Do you still promote sites that offer 50% recurring?

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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #1

    Do you still promote sites that offer 50% recurring?

    or is 60% the standard now?

    I am working with someone on getting his site more traffic and the next step is to get some affiliates, but he only offer 50% recurring....if the site has a nice tour and retains, would you all still promote it?
  • 4Pics
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 7952

    #2
    He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

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    • cali_22
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 2330

      #3
      i say how can you ask for anything more than half the profit so im happy with 50% , but then again 60% is always better

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      • Sly
        Let's do some business!
        • Sep 2004
        • 31379

        #4
        Originally posted by 4Pics
        He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.
        Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.
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        • Steen2
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 7662

          #5
          50% is fine if it's a good site and works well for you.
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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            Originally posted by Sly
            Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.
            yeah, i agree with you on that...i barely promote pps anymore except for TCG....i still get nice checks from companies I haven't actively promoted in over a year...you just gotta know how to pick em and you can do VERY well with recurring

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            • ztik
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2001
              • 5196

              #7
              are you 12 years old? it doesn't matter what a site pays. it matters how much money it makes ya.
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              • Drake
                Hello world!
                • Mar 2003
                • 12508

                #8
                Originally posted by Sly
                Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.
                Generally speaking this appears to be the case

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                • Drake
                  Hello world!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 12508

                  #9
                  On another note, PPS is a pretty enticing option considering lower recurring rates all around compared to years ago, as well as the shakiness of the future of things like processing. Thus, I use both, and I choose wisely.

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                  • Jace
                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 35562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ztik
                    are you 12 years old? it doesn't matter what a site pays. it matters how much money it makes ya.
                    i agree with that, but how do you know how much it will make you when you haven't sold it yet?

                    first step is too entice the affiliates

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                    • NickB.
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 8865

                      #11
                      50-60% is ok, just show your webmasters everything, membership to the site should convince them

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                      • Jace
                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 35562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nickbaauw
                        50-60% is ok, just show your webmasters everything, membership to the site should convince them
                        oh for sure...i am redoing the affiliate page now, and it will include a temp password to the site...

                        this site has been totally untouched by affiliates, so it will be a good one to jump in on...not much widespread promotion yet

                        lots and lots of exclusive content that hasn't been seen much at all

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                        • Vitasoy
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 58202

                          #13
                          I'm okay with 50% as long asm I can the members area...


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                          • andrej_NDC
                            Registered User
                            • May 2004
                            • 7760

                            #14
                            I pay 50%, but its NET. I could pay 65% and let the affiliates pay the fees, would be the same. Many programs offer 60-70%, but they let you pay the fees, or split them. Consider everything.

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                            • Tipsy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 6989

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                              oh for sure...i am redoing the affiliate page now, and it will include a temp password to the site...
                              Amazing how many programs don't make it easy to see the members section. Ok - in most cases it only takes a few bucks to find out but what a pain in the ass to have to do.
                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                              • rowan
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 17393

                                #16
                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                I pay 50%, but its NET. I could pay 65% and let the affiliates pay the fees, would be the same. Many programs offer 60-70%, but they let you pay the fees, or split them. Consider everything.
                                Don't you mean you pay 50% GROSS? ie no processing fees come out of the affiliate's payment. 50% net would be about 43% gross.

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                                • Tipsy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6989

                                  #17
                                  Oh and to answer the original question - sure but only if the site was very, very good. It'd need to retain very well at 50% to make it worthwhile.
                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                  • andrej_NDC
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 7760

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                    Don't you mean you pay 50% GROSS? ie no processing fees come out of the affiliate's payment. 50% net would be about 43% gross.
                                    hehe, yes, you are right I mean 50% of the paysite price is your NET profit, not gross. No more deductions.

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                                    • digifan
                                      The Profiler
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 14618

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 4Pics
                                      He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.
                                      What he said.
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                                      • Gynecologist
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2004
                                        • 2184

                                        #20
                                        I love recurring. Some people never seem to cancel.

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                                        • marttali
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 265

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cali_22
                                          i say how can you ask for anything more than half the profit so im happy with 50% , but then again 60% is always better
                                          you obviosly havent seen too many member areas, i say many pps site's member areas are bullshit

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                                          • Project-Shadow
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 7340

                                            #22
                                            Alot of PPS are cookie cutters. But having said that, there are always quality sites out there, that don't rely on plug-ins for retenetion.

                                            And yes, I do promote 50%... but I prefer 60% like most sane people.

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                                            • Paparazzi
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 3488

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                              or is 60% the standard now?

                                              I am working with someone on getting his site more traffic and the next step is to get some affiliates, but he only offer 50% recurring....if the site has a nice tour and retains, would you all still promote it?
                                              50% is still standard. If the site converts and retains why not...

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                                              • Basic_man
                                                Programming King Pin
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 27360

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 4Pics
                                                He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.
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                                                • Fred Quimby
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 5430

                                                  #25
                                                  sure,,,if they got good crap and update often

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                                                  • johnbosh
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 8965

                                                    #26
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