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  • Methodcash Rick
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 1720
    #401
    400 Ibill NON-Updates


    Yup, I noticed the same exact thing...

    I also checked the rebills that went through, and guess what, they're VISA cards, not MasterCard...

    Atleast they show up in CMI, but it makes we wonder too...
    Last edited by Methodcash Rick; 10-11-2004, 03:29 PM.

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      • Morphious
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2004
        • 197
        #402
        cause I got a Visa decline rebill email today - and the ONLY way they can get a decline is if they are running the cards!

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          • Methodcash Rick
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2004
            • 1720
            #403
            Here's another thought...

            Are they running and collecting on MY rebills, and paying other webmasters with those funds? Cuz they sure as fuck haven't been paying me...

            Hmmmmmmmmmm

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              • imageman
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 1938
                #404
                Originally posted by BB-Rick
                Here's another thought...

                Are they running and collecting on MY rebills, and paying other webmasters with those funds? Cuz they sure as fuck haven't been paying me...

                Hmmmmmmmmmm
                Id say that was a good guess

                Fuck Ibill

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                  • FaberX
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 181
                    #405
                    I've also noticed the same, all I can think of is that maybe they are still able to process visa for european surfers... I've noticed quite a few .de email addresses between the few transactions that when thru.

                    Now, if anyone from ibill is reading this, would be a pretty good time to post and let us know what the heck is going on, you promised an update, my rep promised news regarding ibill complete, and still, you are a no show.

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                      • Morphious
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 197
                        #406
                        well I can tell you the ones they are rebilling with me are not Europe ones , they are 99% US

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                          • keyboard warrior
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1435
                            #407
                            some rebills - visa's are going through! without the new contract.
                            - nothing here -

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                              • keyboard warrior
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 1435
                                #408
                                Hey MarkIbill why dont you POST SOME INFO AS to what the hell is going on?
                                - nothing here -

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                                  • Methodcash Rick
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 1720
                                    #409
                                    All the ones that have run for me, are US, Japan, and a very few European customers...

                                    I'm still wondering how they're doing it, and if I will ever get paid..

                                    I have not, and will not sign their bullshit contract for the "merchant account", so they're billing my rebills somehow...

                                    Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait and see, since no one from IBill is forthcoming with any information...

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                                      • Sophmaster
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2004
                                        • 310
                                        #410
                                        They have to pay this week , enough is enough !
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                                          • twist
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 415
                                            #411
                                            I got my eu-revshare checks today.
                                            I love big boobs.

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                                              • Webby
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 14956
                                                #412
                                                Speechless :-)

                                                Why the hell would anyone even consider something so damned stupid as having some merchant account with a company that can't even run it's business?

                                                I suppose this is another way of:

                                                (a) trying to grasp a client before they jump ship, and

                                                (b) pull some money in quick to cover their asses and be left with "something" to sell the next sad ass who has ambitions of owning iBill.

                                                Pathetic!
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                                                  • collegeboyslive
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 189
                                                    #413
                                                    OK my very real question is:

                                                    given that things happen and ignoring the visa mess for a moment. They still got paid for mastercard and they still got paid for checks and they still got paid for 900# sales.

                                                    so why havnt we been given a payout of those monies?

                                                    after all Ibill HAS received them and is in fact still rebilling them.

                                                    Sounds like a case of robbing peter to pay paul
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                                                      • collegeboyslive
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 189
                                                        #414
                                                        I decided to ask my question to ibill here is their reply:

                                                        All previous check, 900# and mastercars were handled by first data.

                                                        they have switched to a new bank that seems to be able to process these without any new forms being filled out.


                                                        hummm ?
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                                                          • woodman
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 433
                                                            #415
                                                            Originally posted by collegeboyslive
                                                            I decided to ask my question to ibill here is their reply:

                                                            All previous check, 900# and mastercars were handled by first data.

                                                            they have switched to a new bank that seems to be able to process these without any new forms being filled out.


                                                            hummm ?

                                                            you don't really believe First Data was processing checks and web900 do you?

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                                                              • TheLegacy
                                                                SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 18171
                                                                #416
                                                                so help me catch up here.. has anyone gotten paid??
                                                                Has IBill been delaying their promises??
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                                                                  • Methodcash Rick
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 1720
                                                                    #417
                                                                    I know that SOME EU customers have been paid, but I don't know of any US people that have been paid yet...

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                                                                      • Penrod
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                        • 3580
                                                                        #418
                                                                        Another update message will be posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 at 5:00 p.m. EST.

                                                                        Never saw it. Did anyone get an update?

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                                                                          • Morphious
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                            • 197
                                                                            #419
                                                                            Just Spoke to my Rep.

                                                                            Question 1. How can my rebills be billing and I an get decline emails for US visas.?

                                                                            Answer - Impossible, we have not had visa in our system for 10 days now.

                                                                            - so I continued to explain to him that this is impossible and that they would have to authenticate with Visa to rebill decline some one! and that the cmi shows them going through!!!!

                                                                            Answer, must be some kind of Technical glitch.. Because impossible!

                                                                            So if ANYONE out there knows of a user that they can contact to have them check there bank records and verify if ibill is processing cards or not ( Please be aware that there is a rumor that they are processing through the Philippines , so Please check for other names as well !!!!! )


                                                                            Question. - What about the announcement - was to be yesterday! .

                                                                            Answer. - I just got out of a meeting and we will have an answer on Friday as to weather we are going to do this type of business or scale back our business.


                                                                            Question - When are the US customers going to be paid, - as I have to pay my rent!

                                                                            Answer - we are working on it.


                                                                            Wow all I can say is that the first Q-A took 10 minutes of me explaining to him that there is NO way that some one can be declined , and NOT be authenticated from a Visa account!!!

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                                                                              • keyboard warrior
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 1435
                                                                                #420
                                                                                it could be a last dodge tactic and then close up shop, get all they can before they go under.

                                                                                It happened to other proccessing companies, why not IBILL.
                                                                                - nothing here -

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                                                                                  • Methodcash Rick
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 1720
                                                                                    #421
                                                                                    I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt up until the point, that I saw Visa transactions being processed, no payments forth coming, and the "run around" that they have been giving to everyone...

                                                                                    Time for me to jump the sinking ship, on any little piece of floating debris I can find...

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                                                                                      • boobmaster
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 6185
                                                                                        #422
                                                                                        Originally posted by Morphious

                                                                                        So if ANYONE out there knows of a user that they can contact to have them check there bank records and verify if ibill is processing cards or not ( Please be aware that there is a rumor that they are processing through the Philippines , so Please check for other names as well !!!!! )
                                                                                        They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.

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                                                                                          • boobmaster
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 6185
                                                                                            #423
                                                                                            Not that it matters at this point, but are they requiring ALL their clients to sign up for ibill direct and pay the additional $1,500.00 in VISA fees, or can clients refuse this?

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                                                                                              • Calvinguy
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 1752
                                                                                                #424
                                                                                                Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                                                They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.
                                                                                                Are you even a client of Ibill? Some of your questions makes me wonder...

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                                                                                                  • tony299
                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021
                                                                                                    #425
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Calvinguy
                                                                                                    Are you even a client of Ibill? Some of your questions makes me wonder...
                                                                                                    Very good question

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                                                                                                      • scardog
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                        • 886
                                                                                                        #426
                                                                                                        They aren't processing Visa's for me, but they are processing Mastercards.

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                                                                                                          • oldnewbie
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                            • 394
                                                                                                            #427
                                                                                                            Believe me, I am VERY unhappy with Ibill right now, but in all fairness:

                                                                                                            I just searched through this last weeks worth of credit card rebills in CMI and didn't find any Visa rebills. Only MC and Discover.

                                                                                                            And I also didn't find any Visa declines listed.

                                                                                                            I also have a theory on the Visa declines others are seeing. It's possible they made it past Ibill's current Visa ban because the decline was already in the works... You know how it usually tries 2 or 3 times, and says something like "rebill declined, will try again on [date]"... Perhaps the declines showing up are simply the ones that were scheduled to retry before Visa was taken out of the system and they just made it through a loophole and went ahead and retried when they were scheduled to.

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                                                                                                              • crazies
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                • 1491
                                                                                                                #428
                                                                                                                I received my US Revshare check today so it looks like they are coming through with their word.

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                                                                                                                  • sincity
                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                    • 111
                                                                                                                    #429
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                                                                    They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.
                                                                                                                    BOOBMASTER is a fucking liar. He wrote last night that he did not know that IBILL was not processing Visa. How can you not know they are not processing VISA when everyone on this board has been writing about it for the last 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                    Everyone on this board knows he is an asshole and he cannot be trusted.

                                                                                                                    IBILL has started to pay their US clients.

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                                                                                                                      • FaberX
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                        • 181
                                                                                                                        #430
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by sincity
                                                                                                                        IBILL has started to pay their US clients.
                                                                                                                        Do you mean their sponsored merchants or just the revsharers?

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                                                                                                                          • Jack76
                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                            • 43
                                                                                                                            #431
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by sincity
                                                                                                                            IBILL has started to pay their US clients.
                                                                                                                            And what about reserves?
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                                                                                                                              • CC
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                • 1690
                                                                                                                                #432
                                                                                                                                Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

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                                                                                                                                  • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                    Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 5862
                                                                                                                                    #433
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by CC
                                                                                                                                    Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was
                                                                                                                                    Wasn't she on Maternity leave?
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                                                                                                                                      • FaberX
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 181
                                                                                                                                        #434
                                                                                                                                        I don't think so, I spoke with her last Friday, she is (was?) my account rep, after I asked to have a new rep. My original rep was the biggest idiot at ibill, Jim Dunwoody, he's been deserving a pink slip for a long time. If Sylvia is gone, I'm gonna be really sad, she was one of the few nice ppl at ibill

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                                                                                                                                          • sincity
                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 111
                                                                                                                                            #435
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by FaberX
                                                                                                                                            Do you mean their sponsored merchants or just the revsharers?
                                                                                                                                            As I was reading this board I believe three people wrote that they received their Revshare check. I have not received any money.

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                                                                                                                                              • TheLegacy
                                                                                                                                                SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 18171
                                                                                                                                                #436
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by sincity
                                                                                                                                                As I was reading this board I believe three people wrote that they received their Revshare check. I have not received any money.
                                                                                                                                                hey sincity - there are alot of rumours around that IBill fired a chunk of their people - are you able to verify this?? and if so was it to get leaner or meaner
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                                                                                                                                                  • Gottis
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                    • 1746
                                                                                                                                                    #437
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by CC
                                                                                                                                                    Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was
                                                                                                                                                    Was this the email that bounced back?

                                                                                                                                                    Hello,

                                                                                                                                                    I have continued to receive and field the numerous calls and emails regarding our situation with First Data, delayed payments as well as our new processing solutions. Please visit http://cmi.ibill.com/ for the most recent updates.

                                                                                                                                                    For any general support issues, please contact iBill Client Services at 800-764-4266, 954-363-4949 or [email protected].

                                                                                                                                                    Regards,
                                                                                                                                                    xxxxx
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                                                                                                                                                      • keyboard warrior
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 1435
                                                                                                                                                        #438
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
                                                                                                                                                        Was this the email that bounced back?

                                                                                                                                                        Hello,

                                                                                                                                                        I have continued to receive and field the numerous calls and emails regarding our situation with First Data, delayed payments as well as our new processing solutions. Please visit http://cmi.ibill.com/ for the most recent updates.

                                                                                                                                                        For any general support issues, please contact iBill Client Services at 800-764-4266, 954-363-4949 or [email protected].

                                                                                                                                                        Regards,
                                                                                                                                                        xxxxx
                                                                                                                                                        Same bounce here:
                                                                                                                                                        - nothing here -

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                                                                                                                                                          • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 30174
                                                                                                                                                            #439
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by CC
                                                                                                                                                            Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired.
                                                                                                                                                            Am throwing a party.... Never got a straight answer from her. Kept Ibill for rebills only till Sharmaine got me back on board.

                                                                                                                                                            Now she is gne also
                                                                                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                              • boobmaster
                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 6185
                                                                                                                                                                #440
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by sincity
                                                                                                                                                                BOOBMASTER is a fucking liar. He wrote last night that he did not know that IBILL was not processing Visa. How can you not know they are not processing VISA when everyone on this board has been writing about it for the last 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                Everyone on this board knows he is an asshole and he cannot be trusted.

                                                                                                                                                                IBILL has started to pay their US clients.
                                                                                                                                                                Goddammit. Do you have to do your fucking pissing in every thread I post in? Wanna start some shit with me, let's take it to another thread.

                                                                                                                                                                PS - Keep saying shit about my cedibility, AND I WILL FLY UP TO NYC AND KICK YOUR FUCKING PUSSY ASS.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • boobmaster
                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 6185
                                                                                                                                                                    #441
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                    Very good question
                                                                                                                                                                    I sure am. Love me or hate me, I run three paysites with them and have been doing so for six years.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                        lurker
                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                        #442
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                                                                                                                        I sure am. Love me or hate me, I run three paysites with them and have been doing so for six years.
                                                                                                                                                                        I dont hate you, I dont know you. Based on what I know it seemed like a valid point. I never understood how anyone could hate someone from a forum. lol

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Xsentric
                                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 19
                                                                                                                                                                            #443
                                                                                                                                                                            Questions?!?!??! ..... How many employees were employed at the end of the day (October 12, 2004) @ iBill? How many dedicated employees with much tenure were told your position has been eliminated? Please await your new CMI News update - Beginning with - As you know we have been dealing with certain issues and we have once again reorganized our organization. In the effort of this restructure we regret to inform you..... (you fill in the blank)

                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks Internet Billing Company!

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                                                                                                                                                                              • keyboard warrior
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1435
                                                                                                                                                                                #444
                                                                                                                                                                                Click here to email MarkIBill
                                                                                                                                                                                Send MarkIBill a Private Message!
                                                                                                                                                                                - nothing here -

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • sincity
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 111
                                                                                                                                                                                    #445
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                                                                                                                                                    hey sincity - there are alot of rumours around that IBill fired a chunk of their people - are you able to verify this?? and if so was it to get leaner or meaner
                                                                                                                                                                                    They fired 40 people. Business is down so they had to cut costs. That is the bottom line and it just makes sense. I would do the same thing if I was in the same position.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • sincity
                                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 111
                                                                                                                                                                                        #446
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                        Goddammit. Do you have to do your fucking pissing in every thread I post in? Wanna start some shit with me, let's take it to another thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                        PS - Keep saying shit about my cedibility, AND I WILL FLY UP TO NYC AND KICK YOUR FUCKING PUSSY ASS.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Boobmaster...I told you last night I was waiting for you. Now stop telling me you are going to fly to NYC. JUST DO IT!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • sincity
                                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 111
                                                                                                                                                                                            #447
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Xsentric
                                                                                                                                                                                            Questions?!?!??! ..... How many employees were employed at the end of the day (October 12, 2004) @ iBill? How many dedicated employees with much tenure were told your position has been eliminated? Please await your new CMI News update - Beginning with - As you know we have been dealing with certain issues and we have once again reorganized our organization. In the effort of this restructure we regret to inform you..... (you fill in the blank)

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks Internet Billing Company!
                                                                                                                                                                                            I would say their are about 150 employees still working their.

                                                                                                                                                                                            They fired 40 employees so you can say they fired 40 dedicated employees.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Now answer this question:

                                                                                                                                                                                            1) If your business was not doing as well as the past couple of months and you knew that if you kept the same amount of employees on your payroll and you knew that next month for example you could not pay them would you still keep them?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • quiet
                                                                                                                                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 25115
                                                                                                                                                                                                #448
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by CC
                                                                                                                                                                                                Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was
                                                                                                                                                                                                she was my rep too. no wonder i never heard back from her lol. good times.
                                                                                                                                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • keyboard warrior
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1435
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #449
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                                                                                                                                    she was my rep too. no wonder i never heard back from her lol. good times.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I had her as well, then they bumped me to Kevin.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    - nothing here -

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • keyboard warrior
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1435
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #450
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Where is IBILLMark ????????????????????????????????/
                                                                                                                                                                                                        - nothing here -

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