Originally posted by mahoney
Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee. Who would win ?
Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee. Who would win ?
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Originally posted by SGS
Don King by a mile
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I think what it basically gets down to is this.
If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.
IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.
Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.
I could be wrong.
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That's exactly right. So it's a toss-up.Originally posted by Arousal Design
I think what it basically gets down to is this.
If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.
IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.
Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.
I could be wrong.
I've never seen a martial arts person in a street fight, so I don't even know if that stuff works all that well in reality.Comment
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Originally posted by Arousal Design
I think what it basically gets down to is this.
If Mike Tyson could hit BL, he's done for.
IF Tyson can't connect at all with BL, then Tyson's done for.
Mainly because I think both have the "power" to disable the other person within one punch/technique/whatever you want to call it.
I could be wrong.
With that said... who are you leaning towards?
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yea thats about it.....it could go both ways......Originally posted by WWC - Jimmy
Bruce Lee would dance around Mike like a butterfly. However, one lucky punch from Mike would just about send the green hornet back into his grave...
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lol yeah try fighting a animal on steroids
come on people
I dont care what karate shit who knows, when you fight somneone with tons of rage its hard to win
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Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart.Originally posted by EscortBiz
lol yeah try fighting a animal on steroids
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I dont care what karate shit who knows, when you fight somneone with tons of rage its hard to win
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Originally posted by Vitasoy
I disagree, Bruce Lee was not just an actor. And BBJ came from Judo.. They just perfected/modified it.
BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.
800lb woman vs a ham sandwich, who would win?
I won!!!
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Alexandr Karelin in his prime would have killed both Tyson and Lee at the same time.Comment
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how big of a ham sandwich are you talkin about ?Originally posted by stocktrader23
Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.
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no question....first of all tyson could NEVER land a punch on him. he misses enough with other slow 220 pounders, he could never hit a target that moved with that kind of speed and agility. second, Lee has proven himself and dropped fighters in the past that were WAY tougher that Tyson could ever dream of being.Comment
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Originally posted by dig420
Rickson by armbar
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Pretty sure that Bruce trained on the ground aswell as his stand up.Originally posted by dig420
free knowledge for you:
Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked by almost any BJJ Blue Belt. Let alone Mike Tyson.Last edited by CCdoug; 10-16-2004, 07:13 AM.Comment
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Bruce Lee for sureComment
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Originally posted by dig420
first off, Shamrock outweighs Royce by about 50 lbs. Or more. And Royce tapped his ass out in their first fight and Shamrock held on for dear life and fought for a draw in their second. And Shamrock is a real live world-class fighter in legitimate and proven fighting arts, as opposed to an actor who studies a useless system and never did more than get in a few backyard scraps.
Second, there are plenty of 'real' strikers in MMA, always have been. Art Jimmerson was in the first UFC. The reason boxers get their clocks cleaned is because they can't fight on the ground. Also, you don't need the punching power of Mike Tyson to be a good striker in MMA because they're basically using their bare hands, and you don't have to hit like Tyson to knock a man out with your naked fist.
Botha got fucked up in K-1, let alone trying to compete in UFC.
Here's what the UFC is, for those who've never heard of it. All styles allowed, mano a mano, and the last one standing is the cock of the walk. For the first three years, until everybody started learning BJJ, Royce Gracie - 170 lbs - tapped out everybody, all sizes, from all other martial arts. If they hadn't started using BJJ, he'd be doing it to this day.
All the Gracies did was fight anyone and everyone and never NEVER lose until people started fighting like the Gracies. You people who still think Nin-Jitsu, Pressure Point Fighting and Kung-Fu work are no better than flat-earthers.
The question isn't in debate, it's been settled for anyone paying attention. Ground Fighters beat stand-up fighters. EVERYBODY beats Kung Fu fighters. If you don't have submissions in your game, a submission fighter is going to whip your ass.
BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo and Wrestling if you learn some BJJ submissions are about the only things that work in real life. He who has ears (and eyes and an internet connection and can read english) let him hear.
Everybody else go on waiting for Santy Claus to come down the chimney
Whats all the hype with the Gracie's ?
Royce in his prime still would get owned by the Nog brothers, he only pulled of that many submissions because fighters back then had no clue on how to defend submissions.
Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out!Comment
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good answerOriginally posted by jade_dragon
In the ring, Tyson. Bruce based a lot of Jeet Kun Do on western boxing technique and said that boxers were the king of the ring. Lee was asked once if he thought he could take Ali and he said no way and that Ali would murder him, something along the lines of "look at the size of his hands"
On the streets then it would be a lot closer but with combat rules like those in K1 Bruce would not do as well as you think.Beat it. Nothing to see here.Comment
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Originally posted by CrazyJ
Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out!
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Bruce Lee for sure
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Originally posted by punkworld
BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.
Jujutsu is the father art of Judo, Correct, but BJJ was based on a form of Judo. Anyways all I'm saying is it came from JAPAN. They just modified it.Comment
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Originally posted by punkworld
BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.
In 1914 a Japanese Judo and jiu-jitsu master named Mitsuo Maeda (called Count Koma) came to Brazil. In return for help from the Brazilian politician Gastao Gracie, Koma taught jiu-jitsu to Gastao's son Carlos. Carlos in turn taught his brothers (most notably Helio). They went on to further refine the art via constant no-rules competition, developing what is now known as Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
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Originally posted by punkworld
BJJ came from the original jiu jitsu. Judo also came from the original jiu jitsu, and is the softcore version specifically developed for competing instead of real fighting.
At this point, the base of techniques in BJJ was similar to those in Kano's Judo academy in Japan. As the years progressed, however, the brothers (notably Carlos and Helio) and their students refined their art via brutal no-rules fights, both in public challenges and on the street. Particularly notable was their willingness to fight outside of weight categories, permitting a skilled small fighter to attempt to defeat a much larger opponent.Comment
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Originally posted by Vitasoy
In return for help from the Brazilian politician Gastao Gracie, Koma taught jiu-jitsu to Gastao's son Carlos./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Wow alot of opinions here. Is The Ultimate Fighting Challenge still on ? Remeber Hoyce Gracie ?Comment
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Originally posted by dunefield
Tyson because Bruce Lee won't show up to the fight...
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come visit brooklyn one night tell me what roid rage does after your visitOriginally posted by WarChild
Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart.
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I agree!!! I have seen it happen many times!!!Originally posted by WarChild
Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart.
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I don't need to go to Brooklyn. I used to do Steroids myself in my younger years.Originally posted by EscortBiz
come visit brooklyn one night tell me what roid rage does after your visit
Fighting is 90% mental and 10% physical. Rage doesn't help..Comment
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boxing vs jeet kune do ?
jeet kune do for sure
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really lets hear the cycle(s) you did, doses, pct, etcOriginally posted by WarChild
I don't need to go to Brooklyn. I used to do Steroids myself in my younger years.
Fighting is 90% mental and 10% physical. Rage doesn't help.
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What are you smokin? Kung fu was developed by monks who had no way to defend themselves against rufians, so they developed a fighting system to protect themselves. Kung fu is functional above all things. You're probably thinking of Wu Shu, which is a fighting style that is almost strictly for show.Originally posted by dig420
Bruce Lee was a good actor, but he studied Kung Fu.
It turns out, KF is just about worthless in a real fight.
ergo, Bruce Lee isn't that tough. There are thugs on this board that could kick his ass. Get a clue people.
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Ham Sandwich Of Course!Originally posted by stocktrader23
Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.
800lb woman vs a ham sandwich, who would win?
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Right on! Usually the guy with the most rage gets worked by the guy that keeps his cool.Originally posted by WarChild
Rage is a distraction. The best fighters don't "rage", they calmy pick their opponents apart.
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kung fu is more like a real life, fantasy role playing game combined with dancing for retards.Originally posted by CET
What are you smokin? Kung fu was developed by monks who had no way to defend themselves against rufians, so they developed a fighting system to protect themselves. Kung fu is functional above all things. You're probably thinking of Wu Shu, which is a fighting style that is almost strictly for show.Comment
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You've been watching too many Jackie Chan movies.Originally posted by Pleasurepays
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IN the ring, Tyson. On the street, Bruce.
Oh, and a 180lb Frank Shamrock in his prime would destroy Rickson in his prime.I sale cheap sigwhoreComment
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Dam right he would.Originally posted by Nas7782
IN the ring, Tyson. On the street, Bruce.
Oh, and a 180lb Frank Shamrock in his prime would destroy Rickson in his prime.
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Originally posted by punkworld
True, but he was also a Judo master.
"In 1914 a Japanese Judo and jiu-jitsu master named Mitsuo Maeda (called Count Koma)"
then we have....
"At this point, the base of techniques in BJJ was similar to those in Kano's Judo academy in Japan."Comment
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Originally posted by mahoney
Wow alot of opinions here. Is The Ultimate Fighting Challenge still on ? Remeber Hoyce Gracie ?
UFC is still here, but you should really check out PRIDE.... Awesome match up comming out Wanderlei Silva (Brazil) Vs Quinton Jackson (USA) for the middle weight belt...
On October 31st, can watch it? TIVO it!!!! it's on PPV btw.Comment
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Road rage is only effective if he can KO the person right away... If he ever does gas out, he won't be as effective... ala Phil Baroni (NY BADASS) He has heavy KO power ( was a body builder, hes roids in him... but once he gases out hes not effective.Originally posted by EscortBiz
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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
kung fu is more like a real life, fantasy role playing game combined with dancing for retards.
You do not know your history about Kung Fu... You are correct it is now more fo a Dancing art (depends what art). But back in the 1860's or later (don't quote me on this but it was around there) it was a very effective Martial Arts for selfdefense. Back then the king wanted to make the civilans happy, and did not want to lose his reign as king (fear that the rebels might over thrown him, ordered to have them killed and run out of china.... Think about it, that is why it's not as effective.Comment
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Originally posted by Nas7782
Oh, and a 180lb Frank Shamrock in his prime would destroy Rickson in his prime.
This is the funniest shit I read in this thread.... btw, he might come out of retiremnet. I would like him to face someone like SAK for Saku's last match.
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Originally posted by CrazyJ
Dam right he would.
Do you have any idea who Rickson is and his track record? Compared to Frank? Frank is a awsome fighter, don't get me wrong. But the ora of Rickson is not comparable. Rickson is undefeted in MMA. Was paid a million per match the last two bouts (that is A LOT in MMA) and on the streets and other BJJ competitions his record is surpreme.Comment
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Rickson Gracie. Read up...
http://rickson.com/frame_history.html
400-0-0 on the streets, and other competitions and a undefeated MMA record....
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