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  • macroguru
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 260
    #1

    Choker's Traffic

    I don't post often around here, just lurk mainly, quite a few interesting threads going on and such.

    BUT, anyone buy his traffic? I am building up traffic for my TGP (http://www.hotnwildteens.com/home.shtml) and I tried it. VERY POTENT.

    I know I am not one of the big guys out there, but my TGP is trading and doing well for only being alive for 3 months.

    Sales and bookmarkers increased for me, so for the thread asking about how to increase bookmarkers to their TGP, here is one for you.

    Also, for the others out there, hit him up, he is great to work with, and runs a tight ship. Very Professional.

    So for those of you who have purchased his traffic, has it been this positive for you as well?
    MacroGuru

    Give Your Surfers Some Portable Strippers - Pocket Strippers
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    • Kat - Fast
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2001
      • 2303
      #2
      Ya - it pays for itself

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        • gothweb
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 8849
          #3
          I was looking into his traffic, but didn't go with it. My sites do not qualify, for a number of reasons within his rules. Mostly, because they are paysites, and I use exit consoles. Oh well.
          Last edited by gothweb; 08-11-2002, 08:47 AM.

          Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes.
          Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money.
          MojoHost: Still the best.

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            • Pipecrew
              Master of Gfy.com
              • Feb 2002
              • 14888
              #4
              Originally posted by macroguru
              I don't post often around here, just lurk mainly, quite a few interesting threads going on and such.

              BUT, anyone buy his traffic? I am building up traffic for my TGP (http://www.hotnwildteens.com/home.shtml) and I tried it. VERY POTENT.

              I know I am not one of the big guys out there, but my TGP is trading and doing well for only being alive for 3 months.

              Sales and bookmarkers increased for me, so for the thread asking about how to increase bookmarkers to their TGP, here is one for you.

              Also, for the others out there, hit him up, he is great to work with, and runs a tight ship. Very Professional.

              So for those of you who have purchased his traffic, has it been this positive for you as well?
              is this choker spam? i hope sales arent slowing down

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                • macroguru
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 260
                  #5
                  Actually it's not,

                  I one, tout things that have been a positive experience for me that others may benefit, and two, will be purchasing more, and that is where my second point steps in. I wanted to know if it boils down to me getting lucky, or if his traffic is solid across the board.

                  Macro
                  MacroGuru

                  Give Your Surfers Some Portable Strippers - Pocket Strippers

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                    • Theo
                      HAL 9000
                      • May 2001
                      • 34515
                      #6
                      hahahaha when i read the topic i knew pipecrew would be here too :-)

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                        • Pipecrew
                          Master of Gfy.com
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 14888
                          #7
                          Originally posted by macroguru
                          Actually it's not,

                          I one, tout things that have been a positive experience for me that others may benefit, and two, will be purchasing more, and that is where my second point steps in. I wanted to know if it boils down to me getting lucky, or if his traffic is solid across the board.

                          Macro
                          if I am not mistaken I think he has his own board, go nuts and purchase more! make sure its not coming from the same Ip

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                            • Lane
                              Will code for food...
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 8496
                              #8
                              i recommend him too

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                                • Choker
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 9024
                                  #9
                                  OMG, my icq is going crazy. Seems nobody likes what you are saying about me Pipecrew. BTW, thanks to all your negative remarks about me you have made over the last few months Pipecrew. Thanks to you I am selling over 300k clicked uniques a day now. Matter of fact, I just put a "Fuck Pipecrew" traffic sale together. Until further notice, anyone who can find Pipecrews icq number and tell him what a fuckhead he is, can get Traffic from me for $5 per k, normal price is $6.
                                  Post the icq mesages to him in this thread for this one time discount.
                                  ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                  Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                  The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                  Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                  http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                    • d0odx
                                      Registered User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 74
                                      #10
                                      i only buy traffic from choker.

                                      Besides the fact that his traffic has amazing quality, he is a nice guy.

                                      Like marcoguru said,
                                      I one, tout things that have been a positive experience for me
                                      i feel the same way, choker is a very professional individual, his system of running things is very "tight" as marcoguru said as well.

                                      Another thing that comes to mind is how long lasting the traffic is. I can buy traffic, then for a long period of time after the traffic has run out, my stats continue to stay HIGH.

                                      This is important to me, and it shoudl be to you all.


                                      Now Pipecrew, i have tried to goto your site about 4 times in the past 20 minutes and only once has it come up.

                                      When your site is running correctly, maybe you should purchase some traffic from choker and make some money instead of just flaming him and talking shit??

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                                        • d0odx
                                          Registered User
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 74
                                          #11
                                          I just put a "Fuck Pipecrew" traffic sale together.
                                          LOL!

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                                            • Gary
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 6110
                                              #12
                                              Uhhhhh Pipecrew, whats your ICQ# i got some very important business to discuss with you.

                                              Up to 35$ per join...!

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                                                • qdtobbe
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                  • 1688
                                                  #13
                                                  Yes i have heard great things about Choker`s Traffic !
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                                                    • Choker
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 9024
                                                      #14
                                                      ok, here it is, The "Fuck Pipecrew" sale. This is for real and prices may never be this low again.

                                                      http://www.chickentraffic.com/traffic/fuckpipecrew.htm
                                                      ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                      Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                      The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                      Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                      http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                        • StupidNewbie
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                          • 864
                                                          #15
                                                          it looks like this thread can go up on choker's site for a good reputation. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND HIS TRAFFIC.

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                                                            • Pipecrew
                                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 14888
                                                              #16
                                                              funny.........


                                                              407-382-5054

                                                              My visitors just love free phone sex numbers...... and I think i might pull a labret and share your address with a bunch of gay and transvestite ezines..... they love this sorta stuff


                                                              K, Tom?

                                                              400k of people each day seeing that phonenumber as a One Time Free Phone Sex line and bamn, I am sure you will atleast get 50 calls maybee i will make it even more interesting and offer people on my sites free memberships to there favorite sites if they call 30 times in one day, Dont play with me

                                                              I update in 2 hours, check it out

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                                                                • Choker
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 9024
                                                                  #17
                                                                  No, Don't fuck with me Pipecrew, You have been warned before. That is old number anyway dumbass. This is your LAST WARNING.
                                                                  ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                  Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                  The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                  Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                  http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                    • Pipecrew
                                                                      Master of Gfy.com
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 14888
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Choker
                                                                      No, Don't fuck with me Pipecrew, You have been warned before. That is old number anyway dumbass. This is your LAST WARNING.

                                                                      no dice, clock is ticking 1:55 left

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                                                                        • hahmike
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 2488
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                                                          No, Don't fuck with me Pipecrew, You have been warned before. That is old number anyway dumbass. This is your LAST WARNING.
                                                                          threats?

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                                                                            • Gary
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 6110
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Man, i love this board

                                                                              Up to 35$ per join...!

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                                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 60840
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Can't wait to see this.

                                                                                  Let's get it on!

                                                                                  Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site?

                                                                                  Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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                                                                                    • Pipecrew
                                                                                      Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 14888
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Lets not let this thread die!


                                                                                      167004678 is my uin for people who want the sale

                                                                                      Here it is, should save you guys time if you are interested in getting in on the Fuck PipeCrew Sale, Choker is selling high quality hitbot traffic, so get it early while prices still last! remember you have to call me a Fuckhead and then I call up Tom (choker) and authorize the transaction


                                                                                      All whiner choker has to do to get out of this is rename his "sale" to Fuck PipeCrewCash

                                                                                      this will make me happy and maybee some publicity

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                                                                                        • hyper
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 5294
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I'm making popcorn

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                                                                                            • Pipecrew
                                                                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                              • 14888
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              This isnt going to be any fun if choker is pretending not to be around............................. Post! I already have enough people whining that this is mean in your defense but oh well, i didnt start the "sale"

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                                                                                                • Choker
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                  • 9024
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Actually, I am seriously considering paying Pipecrew referal fees. Everytime he attempts to bring me down, I sale HUGE amounts of traffic, Thanks Pipecrew
                                                                                                  Who needs Cybercat when Pipecrew gets me so much business???
                                                                                                  ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                  Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                  The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                  Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                  http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                    • Choker
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                      • 9024
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      No, I started this sale after you opened your mouth about something that is none of your business. Keep it up, I am crying all the way to the bank.
                                                                                                      ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                      Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                      The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                      Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                      http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                        • Pipecrew
                                                                                                          Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                          • 14888
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I am down for that, how about 5%?

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                                                                                                            • Choker
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                              • 9024
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I am down for that, how about 5%
                                                                                                              I tried this before and it was very difficult to track who sent what buyer. But I am open to giving you free traffic everytime you flame me. It really does send me a lot of extra business.
                                                                                                              ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                              Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                              The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                              Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                              http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 14888
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Choker

                                                                                                                  I tried this before and it was very difficult to track who sent what buyer. But I am open to giving you free traffic everytime you flame me. It really does send me a lot of extra business.
                                                                                                                  Likewhoa Loves me, Apparently I drum up lots of business!

                                                                                                                  I dont even think you are serious but oh well, Send 5k to judsmovies.com and if it actually tracks and the traffic is somewhat productive I will talk all the shit you want

                                                                                                                  I am serious, i will watch the script

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                                                                                                                    • Plat
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                      • 2680
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I think pipe and choker are partners creating this subliminal spamming
                                                                                                                      Im fuckin retired

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                                                                                                                        • Choker
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                          • 9024
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          LOL, I am totally serious, put http://chokinchicken.com in your trade script and get ready
                                                                                                                          ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                          Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                          The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                          Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                          http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                            • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                              • 14888
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Plat
                                                                                                                              I think pipe and choker are partners creating this subliminal spamming
                                                                                                                              ofcourse, choker is married to my sister

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                                                                                                                                • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 14888
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                                                  LOL, I am totally serious, put http://chokinchicken.com in your trade script and get ready

                                                                                                                                  Your in, how many hours do you need? i will report to everyone at the end

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                                                                                                                                    • Choker
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 9024
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      http://www.chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/webmasters/
                                                                                                                                      user : pipecrew
                                                                                                                                      pass: isafaggot

                                                                                                                                      This is my new script in C, it is not even close to being done but you get the idea
                                                                                                                                      ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                                      Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                                      The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                      Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                      http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                        • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                                          Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 14888
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                                                          http://www.chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/webmasters/
                                                                                                                                          user : pipecrew
                                                                                                                                          pass: isafaggot

                                                                                                                                          This is my new script in C, it is not even close to being done but you get the idea

                                                                                                                                          Your script may be a little off, it says its sent 838 in unique

                                                                                                                                          here are my exact ucj stats

                                                                                                                                          In from you 593
                                                                                                                                          Out from me 11
                                                                                                                                          Clicks From your Traffic 143

                                                                                                                                          If you can get your prod over 120% I will advertise your site in my sig for a week, right now your prod is 24%

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                                                                                                                                            • Choker
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 9024
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              here is a demo stats page I made up just for you. It lists the domains I send traffic from,etc,etc. This is the old script and is being phased out

                                                                                                                                              http://chickentraffic.com/ctts/stats...igcocksinmyass
                                                                                                                                              ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                                              Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                                              The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                              Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                              http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                                • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 14888
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  and I will screenshot everything also

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                                                                                                                                                    • Choker
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 9024
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Pipecrew, I don't need you to help me sell traffic dude. I am selling over 300k a day without you, 90% of the buyers are repeat. This is just fun for me. I work 16 hours a day and this time fucking with you here is simply a much needed break for me. ALL my traffic is clicked and has http referrer in it. I am sending you general traffic, not movie traffic. Niche traffic I sell for more than $5 per k. I'm not about to send you movie traffic for free.
                                                                                                                                                      ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                                                      Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                                                      The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                                      Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                                      http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                                        • Pipecrew
                                                                                                                                                          Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 14888
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          yea i understand traffic is niche specific thats probably why your prod is in the toilet, the only positive thing i can say is it came fast, about 2k in 45 minutes

                                                                                                                                                          I am surprised you cant afford to send movie traffic, you are selling 300k a day, that might make a little bit of cash after expenses

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                                                                                                                                                            • Choker
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 9024
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              If the productivty is in the toilet for you, it might be because of the size of your page, it took me over 90 seconds to download it over 56k. I buy a lot of SE traffic to feed my sites, lots of newbies. Aparently my traffic is good for everyone else but you ????

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                                                                                                                                                              As far as the niche traffic goes, I am not 100% setup to sell it yet, it is coming from non-blind text links in my galleries headers/footers. Soon I will pay other tgps to list my galleries, so they will get enough traffic to sell enough niche traffic from. Right now I can only send 'Teens" in any significant amount
                                                                                                                                                              ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                                                              Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                                                              The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                                              Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                                              http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                                                • Satan
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1626
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I just finished a purchase from choker, here are the results.

                                                                                                                                                                  Purchase 80k over 4 days.

                                                                                                                                                                  Niche and non niche mixed.

                                                                                                                                                                  Service was so fast, I asked for the traffic and had it being sent in less than 5mins from payment!

                                                                                                                                                                  Unique prod ended at 94% overall
                                                                                                                                                                  raw Prod 75%
                                                                                                                                                                  Bookmarkers gained 13% = around 10k

                                                                                                                                                                  Sales increase x6 (I made my purchase $ back in 4 hours.

                                                                                                                                                                  I am still reviewing data from this sale, but all I can say is this is the 4th purchase from Choker.. the service is always tops, the traffic comes in super fast. and quality /price is as good as it gets.

                                                                                                                                                                  And no, he did NOT ask me to post any of this shit.

                                                                                                                                                                  WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • macroguru
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 260
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Well, Damn.

                                                                                                                                                                      I leave for half the day, and we have choker and pipecrew going at it!

                                                                                                                                                                      Wohoo!!

                                                                                                                                                                      Macro
                                                                                                                                                                      MacroGuru

                                                                                                                                                                      Give Your Surfers Some Portable Strippers - Pocket Strippers

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Erik Estrada
                                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 72
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          What's Pipe Crew's beef with Choker?
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Choker
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              What's Pipe Crew's beef with Choker?
                                                                                                                                                                              I have no idea. Since day one he has attacked me, I have never done business with him in any way. I think he thinks I am fake because I do not have sextracker on my sites, thus I can't join the "Top 10 Biggest Ego club" over there at Sextracker. LOL
                                                                                                                                                                              Guess if I put a counter on my sites and creat a giant traffic leak I would be able to join his "Elite" club or something like that. Whatever.
                                                                                                                                                                              He should spend his time attacking brokers who REALLY ARE FAKE and are ripping people off left and right lately.
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