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  • Probono
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 2731
    #101
    I think Domestic partnerships would be the best way for both homo and heterosexuals. Clear partnership agreements, no more messy divorces.

    Marriage as it is today sould be a religious union for those who care and a domestic partnership should be the civil arrangement.

    Keep god and divorce lawyers out unless you want to invite them in.

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      • johndoebob
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2004
        • 3405
        #102
        Originally posted by CET
        You've already admitted that you're full of shit.

        Thanks for the new line to add to my repetoir. Telling me to use "common sense" and to ignore scientific data is beautiful. It shows how little of an argument you really have.
        Common sense =

        Kids with same sex parents are very likely to get big problems in school and social surroundings.

        Also that it might at least be very confusing for them when they develop sexuality.

        Keep ignoring that.

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          • Dawgy
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 5856
            #103
            Originally posted by johndoebob
            Common sense =

            Kids with same sex parents are very likely to get big problems in school and social surroundings.

            Also that it might at least be very confusing for them when they develop sexuality.

            Keep ignoring that.
            WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BASING THAT ON?

            did a kid raised by gay parents shoot up columbine? did a kid raised by gay parents blow up the federal building in ok city?

            holy fuck

            you make sweeping generalizations based on nothing other than your own personal beliefs, and then scream "ignorant gay activist" at anyone who disagrees with you, and can PROVE with research & studies that YOURE WRONG

            omg this level of ignorance on this board has reached a new high.
            the revolution is coming.

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              • SL|M!
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 1480
                #104
                Originally posted by Probono
                Marriage as it is today sould be a religious union for those who care and a domestic partnership should be the civil arrangement.
                Agreed. Gays should respect the churches wishes of not allowing gay marriages. Want a civil union or some sort of contract to get the benefits, fine. They shouldnt impose themselves on the Church and their beliefs.

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                  • Dawgy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 5856
                    #105
                    Originally posted by SL|M!
                    Agreed. Gays should respect the churches wishes of not allowing gay marriages. Want a civil union or some sort of contract to get the benefits, fine. They shouldnt impose themselves on the Church and their beliefs.
                    the problem is, marriage is a legal arrangement as well... it provides different tax laws, workplace laws, etc, etc... i agree its a religious ceremony true, but its also a lot different legally than any civil union. until the govt changes that, there will not be any equal rights.
                    the revolution is coming.

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                      • SL|M!
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1480
                        #106
                        Originally posted by Dawgy
                        the problem is, marriage is a legal arrangement as well... it provides different tax laws, workplace laws, etc, etc... i agree its a religious ceremony true, but its also a lot different legally than any civil union. until the govt changes that, there will not be any equal rights.
                        Well the govt should then give the same rights for civil union. I dont think its that complicated. Homos want the same rights as married couples and RightWing freaks dont want homos to be 'married'. Give civil unions the same legal power as marriages, and everyone will be happy. Homos still wont be married but have that extra cash to buy the jumbo size lube at costco
                        Last edited by SL|M!; 10-27-2004, 01:12 AM.

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                          • Dawgy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 5856
                            #107
                            Originally posted by SL|M!
                            Well the govt should then give the same rights for civil union. I dont think its that complicated. Homos want the same rights as married couples and RightWing freaks dont want homos to be 'married'. Give civil unions the same legal power as marriages, and everyone will be happy. Homos still wont be married but have extra cash to buy lube at costco
                            lol basically yeah, thats all any of us want, equal rights on EVERYTHING, not just equal rights as the govt sees fit to selectively apply that particular part of the constitution.
                            the revolution is coming.

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                              • SL|M!
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1480
                                #108
                                Originally posted by Dawgy
                                lol basically yeah, thats all any of us want, equal rights on EVERYTHING, not just equal rights as the govt sees fit to selectively apply that particular part of the constitution.
                                btw, homos wasnt ment in a bad way, just faster to type!

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                                  • johndoebob
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 3405
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by Dawgy
                                    WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BASING THAT ON?

                                    did a kid raised by gay parents shoot up columbine? did a kid raised by gay parents blow up the federal building in ok city?

                                    holy fuck

                                    you make sweeping generalizations based on nothing other than your own personal beliefs, and then scream "ignorant gay activist" at anyone who disagrees with you, and can PROVE with research & studies that YOURE WRONG

                                    omg this level of ignorance on this board has reached a new high.
                                    Studies on pro gay sites aren't what I'd call independend.

                                    I've seen gay guys getting beaten up in school and commit suicide, in my opinion it's very likely to happen to those who have same sex parents too, there aren't too much places where everybody is that tollerant.

                                    Exodus Asia Pacific chairman John Meteyard said he was concerned by a lack of research on the long-term effects of growing up with gay parents.

                                    ?The studies that are done so far are biased research involving only a few children over short periods of time,? he said.

                                    ?We will not support gay adoption until proper research is done.?
                                    From an adoption site:

                                    Research studies, often conducted by individuals or organizations with a vested
                                    interest in the outcome, are contradictory. Studies linked to conservative
                                    political and religious groups show negative effects on children of gay and
                                    lesbian parents; while, studies which support homosexual parenting are said to
                                    reflect the bias of those who are themselves gay or who support gay rights.

                                    Clearly, what are needed are definitive studies that would follow larger
                                    numbers of children over a long period of time. That research, when completed,
                                    will provide more definitive information for the debate.
                                    Anyway, this whole discussion doesn't seem to lead to anything.
                                    Last edited by johndoebob; 10-27-2004, 01:25 AM.

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                                      • SpikeHeel
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 1531
                                        #110
                                        good idea juicy!! let them do it!

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                                          • mardigras
                                            Bon temps!
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 14194
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by CET
                                            Then why not call it marriage? Having something that's just like marriage, but called something else smacks of "seperate but equal", IMHO.
                                            Separate but equal is 100% better than nothing, especially since more than half of the country is against calling it marriage and most states if left with control would never allow it.
                                            .

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                                              • Probono
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 2731
                                                #112
                                                Why would any sane person want to get married? The French have the right idea, you get married to have children, there is no other reason!

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                                                  • fris
                                                    I have to go potty
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 56016
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                    I say let them do it , who gives a fuck let em be happy.
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                                                      • cocky
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 2044
                                                        #114
                                                        why shouldn't they be able to suffer like we have??
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                                                          • juicylinks
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 122992
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by fris
                                                            i been married to a guy for 3 years now

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                                                              • Centurion
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 6033
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                                Studies on pro gay sites aren't what I'd call independend.

                                                                I've seen gay guys getting beaten up in school and commit suicide, in my opinion it's very likely to happen to those who have same sex parents too, there aren't too much places where everybody is that tollerant.



                                                                From an adoption site:



                                                                Anyway, this whole discussion doesn't seem to lead to anything.
                                                                You are something else. You didn't even acknowledge the report from the ACLU (hardly a "gay" site) and then post something from an "adoption site"..but obviously weren't too keen to post the link for everyone take a look at for ourselves!

                                                                Check this out and REFUTE THEIR INFO:http://archive.aclu.org/issues/gay/parent.html

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                                                                  • Lykos
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 31027
                                                                    #117
                                                                    I don't have anything against them,it is up to them to do what they need and want

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                                                                      • Nima
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 2192
                                                                        #118
                                                                        I agree

                                                                        as long as it isn't hurting anybody let them do what they want

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