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  • TDF
    Triple OG nigga on GFY
    • Mar 2002
    • 27296

    #51
    50 bad days...
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    • Furious_Male
      Doing the grind since 99
      • Oct 2003
      • 16884

      #52
      Originally posted by Zprogramz
      Our sales are up and traffic we are sending elsewhere is converting the same as always. A few weeks afgo we had a slow week and don;t kn ow why but everything is usually very consistent. As far as scrubbing variations, we only use our own merchant accounts and usually on send traffic to programs with a merchant account as as their primary such as Dating Gold, Eroticy, AFF, LFP and a few others lately.
      I noticed Dating Gold doesn't seem to be affected by the slumps I see with other sponsors. I can always count on them to produce a +ROI for me.

      What other programs use there own merchant accounts. I am seriously thinking about making some huge changes to my existing line up of sponsors.
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      • andrej_NDC
        Registered User
        • May 2004
        • 7760

        #53
        Originally posted by Furious_Male
        What other programs use there own merchant accounts. I am seriously thinking about making some huge changes to my existing line up of sponsors.
        no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.

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        • Eservices2k3
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2003
          • 361

          #54
          I send to sponsors that the majority of you have never even heard of. They all have their own merchant accounts, and I can't remember the last time I uttered the word "scrub". Stability is the least of my concerns.

          I strongly suggest you all look into something similar.
          "Every man think that his burden is the heaviest"
          "Whosoever diggeth the pit, shall fall in it"
          -Bob Marley

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          • Eservices2k3
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2003
            • 361

            #55
            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
            no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.
            You have a point, but the truth of the matter is that scrubbing DOES exist and it's a matter of how hard.

            If you find the right sponsors with their own merchant account and establish a solid relationship, you will become accustomed to pretty consistent conversions. I speak from experience.
            "Every man think that his burden is the heaviest"
            "Whosoever diggeth the pit, shall fall in it"
            -Bob Marley

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            • Drake
              Hello world!
              • Mar 2003
              • 12508

              #56
              Time to put the kibosh on bad sales

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              • andrej_NDC
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 7760

                #57
                Originally posted by Eservices2k3
                You have a point, but the truth of the matter is that scrubbing DOES exist and it's a matter of how hard.
                scrubbing does exist, but scrubbing doesnt mean, that some days are 50% worse than the other ones. When people dont want to sign-up, whatever the reason might be, they wont, no matter who does the billing for the site, they just wont.

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                • Furious_Male
                  Doing the grind since 99
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 16884

                  #58
                  Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                  no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.
                  No offense taken. I am simply looking at other avenues to send my traffic to. You never know what might "click" with your traffic.
                  Living in Virtual Reality
                  Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                  • andrej_NDC
                    Registered User
                    • May 2004
                    • 7760

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Furious_Male
                    No offense taken. I am simply looking at other avenues to send my traffic to. You never know what might "click" with your traffic.
                    sure, testing different sponsors is the key, but dont set the priorities on things like billing, etc...just look for sites with good design, good marketing, good content, thats what matters

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                    • slapass
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 14625

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Furious_Male
                      You are not alone. I am comparing historical stats and this week has been bad. Not the worst I have ever seen but bad.

                      Certain sponsors are not converting at all (mostly paycom processed). CCbill processed sites are just starting to come around a bit the past couple of days.

                      Im not one to blame someone or anything but I like to speculate there is some heavy scrub going on right now on the paycom side of things.
                      I would agree with this 100%.

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                      • Xplicit
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2003
                        • 3558

                        #61
                        I had a great month. Some nice TCG reality site conversions, and AAC is rockin it as always (see sig).

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                        • Eservices2k3
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 361

                          #62
                          Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                          scrubbing does exist, but scrubbing doesnt mean, that some days are 50% worse than the other ones. When people dont want to sign-up, whatever the reason might be, they wont, no matter who does the billing for the site, they just wont.
                          In addition to having their own merchant account, some sponsors I use also use paycom or ccbill. You'd be amazed if you saw the difference in sales from identical sites, and identical traffic....especially this past week. I shit you not, it is in fact 50% WORSE.
                          "Every man think that his burden is the heaviest"
                          "Whosoever diggeth the pit, shall fall in it"
                          -Bob Marley

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                          • Zprogramz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 1360

                            #63
                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                            no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.
                            Bullshit! When Netbilling had some downtime last week, the main sponsor that we send exit traffic to, switched to CCbill for several hours and during that time we saw a 30% decrease in signups.

                            Z

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                            • Forkbeard
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 2236

                              #64
                              In every thread like this, there's a few assholes who respond with "I'm having my best week ever." This time, it's my turn to be one of those assholes.

                              Yup, the last two weeks have been my highest-grossing weeks in the biz.

                              I'll admit that CCbill sales are down a bit, though.
                              Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

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                              • andrej_NDC
                                Registered User
                                • May 2004
                                • 7760

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                Bullshit! When Netbilling had some downtime last week, the main sponsor that we send exit traffic to, switched to CCbill for several hours and during that time we saw a 30% decrease in signups.

                                Z
                                we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

                                btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.

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                                • Eservices2k3
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 361

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                  we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

                                  btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.
                                  I used to do tests like this frequently with sponsors. I send the same traffic to the same site, only difference is 1 is their merchant account, and the other is a 3rd party processor. I'd do tests for 1-2 weeks at a time...and the winner, every time, is my sponsor's merchant account. Usually it's not even close.

                                  At the same time, I used to use some sponsors who had merchant accounts that performed the same as their 3rd party processor. Pick and choose your sponsors wisely and the difference is incredible.
                                  "Every man think that his burden is the heaviest"
                                  "Whosoever diggeth the pit, shall fall in it"
                                  -Bob Marley

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                                  • nico-t
                                    emperor of my world
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 29901

                                    #67
                                    on the contrary, i think this month is my best month ever

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                                    • QuaWee
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 5791

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by KyleHoppes
                                      Glad I got out when I did!
                                      please kill yourself
                                      i luv mainstream

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                                      • slapass
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 14625

                                        #69
                                        We all could just admit that ccbill has been scrubbing hard all month and lightened up this week a little and Paycom was scrubbing as hard as hell for the whole week.

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                                        • abcdwebkate
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 29

                                          #70
                                          End of the month sales tend to be weaker than sales beginning of the month. How were sales at the beginning of October?
                                          SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                          • Lee
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 2977

                                            #71
                                            Beginning of the month was fine but this past week has been a national disgrace. I had my worst day in over 2 years yesterday which really summed it up.

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                                            • Zprogramz
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 1360

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                              we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

                                              btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.
                                              It is just an example. We run our own merchant accounts and use third party as secondary and sometimes run tests with 3rd party as primary and the results are ALWAYS the same. I know what I am talking about.

                                              Z

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                                              • Furious_Male
                                                Doing the grind since 99
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 16884

                                                #73
                                                Well it can be debated but I still would like to try some sites that have there own merchant accounts.
                                                Living in Virtual Reality
                                                Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                                • xclusive
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 35218

                                                  #74
                                                  Been a very slow few weeks for me

                                                  I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                  • Zprogramz
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 1360

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                    Well it can be debated but I still would like to try some sites that have there own merchant accounts.
                                                    Try Fetishcash, Dating Gold, AFF, Eroticy, Sammysmack, Scorecash. They all do well for us and have their own merchant accounts.

                                                    Z

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                                                    • Zprogramz
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 1360

                                                      #76
                                                      oh - wasteland does well for us too

                                                      Z

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                                                      • RogerV
                                                        Banned!
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 12591

                                                        #77
                                                        Your promoting the wrong sponsors LOL

                                                        I had the best week ever No BS

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                                                        • vvq
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 2732

                                                          #78
                                                          Send Traffic Gigolos some traffic.

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                                                          • tony299
                                                            lurker
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 57021

                                                            #79
                                                            The past two months have been weak, when in past years this is when the rise starts. I think gas prices have hurt people and regardless of what the pundits tell you the economy isnt doing that great and the middle class is hurting and thats who buys our wares.

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                                                            • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 4325

                                                              #80
                                                              The last couple of days have picked up but over all my last 2 weeks have been the worst in a couple of years at 1:800. I'm usually 1:350 but I thought it was just me being lazy since I had shoulder surgery and haven't been working for the past 3 weeks. I'm sorta glad to hear it's not just me

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                                                              • teomaxxx
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 2737

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Furious_Male

                                                                Certain sponsors are not converting at all (mostly paycom processed). CCbill processed sites are just starting to come around a bit the past couple of days.

                                                                Im not one to blame someone or anything but I like to speculate there is some heavy scrub going on right now on the paycom side of things.
                                                                exactly same here, while having great conversions with ccbill, paycom is really bad. i lost this month in paid spots with sponsors using paycom around 1k already, this is definately worst month for me.

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                                                                • bigdog
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 6964

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by teomaxxx
                                                                  exactly same here, while having great conversions with ccbill, paycom is really bad. i lost this month in paid spots with sponsors using paycom around 1k already, this is definately worst month for me.
                                                                  damn first time i ever heard somoene is really doing worst with paycom vs ccbill

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                                                                  • teomaxxx
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 2737

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                    damn first time i ever heard somoene is really doing worst with paycom vs ccbill
                                                                    yes, paycom was always better for me.

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                                                                    • Jakke PNG
                                                                      ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 20306

                                                                      #84
                                                                      July good
                                                                      august better
                                                                      september worse than august
                                                                      october worse than july

                                                                      last week was the best in october for me though.
                                                                      ..and I'm off.

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                                                                      • phonesex
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                        • 3437

                                                                        #85
                                                                        see sig and makes some money

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                                                                        • selena
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 7995

                                                                          #86
                                                                          My personal stuff has picked up the last week or so. Mid-October I was starting to freak.
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                                                                          • Decadawn
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 1286

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Worst month here too..

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                                                                            • Midget
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 161

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                              Your promoting the wrong sponsors LOL

                                                                              I had the best week ever No BS

                                                                              God you are shameless

                                                                              That light you see at the end of the tunnel is a freight-train coming your way...

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                                                                              • Theo
                                                                                HAL 9000
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 34515

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                                Try Fetishcash, Dating Gold, AFF, Eroticy, Sammysmack, Scorecash. They all do well for us and have their own merchant accounts.

                                                                                Z

                                                                                what's your paysite? you never reply on this question and makes me wonder.

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                                                                                • strobi
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 7383

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Well the strange thing is, I did my best month yet since the last 5 months. My ccbill is kinda bad around 1:900 (sending around 15K/day) thought but overal I'm doing extremely well.

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                                                                                  • Ace-wtf
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                                    • 2983

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    hope you guys all do better next month

                                                                                    Don't miss out on the new HYPE!!!
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                                                                                    • justsexxx
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 13723

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Funny how a "merchant" acount gives 30% better results, as some persons say. As sponsor, we can see the DENIALS. Let's say ALL denials are approved at your own merchant account provider. Well I can tell you. Our denials are not even CLOSE to 30%.
                                                                                      Questions?

                                                                                      ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                                      • body
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 5016

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Eservices2k3
                                                                                        I used to do tests like this frequently with sponsors. I send the same traffic to the same site, only difference is 1 is their merchant account, and the other is a 3rd party processor. I'd do tests for 1-2 weeks at a time...and the winner, every time, is my sponsor's merchant account. Usually it's not even close.

                                                                                        At the same time, I used to use some sponsors who had merchant accounts that performed the same as their 3rd party processor. Pick and choose your sponsors wisely and the difference is incredible.

                                                                                        the same traffic? You mean the same traffic? No wonder that they join the merchant account only, why should they join with the 3rd party processor again? ;)
                                                                                        Last edited by body; 10-31-2005, 05:34 AM.
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                                                                                        • slapass
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 14625

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                          Funny how a "merchant" acount gives 30% better results, as some persons say. As sponsor, we can see the DENIALS. Let's say ALL denials are approved at your own merchant account provider. Well I can tell you. Our denials are not even CLOSE to 30%.
                                                                                          Do you ever wonder what % of traffic bails out when a different URL pop-ups to collect the info and the money? I always thought this was a flaw in the way our current system works.

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                                                                                          • Doctor Dre
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 51692

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Last month has been shitty for everyone

                                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=1#post8527638
                                                                                            Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                            I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                            • ronaldo
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 5475

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              First part of the month was close to my best for the year, but last week was absolutely horrible.

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                                                                                              • Furious_Male
                                                                                                Doing the grind since 99
                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                • 16884

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                                                Try Fetishcash, Dating Gold, AFF, Eroticy, Sammysmack, Scorecash. They all do well for us and have their own merchant accounts.

                                                                                                Z
                                                                                                thank you..
                                                                                                Living in Virtual Reality
                                                                                                Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                                                                                • justsexxx
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 13723

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                  Do you ever wonder what % of traffic bails out when a different URL pop-ups to collect the info and the money? I always thought this was a flaw in the way our current system works.
                                                                                                  What do you mean? We operate our own paysite...
                                                                                                  Questions?

                                                                                                  ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Last week was definitely slow on the content stores.

                                                                                                    Affiliates don't sell and then they don't buy, finf one follows the other.



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                                                                                                    • RogerV
                                                                                                      Banned!
                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                      • 12591

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Midget
                                                                                                      God you are shameless
                                                                                                      I'm just trying to help LOL do people care NO! they just bitch and continue to promote sites and sponsors that dont convert.

                                                                                                      Dont be lazy and try us out.. find out for yourself promote someone who has more experience in running paysites then 99% of the programs out there

                                                                                                      Its not rocket sience to figure out why we convert its 9 years of experience


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