVOriginally posted by SinSational
no. it that is too much sodium and there is something else that it has too much of but i can't remember.
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how much protein is in 1 cooked egg?Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Why not real food? You can get that easily eating eggs and tuna.Comment
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That's not true, many pros suck down a MRP after a workout. Real food is almost always better, but some people don't have an appetite after a workout, so a MRP is the next best thing. That's me on legs day.Originally posted by EscortBiz
for one most serious bodybuilders eat all real food and leave shakes to people who dont know better.Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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Having zero carbs completely defeats the entire point of a MRP.Originally posted by HighOnAcid
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Originally posted by CET
That's not true, many pros suck down a MRP after a workout. Real food is almost always better, but some people don't have an appetite after a workout, so a MRP is the next best thing. That's me on legs day.
what don't you want to say why food is always better than MRP if MRP is just graind food ?Comment
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You can get protein powders that do not contain whey. You can get then with egg whites and/or soy. Egg whites digest very quickly, not as fast as whey, but still pretty damn fast. Egg white protein powder tastes pretty good too.Originally posted by Zester
ok , lets put it this way: what is the most natural and most safe way to get an extra 100g of protein a day which is not real food or whey ( I have a gut problem with whey ) ?Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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Don't listen to what this guy is saying, he doesn't even know. If you cut down your protein intake, your size and strength gains will slow down dramatically.Originally posted by gwilkins
soya or casin proteins have their benefits. You might be having problems digesting that much protein. Just cut your consumption in half for a couple of weeks and maybe add some fibre (metamucil) or ginger root to you protein 'shakes'.Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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5-9 grams, depending on the size of the egg. I suggest not eating the yolk though, because it's mostly fat. Without the yolk, you can expect 2-5 grams of protein.Originally posted by Zester
how much protein is in 1 cooked egg?Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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You can only digest so much protein in a day.... How much do you think that is...Originally posted by CET
Don't listen to what this guy is saying, he doesn't even know. If you cut down your protein intake, your size and strength gains will slow down dramatically.
BTW, 6g of protein in a large white egg
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name one pro wtf are you talking about I sure hope you dont beleive those ads, a shake here and there yes but thats about it.Originally posted by CET
That's not true, many pros suck down a MRP after a workout. Real food is almost always better, but some people don't have an appetite after a workout, so a MRP is the next best thing. That's me on legs day.
When you spend 250 - 800 bucks an hour to talk on the phone with pros like jay cutler, lee priest, ronnie colman etc. and get facts let me know.
Fact is there are very few big guys walking around yet millions of people are shoving these shakes down, dont kid yourself please.
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Huh?Originally posted by Zester
what don't you want to say why food is always better than MRP if MRP is just graind food ?Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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The human body can utilize, on average, 36 grams of protein towards muscle maintenance and repair in a 3 hour period.Originally posted by gwilkins
You can only digest so much protein in a day.... How much do you think that is...
BTW, 6g of protein in a large white egg
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sorry , i ment : why don't you want to tell us why food is always better than MRP ?Originally posted by CET
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Everyone posting advice should also post a pic of themselves. Makes it a bit easier to know who to trust
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Johnnie O. Here's another, Jay Cutler.Originally posted by EscortBiz
name one pro wtf are you talking about I sure hope you dont beleive those ads, a shake here and there yes but thats about it.
Don't need to do that, I write about this stuff for a living.Originally posted by EscortBiz
When you spend 250 - 800 bucks an hour to talk on the phone with pros like jay cutler, lee priest, ronnie colman etc. and get facts let me know.
What's your point here? Sucking down a shake isn't going to turn me or anyone else into Ronnie Coleman, that's determined by genetics and how much gear you can afford. I'm not saying that, nor did I ever say that. I do think that a MRP immediately after a workout is important, because your body needs nutrients as quickly as possible while it is in an anabolic state. If you wait too long, that anabolic state will quickly turn into a catabolic state. No matter what you NEED to eat SOMETHING after a workout, and MRPs are quick, convenient, and contain most everything your body needs for a post workout recovery.Originally posted by EscortBiz
Fact is there are very few big guys walking around yet millions of people are shoving these shakes down, dont kid yourself please.Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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- Food contains more nutrients then a MRP.Originally posted by Zester
sorry , i ment : why don't you want to tell us why food is always better than MRP ?
- Food digests more slowly and won't spike your insulin levels the way a MRP will.
- Our bodies are designed to eat food, not shakes.
However, some people don't have an appetite or can't get to food after a workout for various reasons, so MRPs are very good at filling that gap. They're easy to transport, easy and quick to make and they digest very quickly.Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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tons of people write this stuff and most write out of their assholes.Originally posted by CET
Johnnie O. Here's another, Jay Cutler.
Don't need to do that, I write about this stuff for a living.
What's your point here? Sucking down a shake isn't going to turn me or anyone else into Ronnie Coleman, that's determined by genetics and how much gear you can afford. I'm not saying that, nor did I ever say that. I do think that a MRP immediately after a workout is important, because your body needs nutrients as quickly as possible while it is in an anabolic state. If you wait too long, that anabolic state will quickly turn into a catabolic state. No matter what you NEED to eat SOMETHING after a workout, and MRPs are quick, convenient, and contain most everything your body needs for a post workout recovery.
Please you got my point, real food is where its at all those let me sound proper articles are for babies.
And if you write this stuff youd know that gaining 5-8llbs of myscle a year is a huge amount if you are natrual
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there are some pros at my old gym.. they use MRP sometimes... but then they'll eat something like chicken and rice 20 minutes later.. and then stick their ass with some T... some GH in the tummy... maybe some insulin.. drink 20g creatine.... they do everything in excess!
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It depends on your genetics. My first year of hardcore training, I put on 35 lbs of lean muscle. I was and still am natural. Of course my gains have been much slower since. Most gains are made in the first year and the years following are simply minor improvements upon the original. Powerlifters make huge gains their first year and are lucky to make 10% gains the years following. The same is true for bodybuilders. The body is only capable of so much, otherwise we could train to do crazy shit, like lifting bulldozers.Originally posted by EscortBiz
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thank you for that reply.Originally posted by CET
- Food contains more nutrients then a MRP.
- Food digests more slowly and won't spike your insulin levels the way a MRP will.
- Our bodies are designed to eat food, not shakes.
However, some people don't have an appetite or can't get to food after a workout for various reasons, so MRPs are very good at filling that gap. They're easy to transport, easy and quick to make and they digest very quickly.
so in fact MRP are safe, right? eating 4 meals and a MRP a day is ok.Comment
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coolOriginally posted by CET
The human body can utilize, on average, 36 grams of protein towards muscle maintenance and repair in a 3 hour period.
I was talking about digestion though. Most people should be able to digest about 30g of whey protein in 1.5 hours but that's after getting used to it. Most people starting out complain of stomach cramps, gas and bloating if they try that.
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Certainly they're safe, they're just not as good as whole foods.Originally posted by Zester
thank you for that reply.
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is there some type of list of a type and amount of protein each food contains?Originally posted by gwilkins
You can only digest so much protein in a day.... How much do you think that is...
BTW, 6g of protein in a large white egg
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There are lots of sites. Try this and type in which food you want to know.. http://www.nutri-facts.com/Originally posted by Zester
is there some type of list of a type and amount of protein each food contains?
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go over to http://www.bulknutrition.com they are the best for all your bodybuilding needs.
I'd suggest VPX Sports Micellean MRP ( http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=283 ) it is very clean and all HQ nutritients.
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google will find everything for ya, really!Originally posted by Zester
is there some type of list of a type and amount of protein each food contains?
visit some bodybuilding forums for more info, they're usually very helpfull and have great advice
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Hit up www.allthewhey.com if you still looking for any protein with very cheap prices. Buy the faster digesting whey protein Isolate for after work out shakes and buy why protein concentrate for a slower digesting protein for any other time of the day.
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is whey a dairy product? ( i'm not being retarded )Comment
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2 scoops Beverly International Muscle Provider and Dextrose/Malto combo.
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Pros are the genetically elite. Their advice is not worth shit unless you are also elite (then you would not asking for their advice in the first place).Originally posted by EscortBiz
name one pro wtf are you talking about I sure hope you dont beleive those ads, a shake here and there yes but thats about it.
When you spend 250 - 800 bucks an hour to talk on the phone with pros like jay cutler, lee priest, ronnie colman etc. and get facts let me know.
Fact is there are very few big guys walking around yet millions of people are shoving these shakes down, dont kid yourself please.
Immediately after working out, you body wants nutrients fast, hence the shake. However, an hour or so after that, eat a protein-rich MEAL.Comment
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It's derived from milk.Originally posted by Zester
is whey a dairy product? ( i'm not being retarded )Comment
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you need about 1,000,000 MRP's to look like this guy DoggcrappOriginally posted by ...
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