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  • tony286
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #1

    Time for the big fish to stepup and do the right thing.

    Team of Industry Lawyers Challenge 2257 Amendments


    CANOGA PARK, Calif. ? In anticipation of the federal government publishing Attorney General John Ashhahahahaha's final amendments to current 2257 law, a group of adult industry lawyers have partnered with the Free Speech Coalition to challenge the issue all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.

    Based on the strong belief that the 2257 amendments will pose a serious threat to the adult webmaster community by extending the chain of record keeping responsibility from producers to secondary producers, Greg Piccionelli, Jeffrey Douglas, Paul Cambria, Louis Sirkin, Reed Lee and Robert Sarno have all agreed to donate a substantial amount of their professional time to file two separate lawsuits in Federal District Court against the Justice Department.

    "We're in this together," Piccionelli told XBiz. "If these regulations go into effect, a lot of people could go to jail. It's the government's weapon of mass destruction and we've got to take this thing out. Then the government will be forced to focus on what they should, like child porn. These amendments are a back door way for the government to prosecute normal content, and this is what we're trying to knock out."

    According to Piccionelli, the group of lawyers are coordinating a "full frontal attack" on the regulations through a multi-jurisdictional approach.

    The purpose of filing two lawsuits, which will be filed through Paul Cambria and Louis Sirkin's respective law firms, is because there are so many issues with the amended regulations that addressing them all as part of one single lawsuit would be impossible.

    The FSC has been tapped as the plaintiff in both cases because it does not distribute content and is the industry trade association that deals with matters such as 2257. The FSC is also not subject to the requirements of 2257 record-keeping laws.

    "As soon as the final regulations are announced, we want to be ready to go to Federal District Court to seek an injunction on behalf of the FSC and its members," the FSC said.

    According to Piccionelli, the purpose of preparing for the lawsuit before the regulations have even been published is to get the judge to enjoin the regulations immediately before they go into effect. If the regulations are not challenged, adult webmasters who have not complied with the considerably stricter guidelines would be immediately be liable.

    The amended regulations are currently in a holding pattern before being published in the Federal Register, after which they would go into effect within 30 days.

    Of primary concern with the amendments is that the Justice Department has now broadened the definition of what an adult producer is to the extent that it could now include not only the original producer, but the content provider and possibly subsequent website operators that deal with the same content.

    The consequences of non-compliance could be dire for many webmasters, the lawyers agree, considering that 2257 law has never before been enforced by the government. And on the eve of the possible re-election of George Bush, an attack against the adult industry could easily be used by the government to support its political agenda and maintain strong support from more conservative Americans.

    Another scenario, Piccionelli predicts, could be that if Bush loses to Sen. John Kerry, he could leave the amended regulations as a "goodbye present" for the Kerry presidency to clean up after he's gone.

    "There are so many permutations," Piccionelli said. "The random element of going after a bunch of porn people could galvanize the religious right, but it could also alienate voters who don't want to see their tax dollars going into the fight against porn at this time in history."

    In the meantime, Douglas and Piccionelli have donated thousands of hours of their own time to get the project organized and to oversee the legal work from both law firms. All of the lawyers involved have also agreed to do the work at a fraction of their normal fees.

    The FSC has set up a fund to support the legal challenge and is asking the online adult community to donate up to $5,000 exclusively for the 2257 litigation fund.

    All questions regarding donations should be directed to the Free Speech Coalition, Jeffrey Douglas at (310) 576-3411, [email protected], or Greg Piccionelli at (310) 553-3375, [email protected].
    Last edited by tony286; 10-20-2004, 08:12 PM.
  • Tofu
    The Video Specialist
    • Jul 2003
    • 5615

    #2
    Nice one Tony!
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    • tony299
      lurker
      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      Thanks Tofu , there are people on this board that have large resources. Its time to step up to the plate. You dont want to give out model releases of your star girls .While here is your chance, to protect them.

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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        no big fish weill ever step up and use their money for the good of the industry unless it is a direct threat to them as a company....

        there are very few, to no, martyrs in porn

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #5
          I am not asking them to fall on their sword ,I am asking them to write a check lol. To start it we are going to donate $100, right now things are alittle tight til my processor firms up but this effects us all.
          Last edited by tony286; 10-20-2004, 08:24 PM.

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          • stocktrader23
            Let's do some business.
            • Jan 2003
            • 18781

            #6
            Originally posted by JaceXXX
            no big fish weill ever step up and use their money for the good of the industry unless it is a direct threat to them as a company....

            there are very few, to no, martyrs in porn

            This is a threat to them knucklehead.


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            • KarupLou
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2004
              • 323

              #7
              Hi all,
              I think is this is an excellent post Tony! Just to let you know, I consider us a BIG FISH and we will be donating to this cause. Although we are not directly affected by this and all of our docs are in order we are still going to be supporting this as much as we can. BTW, good luck with Ibill Tony. I have followed your posts regarding IBill and I wish you the very best. That happened to us in 2001 with WTS and it sucked, but we recovered.

              Louis from
              www.karupspc.com
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              • Big Fish 47
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 1035

                #8
                OK - this thread title scared me.

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                • MrIzzz
                  If u touch it, I will cum
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22923

                  #9
                  nice thread. it gives me hope seeing someone is taking up the cause. now if only more "playas" could step up


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                  • webmaster x
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4400

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tofu
                    Nice one Tony!
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                    • SteveLightspeed
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 7940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                      no big fish weill ever step up and use their money for the good of the industry unless it is a direct threat to them as a company....

                      there are very few, to no, martyrs in porn

                      Bullshit, I'm no "big fish", but COUNT ME IN

                      Steve Lightspeed
                      Abra-cadabra!

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                      • Shoehorn!
                        Die With Your Boots On
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 22872

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lightspeed
                        Bullshit, I'm no "big fish", but COUNT ME IN

                        Steve Lightspeed

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                        • tony299
                          lurker
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021

                          #13

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                          • Steve_NCH
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 515

                            #14
                            OK - this thread title scared me.

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                            • scoreman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 1491

                              #15
                              This is a great cause..COUNT US IN.

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                              • Tala
                                Fucked if I know
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 23368

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                Bullshit, I'm no "big fish", but COUNT ME IN

                                Steve Lightspeed

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                                • dirtysouth
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 2613

                                  #17
                                  Would someone please post the link to the 2257 software proggy someone wrote?
                                  no sig

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                                  • Spunky
                                    I need a beer
                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 133978

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                    Bullshit, I'm no "big fish", but COUNT ME IN

                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                    Good to hear man

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                                    • Snake Doctor
                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 13449

                                      #19
                                      I'm a very small fish (just a gallery guy) but I'll be sending at least 1K to the FSC for this fight.

                                      EVERYONE in this industry should contribute something.....this is WAY bigger than the Acacia fight, its not about money its about 5 years in jail for a paperwork error.
                                      sig too big

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                                      • dirtysouth
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 2613

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dirtysouth
                                        Would someone please post the link to the 2257 software proggy someone wrote?
                                        Found it: http://www.generationxlaw.com/webmasters_ff.htm
                                        no sig

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                                        • tony299
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          All you guys really rock

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                                          • Snake Doctor
                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 13449

                                            #22
                                            *bump*

                                            This belongs on the front page.
                                            sig too big

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                                            • Tala
                                              Fucked if I know
                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 23368

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                              *bump*

                                              This belongs on the front page.
                                              Agreed.

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                                              • JFK
                                                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 67369

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                All you guys really rock
                                                Thanks for posting this Tony

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                                                • Techie Media
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 3092

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                  no big fish weill ever step up and use their money for the good of the industry unless it is a direct threat to them as a company....

                                                  there are very few, to no, martyrs in porn
                                                  That is pure Bull Hookie............

                                                  This affects all of us, even us Hosting Companies. You can count Techie Media in for sure !!


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                                                  • tony299
                                                    lurker
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 57021

                                                    #26
                                                    bump for unity

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