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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #1

    What's the secret to consistently winning in Poker?

    I go through streaks winning lots of hands then losing.

    Any good strategies?

    LOL and I just won a $160 in a hand while I'm typing this.

    hahaha that's funny.
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  • crockett
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    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #2
    money and having enough to keep playing
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    • Varius
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2004
      • 6890

      #3
      Originally posted by KRL
      I go through streaks winning lots of hands then losing.

      Any good strategies?

      LOL and I just won a $160 in a hand while I'm typing this.

      hahaha that's funny.
      Where are you playing at ?

      I think the secret is patience.....wait for those good pocket cards. Also don't be afraid to fold even if you are in, you will lose less than calling until the end and losing double.

      I'm also starting to see a pattern, that if I start winning a few hands in a row at a table, its best to leave and sit down at a fresh table. Otherwise I start losing......
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      • irishfury
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 2611

        #4
        play the odds...Know your outs and how many you have and compare them to what others could have based on the flop....and also watch the others betting habits...
        Trust no one there all snakes

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        • MrIzzz
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          • Sep 2003
          • 22923

          #5
          you need to know when and how to bully the rest of the table


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          • abyss_al
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            • Oct 2003
            • 15605

            #6
            playing lots of hands, getting to know the opponents and by playing alot of hands, its more difficult for someone to read your hand... setup a preset amount, when you bet big, dont change that amount.. change tells the opponent something about ur hand
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            • Varius
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2004
              • 6890

              #7
              Originally posted by irishfury
              play the odds...Know your outs and how many you have and compare them to what others could have based on the flop....and also watch the others betting habits...
              Notes on others can help you win greatly....earlier at a 10/20 table, I noticed one guy who others kept folding to when he raised too much, and I beat him twice when I called him and he had nothing. The following few hands I kept raising him and beat him with a pair of 5s, then a pair of 9s. Then he left the table hehe....

              Also those I see fold a lot on the pocket cards, or right after the flop, I note as 'not likely to be bluffing'.
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              • Paparazzi
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                • Mar 2002
                • 3488

                #8
                - patience
                - calculating odds
                - amount of money at the table
                - table position
                - know your opponents

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                • irishfury
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2611

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Varius
                  Notes on others can help you win greatly....earlier at a 10/20 table, I noticed one guy who others kept folding to when he raised too much, and I beat him twice when I called him and he had nothing. The following few hands I kept raising him and beat him with a pair of 5s, then a pair of 9s. Then he left the table hehe....

                  Also those I see fold a lot on the pocket cards, or right after the flop, I note as 'not likely to be bluffing'.
                  exactly you will catch the people that will raise a hefty amount on the flop and if you call check on the turn alot of the times where trying to bluff the pot at first then get nervous that's when I push them for that money cause they hate losing what they already have in the pot.
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                  • stocktrader23
                    Let's do some business.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 18781

                    #10
                    If you have actually studied the numbers on poker already the only other thing you need is hours and hours on the tables to tweak your skills.

                    I've told people some easy to remember strategy that let them win consistently but to teach them to rock would be an almost full time undertaking. There are so many situations that can come up and so many ways to go about it.

                    You have a business mind though, you should pick up quick. It was like learning to tie my shoes.


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                    • Varius
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 6890

                      #11
                      Originally posted by irishfury
                      exactly you will catch the people that will raise a hefty amount on the flop and if you call check on the turn alot of the times where trying to bluff the pot at first then get nervous that's when I push them for that money cause they hate losing what they already have in the pot.
                      When I first started playing, once it was after the flop and I wasn't hitting what I needed, say for a straight or a flush, I used to keep calling until the end anyways since I had some money in I didn't want to lose.

                      Big mistake. Now I've learnt it's better to take half the loss
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                      • Spunky
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                        • Jun 2002
                        • 133978

                        #12
                        Go for broke..go all in and bluff them

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                        • warlock5
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2808

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Varius
                          I'm also starting to see a pattern, that if I start winning a few hands in a row at a table, its best to leave and sit down at a fresh table. Otherwise I start losing......
                          Thats usually my strategy

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                          • brizzad
                            holla
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 11769

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Varius

                            I'm also starting to see a pattern, that if I start winning a few hands in a row at a table, its best to leave and sit down at a fresh table. Otherwise I start losing......

                            that's a pretty ignorant strategy considering its based on one deck that is shuffled every hand - the probability will always be the same

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                            • Varius
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                              • Jun 2004
                              • 6890

                              #15
                              Originally posted by brizzad
                              that's a pretty ignorant strategy considering its based on one deck that is shuffled every hand - the probability will always be the same
                              That may be true in real-life poker, but I assumed this thread was about online poker.

                              In which case there is a potential added factor here....there *could* be code whereby a player winning a lot starts to get worse pockets, or other implications so that other players stay happy and keep playing.

                              While I have no evidence of this, it is indeed possible and if you were to deny the possibility, who would be the ignorant one ?
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                              • stocktrader23
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 18781

                                #16
                                1 deck is a very limited sample. Patterns are everywhere because of the small number of possibilities.

                                And online poker uses a constant shuffle.


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                                • stocktrader23
                                  Let's do some business.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 18781

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Varius
                                  That may be true in real-life poker, but I assumed this thread was about online poker.

                                  In which case there is a potential added factor here....there *could* be code whereby a player winning a lot starts to get worse pockets, or other implications so that other players stay happy and keep playing.

                                  While I have no evidence of this, it is indeed possible and if you were to deny the possibility, who would be the ignorant one ?
                                  No, I would say it would be ignorant to assume that anybody would bother to code something that tracks thousands of users and adjusts starting cards for every person on the table simply because one has won more than the other. This is especially true since the casino makes money on everybody regardless of if they win or lose. The undertaking that would be involved is so enourmous it would be rediculous to even consider it.


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                                  • SomeCreep
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 26118

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                    I go through streaks winning lots of hands then losing.

                                    Any good strategies?

                                    LOL and I just won a $160 in a hand while I'm typing this.

                                    hahaha that's funny.
                                    It is impossible to consistently win when you gamble. There will come times when you play your hand perfectly and still lose.

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                                    • KRL
                                      Entrepreneur
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 31429

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                      If you have actually studied the numbers on poker already the only other thing you need is hours and hours on the tables to tweak your skills.

                                      I've told people some easy to remember strategy that let them win consistently but to teach them to rock would be an almost full time undertaking. There are so many situations that can come up and so many ways to go about it.

                                      You have a business mind though, you should pick up quick. It was like learning to tie my shoes.
                                      I've always been a pretty decent player and fairly lucky, but I get these streaks with hands that look good to go but then the cards turn sour.
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                                      • Varius
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                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 6890

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                        No, I would say it would be ignorant to assume that anybody would bother to code something that tracks thousands of users and adjusts starting cards for every person on the table simply because one has won more than the other. This is especially true since the casino makes money on everybody regardless of if they win or lose. The undertaking that would be involved is so enourmous it would be rediculous to even consider it.
                                        Well, if sharks keep turning off the casual player, then player loss does hurt the poker company's bottom line

                                        Besides, after the software is done, what do their programmers really have to do with their time besides maintaining it?
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                                        • KRL
                                          Entrepreneur
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 31429

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                          It is impossible to consistently win when you gamble. There will come times when you play your hand perfectly and still lose.
                                          That's it. Playing well but getting outplayed by someone with just a hand one notch up.
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                                          • stocktrader23
                                            Let's do some business.
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 18781

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                            I've always been a pretty decent player and fairly lucky, but I get these streaks with hands that look good to go but then the cards turn sour.
                                            It happens to everyone and nothing you can do. Statistics. The odds of things happening in poker aren't really uncommon when you look at them in depth.


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                                            • KRL
                                              Entrepreneur
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 31429

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Varius
                                              That may be true in real-life poker, but I assumed this thread was about online poker.

                                              In which case there is a potential added factor here....there *could* be code whereby a player winning a lot starts to get worse pockets, or other implications so that other players stay happy and keep playing.

                                              While I have no evidence of this, it is indeed possible and if you were to deny the possibility, who would be the ignorant one ?
                                              hmmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it. It wouldn't be too hard to code that either.
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                                              • Thurbs
                                                The Thrilla in Manila
                                                • Sep 2004
                                                • 4785

                                                #24
                                                heh - i wrote an ebook for people using either PartyPoker / Empire Poker. its more about the patterns I've observed over months of play etc. Its a pretty definative guide to hand tilting, shaved odds, etc.

                                                let me know. I'm a daytrader with a business degree specializing in Stats so I'm not scribbling down the common knowledge.

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                                                • irishfury
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 2611

                                                  #25
                                                  It's not about winning hand consitenly it's playing the hands with the best odds for you to win. Many nights you only win a few hands but if you play right you will make lots of money off those hands.
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                                                  • stocktrader23
                                                    Let's do some business.
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 18781

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Varius
                                                    Well, if sharks keep turning off the casual player, then player loss does hurt the poker company's bottom line

                                                    Besides, after the software is done, what do their programmers really have to do with their time besides maintaining it?
                                                    The software would be more enourmous than you are considering. Casual players always lose, you don't see the live casinos struggling because of it.


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                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 18781

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thurbs
                                                      heh - i wrote an ebook for people using either PartyPoker / Empire Poker. its more about the patterns I've observed over months of play etc. Its a pretty definative guide to hand tilting, shaved odds, etc.

                                                      let me know. I'm a daytrader with a business degree specializing in Stats so I'm not scribbling down the common knowledge.
                                                      This is what I'm talking about. You took a statistics sample from a tiny number of hands and wrote a scam ebook about it?

                                                      Pardon me for cracking up at this.

                                                      Next time you are investigating party poker pay real close attention to the fact that the cards are pulled on the fly using RNG which means there are no patterns that shouldn't be there. The deck is constantly shuffled so the odds are always exact.

                                                      Funny thing is everyone I talk to that have "figured out the party poker patterns" are selling ebooks instead of living in the Bahamas on the millions of dollars they've made using their own strategy.


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                                                      • Varius
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                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 6890

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                        Funny thing is everyone I talk to that have "figured out the party poker patterns" are selling ebooks instead of living in the Bahamas on the millions of dollars they've made using their own strategy.
                                                        I think you have a point there. Everytime I see someone selling an ebook or book or videotape on how to win, or how to get rich.....if they simply practiced what they preached they wouldn't need to work at selling their 'guide'.

                                                        I admit that many people do buy these things and thus the sellers do become rich....but rarely is it from what they are actually writing about

                                                        As for those who only do it because they became so rich and just want to help others like themselves.......why not give it away for free if you really want to be so helpful ?
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                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 18781

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Varius
                                                          I think you have a point there. Everytime I see someone selling an ebook or book or videotape on how to win, or how to get rich.....if they simply practiced what they preached they wouldn't need to work at selling their 'guide'.

                                                          I admit that many people do buy these things and thus the sellers do become rich....but rarely is it from what they are actually writing about

                                                          As for those who only do it because they became so rich and just want to help others like themselves.......why not give it away for free if you really want to be so helpful ?
                                                          It's the truth. They run around the poker forums telling you of all these patterns they discovered too. The human mind tries to find patterns in everything and they do exist. Unfortunately they are completely random. If you look at the odds of each situation that they talk about on party poker etc. the odds of it happening are usually equal to how many times their pattern shows up in a given time. Sad.


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                                                          • Sly
                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31379

                                                            #30
                                                            I play very tight. When I start to stray I usually end up losing. Problem with playing as tight as I do is it takes several hours to get ahead, but the final result is the same, winning. Every poker night we have here at my place I usually do good as long as I play tight, but it takes a 5-6 hour night to win anything decent.

                                                            I don't know if this is common or not, I need to get more play time in for sure before the Vegas show.
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                                                            • stocktrader23
                                                              Let's do some business.
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 18781

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                              I play very tight. When I start to stray I usually end up losing. Problem with playing as tight as I do is it takes several hours to get ahead, but the final result is the same, winning. Every poker night we have here at my place I usually do good as long as I play tight, but it takes a 5-6 hour night to win anything decent.

                                                              I don't know if this is common or not, I need to get more play time in for sure before the Vegas show.
                                                              100 ways to win and 10000000 ways to lose. You can play "loose" and win but it's an entirely new set of skills to learn.


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                                                              "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                                              • KRL
                                                                Entrepreneur
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 31429

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by thurbs
                                                                heh - i wrote an ebook for people using either PartyPoker / Empire Poker. its more about the patterns I've observed over months of play etc. Its a pretty definative guide to hand tilting, shaved odds, etc.

                                                                let me know. I'm a daytrader with a business degree specializing in Stats so I'm not scribbling down the common knowledge.
                                                                Got a link for some excerpts to read?

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                                                                • Gynecologist
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                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                  • 2184

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Varius
                                                                  Where are you playing at ?

                                                                  I think the secret is patience.....wait for those good pocket cards. Also don't be afraid to fold even if you are in, you will lose less than calling until the end and losing double.

                                                                  I'm also starting to see a pattern, that if I start winning a few hands in a row at a table, its best to leave and sit down at a fresh table. Otherwise I start losing......

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                                                                  • Holly
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 10017

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Only play with people who have Down Syndrome.
                                                                    Last edited by Holly; 10-24-2004, 09:44 PM.
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                                                                    • twistyneck
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 4660

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                      I go through streaks winning lots of hands then losing.

                                                                      Any good strategies?

                                                                      LOL and I just won a $160 in a hand while I'm typing this.

                                                                      hahaha that's funny.
                                                                      I'm turning you in for illegal gambling.

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                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                        making it rain
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 22363

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Varius
                                                                        When I first started playing, once it was after the flop and I wasn't hitting what I needed, say for a straight or a flush, I used to keep calling until the end anyways since I had some money in I didn't want to lose.

                                                                        Big mistake. Now I've learnt it's better to take half the loss
                                                                        There's usually 10 people give or take at the table... Meaning you should statistically have a winning hand 1/10 times. This means you'll have 9 chances to minimize loss, and only 1 chance to maximize your win. Concentrate on minimizing loss first.

                                                                        At least that's what I do, and the only time I actually lose is when I stray from this.

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                                                                        • xclusive
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                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 35218

                                                                          #37
                                                                          The secret is having the best cards and the timing on when to raise. The best thing to do is keep playing and learn through experiance...

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                                                                          • Varius
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                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 6890

                                                                            #38
                                                                            On a side note, I'm getting quite good at check-raising
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                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 41470

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Holly
                                                                              Only play with people who have Down Syndrome.
                                                                              some of them are good at online poker..

                                                                              takes them longer to learn - but once they GET something - LOOK OUT
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                                                                              • Chris
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                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 27880

                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • SpaceAce
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                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 6493

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                  100 ways to win and 10000000 ways to lose. You can play "loose" and win but it's an entirely new set of skills to learn.
                                                                                  This is mostly true in no limit and short-handed play, though. Not many people win consistently playing loose at full ring limit tables unless the games are very juicy. I know you know that, but other people in this thread may not.

                                                                                  I think the biggest part of being a consistent winner in poker is learning to fold at the correct times. This doesn't mean folding a lot, but folding when it is correct to do so. 99% of low limit (and a nice percentage of mid- and high-limit) players simply blow off too many chips by chasing too much. It doesn't help when your pre-flop card selection sucks, either. You simply cannot play A6 under the gun and expect to come out ahead in the long run.

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