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  • detoxed
    vip member
    • Jan 2003
    • 17798

    #1

    Want to start a hosting company? I've got $$

    If you are interested in starting a hosting company (and have a business plan) but lack the funds, contact me.


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  • wdsguy
    Ryde or Die
    • Dec 2002
    • 19568

    #2
    how much are you willing to invest?

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    • detoxed
      vip member
      • Jan 2003
      • 17798

      #3
      Originally posted by wdsguy
      how much are you willing to invest?
      how good is your business plan?

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      • davidd
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 1076

        #4
        Originally posted by detoxed
        If you are interested in starting a hosting company (and have a business plan) but lack the funds, contact me.



        ICQ 239088209

        Email [email protected]
        Without pulling out my resume, let me state that bandwidth is a commodity nowadays with little or no profit potential.

        -dd

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        • stocktrader23
          Let's do some business.
          • Jan 2003
          • 18781

          #5
          Originally posted by davidd
          Without pulling out my resume, let me state that bandwidth is a commodity nowadays with little or no profit potential.

          -dd


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          • uchase/webpry
            So Fucking Banned
            • Aug 2004
            • 2085

            #6
            Originally posted by davidd
            Without pulling out my resume, let me state that bandwidth is a commodity nowadays with little or no profit potential.

            -dd
            ... are you that davidD ?? (ex)candid ??

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            • detoxed
              vip member
              • Jan 2003
              • 17798

              #7
              Originally posted by davidd
              Without pulling out my resume, let me state that bandwidth is a commodity nowadays with little or no profit potential.

              -dd
              I said hosting, not bandwidth. Someone selling $5.95 hosting packages could easily sell 200 customers on 5mbps

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              • Magg
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2004
                • 4467

                #8
                Originally posted by davidd
                Without pulling out my resume, let me state that bandwidth is a commodity nowadays with little or no profit potential.

                -dd

                yes, theres NO money in hosting! Everyone get out of it.

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                • Rollin Studios
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 518

                  #9
                  Don't we all.

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                  • Intrigue
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 662

                    #10
                    it would be nice to see someone use other then redhat or suse on shared hosting accounts. Just because they're shared doesn't mean you have to skimp on extra goodies compiled into php and what not. Might wanna consider that if you find someone and they're setting some machines up

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                    • Rollin Studios
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 518

                      #11
                      Check out http://www.autica.com

                      Reseller plans for as low as 35 bucks a month.

                      High end servers too....

                      by me

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                      • davidd
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1076

                        #12
                        Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                        ... are you that davidD ?? (ex)candid ??
                        Yes.

                        ex-StrictlyHosting
                        ex-CandidHosting

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                        • xclusive
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 35218

                          #13
                          If you wanna get into hosting make sure that you find the best quality vs. cost balance and you will be fine. Remember don't just jump into anything, Do the math...

                          I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                          • davidd
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1076

                            #14
                            Originally posted by detoxed
                            I said hosting, not bandwidth. Someone selling $5.95 hosting packages could easily sell 200 customers on 5mbps
                            And this is a viable business?

                            You and I obviously have different definitions of what a business is. I will elaborate on my previous comment and say that if you are looking to make real money, with real margins, there are better businesses to be in.

                            Your example grosses ~$1200, bringing that out to 20000 customers would be ~$120,000 gross... still not enough money to get into hosting for.

                            -dd

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                            • keyboard warrior
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1435

                              #15
                              Money can make more on other projects! Hosting is not one of them!
                              - nothing here -

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                              • detoxed
                                vip member
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 17798

                                #16
                                Originally posted by davidd
                                And this is a viable business?

                                You and I obviously have different definitions of what a business is. I will elaborate on my previous comment and say that if you are looking to make real money, with real margins, there are better businesses to be in.

                                Your example grosses ~$1200, bringing that out to 20000 customers would be ~$120,000 gross... still not enough money to get into hosting for.

                                -dd

                                LOL my example was an example. I think getting 10,000 customers paying between $5.95 and $29.95 is a great business model. Its very little work that I would have to do, a few techs, customer service, automate almost everything. And with revenues and a customer base bigger hosting companies might try to buy it.

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                                • MBS Auto
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 1725

                                  #17
                                  I am thinking about seting up shop in Downtown LA right on the node

                                  We already have an office there but I think hosting is the way to go!!! Offer people a one stop shoping deal
                                  Shoes and Boot

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                                  • davidd
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 1076

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by detoxed
                                    LOL my example was an example. I think getting 10,000 customers paying between $5.95 and $29.95 is a great business model. Its very little work that I would have to do, a few techs, customer service, automate almost everything. And with revenues and a customer base bigger hosting companies might try to buy it.
                                    I posted in this thread to bring some reality into this discussion. I am one of the few people in this world who can say they have built hosting companies from scratch - up to the point of generating revenue in excess of $10mil a year. Hosting made me a lot of money, and I can say that my efforts benefitted a lot of people - from investors/owners, employees, and most importantly - the customers.

                                    As to your above post, getting 10,000 customers is close to impossible. It should also not be the goal of any hosting company. 10000 customers is a support and technical nightmare. On a foundation side it is great, as your company would be composed of 10000 paying customers and would be close to impossible to hurt financially. Getting those 10000 customers would translate into a massive amount of marketing, etc and could not be maintained by 'a few techs'. No matter how much automation you have, hosting requires raw man power/hours that can not be marginalized by your comments.

                                    Again, hosting is NOT an industry people should see as easy and a cash machine. Mindsets like this produce the scores of hosting companies that have appeared, failed, and caused major pain to unknowing customers along the way. The thing that none of these flash in the pan hosting companies ever cared about was the customers.

                                    -dd

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                                    • detoxed
                                      vip member
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 17798

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by davidd
                                      I posted in this thread to bring some reality into this discussion. I am one of the few people in this world who can say they have built hosting companies from scratch - up to the point of generating revenue in excess of $10mil a year. Hosting made me a lot of money, and I can say that my efforts benefitted a lot of people - from investors/owners, employees, and most importantly - the customers.

                                      As to your above post, getting 10,000 customers is close to impossible. It should also not be the goal of any hosting company. 10000 customers is a support and technical nightmare. On a foundation side it is great, as your company would be composed of 10000 paying customers and would be close to impossible to hurt financially. Getting those 10000 customers would translate into a massive amount of marketing, etc and could not be maintained by 'a few techs'. No matter how much automation you have, hosting requires raw man power/hours that can not be marginalized by your comments.

                                      Again, hosting is NOT an industry people should see as easy and a cash machine. Mindsets like this produce the scores of hosting companies that have appeared, failed, and caused major pain to unknowing customers along the way. The thing that none of these flash in the pan hosting companies ever cared about was the customers.

                                      -dd

                                      How to solve the problem: lackluster customer support.

                                      10,000 customers paying $5.95 seems pretty easy to me, but then again I have better marketing ideas than most.

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                                      • Magg
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 4467

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MBS Auto
                                        I am thinking about seting up shop in Downtown LA right on the node

                                        We already have an office there but I think hosting is the way to go!!! Offer people a one stop shoping deal

                                        MBS Auto, hit me up, Id like to speak with you!

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                                        • baddog
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 107089

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Magg
                                          yes, theres NO money in hosting! Everyone get out of it.
                                          don't forget, Please

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                                          • DatingGold
                                            $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 13185

                                            #22
                                            you could promote it in yahoo chat rooms
                                            9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!



                                            ADULT DATING - $100 PPS

                                            LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS

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                                            • davidd
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 1076

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by detoxed
                                              How to solve the problem: lackluster customer support.

                                              10,000 customers paying $5.95 seems pretty easy to me, but then again I have better marketing ideas than most.
                                              I wish you well in your endeavours.

                                              -dd

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                                              • detoxed
                                                vip member
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 17798

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                you could promote it in yahoo chat rooms
                                                hmm should i say anything

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                                                • DatingGold
                                                  $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 13185

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by detoxed
                                                  hmm should i say anything
                                                  i was serious, a bunch of newbs
                                                  9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!



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                                                  LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS

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                                                  • Rochard
                                                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 75764

                                                    #26
                                                    Many years ago I worked for a workman's comp company, and I was selected to be on a team to develop our business plan for the future year. It was more of a statement than a drawn out business plan.

                                                    My thoughts for a business plan were pretty simple: "Make lots of money while providing good customer service while making sure employees don't get pissed off and shoot everyone".

                                                    The business plan on Lightspeed is very simlar, although we managed to fit in naked chicks.
                                                    Herschel Savage
                                                    Brooklyn, NY

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                                                    • macho
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 2875

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                                                      ... are you that davidD ?? (ex)candid ??
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                                                      • SpeakEasy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 2681

                                                        #28
                                                        Detoxed, I comend you for wanting to expand your investments, but you have no Idea about the hosting biz. daveD is a bit closer to knowing the ins and outs. There are HUGE upfront costs or debts, likr Bandwidth commitments, routers, switches, servers, rack space techs, customer support, accounting personnel etc.... thats just the tip of the iceberg. You're theory about getting 10,000 customers is funny because that's not going to happen in todays market to eaisly. Well I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. As daved said, go look to invest into something else as the hosting biz is no easy money at all.
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