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  • Lensman
    GFY Chaperone
    • Jan 2001
    • 9846
    #1

    Since Win XP SP2 disables all consoles - when are sponsors going to lower payouts?

    XP Service Pack 2 blocks all popups and between current users and new computer users, most people won't get popups anymore.

    So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

    Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.
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    • pornstar2pac
      Omaha Hi/Lo
      • Nov 2003
      • 17380
      #2
      Originally posted by Lensman
      So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

      Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.
      What ever you do Lensman, people will follow
      Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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        • http
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 1811
          #3
          Someone already suggested (to webmasters) to send googlebar and sp2 traqffic to console and only the rest to console-free. I guess it would be wise for sponsors to check surfers for sp2 and googlebar

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            • Easton
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2002
              • 9825
              #4
              interesting question... i think many will only have one flat (lower) payout soon... if they manage to pop an exit somehow, it will prolly be for the credit of the sponsor and not the affiliate
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                • Giorgio_Xo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 4263
                  #5
                  Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.
                  Make Levees, Not War

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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609
                      #6
                      I already have a popup built for sp2

                      Want some details have your guys contact me..
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                        • pimplink
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 9535
                          #7
                          It would be SMART for sponsors to MAKE the decision for themselves rather than let the MARKET (ie., their webmasters) make the decision for them.

                          The pay as you click model is also a good alternative.

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                            • Spunky
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                              • Jun 2002
                              • 133978
                              #8
                              More and more people are going with sp2 and pop up blockers.Probably lower payouts are inevitable ,that and perhaps pop ups may be a thing of the past

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                                • http
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 1811
                                  #9
                                  my fear is that a new can of traffic leaks and excessive cross sells will be opened to replace the dying console model.

                                  maybe we'll have different payouts for with/without traffic leaks

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                                    • Giorgio_Xo
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 4263
                                      #10
                                      My suggestions:

                                      1. Produce the best possible content.
                                      2. Cross sell into other programs you own, e.g. own two separate programs.
                                      3. Keep mailing.
                                      4. Own your own TGPs/MGPs network.
                                      5. Limit trial time access.
                                      6. Use a merchant account instead of third party billers to reduce costs.
                                      7. Along with several other large programs form your own bank so adult can deal directly with VISA and reduce costs.
                                      Make Levees, Not War

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                                        • pimplink
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 9535
                                          #11
                                          Maybe the answer to question lies in HOW MUCH of a PPS program's income comes from consoles?

                                          Maybe prorate it?

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                                            • BluMedia
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 3973
                                              #12
                                              We have never had more than one exit console and have never had any entry consoles so we won't be affected my the new update at all.

                                              Mark
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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 28609
                                                  #13
                                                  Dont throw in your chips just yet.

                                                  There are ways around sp2...

                                                  Quite a few infact..


                                                  Flash Overlays
                                                  Applets
                                                  and of course the good old regular console.
                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • JoeA
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 568
                                                      #14
                                                      Be thankful that you're not one in ten who the service pack2 creates the blue screen of death... I was unlucky and had to buy a new hd as I got fucked

                                                      Microsft even have a page now telling customers what servicepack2 can do to programmes... It stops Pinnaacle Studio 9 working properly as an example..

                                                      If anyone has sense they won't download it till the bugs are fixed
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                                                        • psyko514
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 22366
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                          Dont throw in your chips just yet.

                                                          There are ways around sp2...

                                                          Quite a few infact..


                                                          Flash Overlays
                                                          Applets
                                                          and of course the good old regular console.
                                                          do you think there will be an increase in activex installs?

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                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 28609
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by BluMedia
                                                              We have never had more than one exit console and have never had any entry consoles so we won't be affected my the new update at all.

                                                              Mark
                                                              Not directly , but maybe indirectly..

                                                              If your affilates are using you on a popup page, then you are affected , or if other sponsors use you as a sponsor in their own popups...
                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 28609
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                  do you think there will be an increase in activex installs?
                                                                  The messages are still very vague for the average internet user..

                                                                  I had this girl doing some reviewing for me the other day ( tgp reviews ) and i came back and she was all upset the computer was crashed and filled with spyware, i had only been gone for like 20 minutes.. so im like wtf did you do..

                                                                  She said , i was on this one gallery and it said CLICK HERE , then all these other boces kept popping up telling me to ckick here and click there then the computer rebooted a few times lol.. poor girl,, poor computer ... ( it will never forgive me )
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                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                      • 28609
                                                                      #18
                                                                      i think that was a yes..
                                                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                        • Lensman
                                                                          GFY Chaperone
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 9846
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                          Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.
                                                                          Not exactly

                                                                          http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

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                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 28609
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                              Not exactly

                                                                              http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np
                                                                              yes but your paid for those
                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                • pornstar2pac
                                                                                  Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 17380
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                  Not directly , but maybe indirectly..

                                                                                  If your affilates are using you on a popup page, then you are affected , or if other sponsors use you as a sponsor in their own popups...

                                                                                  good advice Lensman

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                                                                                    • Mr-No
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 698
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by JoeA
                                                                                      Be thankful that you're not one in ten who the service pack2 creates the blue screen of death... I was unlucky and had to buy a new hd as I got fucked

                                                                                      Microsft even have a page now telling customers what servicepack2 can do to programmes... It stops Pinnaacle Studio 9 working properly as an example..

                                                                                      If anyone has sense they won't download it till the bugs are fixed
                                                                                      Well, I have on my laptop sp2 and I use Studio9 on that comp without problems...
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                                                                                        • Eman - PG
                                                                                          PG Co-Boss
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 524
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                          Not exactly

                                                                                          http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

                                                                                          http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np&p=clean

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                                                                                            • Mutt
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 34431
                                                                                              #24
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                                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 28609
                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • corvette
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                      • 7880
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I hope nasty things do not begin to occur to keep the payouts stable.

                                                                                                      I know of at least one program that has made some significant changes, in both paysite structure and payouts, to be able to continue to evolve in the changing dynamics of this environment?very bold step
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                                                                                                        • pornstar2pac
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                          • 17380
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by corvett
                                                                                                          I hope nasty things do not begin to occur to keep the payouts stable.

                                                                                                          I know of at least one program that has made some significant changes, in both paysite structure and payouts, to be able to continue to evolve in the changing dynamics of this environment?very bold step
                                                                                                          I would take this post very serious folks
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                                                                                                            • extreme
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 2120
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              If SP2 in UserAgent string autoredir to popupfree linkcode of the same gallery/site?
                                                                                                              Last edited by extreme; 09-09-2004, 06:08 PM.

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                                                                                                                • corvette
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                  • 7880
                                                                                                                  #29
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                                                                                                                    • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                      The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                      • 6037
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                      Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.
                                                                                                                      The money is in retention. We'll also pay 35 dollars with no console if we are getting enough joins.
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                                                                                                                        • BlueQuartz
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                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                          • 1971
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          surely some smart guy will develop a way to pop consoles despite sp2 and popup blockers in general


                                                                                                                          afterall isnt it just a constant evolution of us vs them

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                                                                                                                            • Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                              • 4263
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                                              Not exactly

                                                                                                                              http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np
                                                                                                                              No console for me. Are you sure you don't have spyware?
                                                                                                                              Make Levees, Not War

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                                                                                                                                • hydro
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 4216
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  most sponsor's programmer's will be able to get around sp2 popup blocking.

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                                                                                                                                    • Brujah
                                                                                                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 22157
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I think this is why Alien posted his thread about SP2, someone else has a product they sell that bypasses it apparently.

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                                                                                                                                        • Tom_PMs
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 2049
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                                                          XP Service Pack 2 blocks all popups and between current users and new computer users, most people won't get popups anymore.

                                                                                                                                          So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

                                                                                                                                          Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.
                                                                                                                                          This is precisely what I spoke to my gf and partner about yesterday evening
                                                                                                                                          I said you may as well send to the console options before SP2 is widespread because sponsors wont be offering it before too long.

                                                                                                                                          Of course, tricky people could always have been detecting if a surfer had java enabled, then only sending people to console links if java was off. Also, sponsors could be checking if java was off and paying console free rates automagically too, lol.

                                                                                                                                          At any rate, handwriting on the wall no question. Need to set a variable if a console was able to be viewed or not.

                                                                                                                                          You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                                                                                                            • JSA Matt
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 5464
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                              Dont throw in your chips just yet.

                                                                                                                                              There are ways around sp2...

                                                                                                                                              Quite a few infact..


                                                                                                                                              Flash Overlays
                                                                                                                                              Applets
                                                                                                                                              and of course the good old regular console.
                                                                                                                                              all talk and no walk makes smokey a dull boy

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                                                                                                                                                • emthree
                                                                                                                                                  Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 10816
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by hydro
                                                                                                                                                  most sponsor's programmer's will be able to get around sp2 popup blocking.
                                                                                                                                                  Doubt it, a few will get it and the rest will follow.
                                                                                                                                                  They maybe skilled, but not in those areas.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 16015
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                      Dont throw in your chips just yet.

                                                                                                                                                      There are ways around sp2...

                                                                                                                                                      Quite a few infact..


                                                                                                                                                      Flash Overlays
                                                                                                                                                      Applets
                                                                                                                                                      and of course the good old regular console.
                                                                                                                                                      Don't forget opening a window directly from the DRM law window if you're using that on your video trailers ;)

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                                                                                                                                                        • Tom_PMs
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 2049
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          What about window.showModalDialog?

                                                                                                                                                          You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 13449
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                                                              Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.
                                                                                                                                                              Yes but they don't pay you for signups that cancel or credit within 4 hours of joining.
                                                                                                                                                              I've heard from some paysite owners that at least HALF of all new joins cancel before they ever see the members area.....so using that math you're getting $17.50 per signup.

                                                                                                                                                              sig too big

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                                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                                                                                  Yes but they don't pay you for signups that cancel or credit within 4 hours of joining.
                                                                                                                                                                  I've heard from some paysite owners that at least HALF of all new joins cancel before they ever see the members area.....so using that math you're getting $17.50 per signup.
                                                                                                                                                                  Well, but they are the biggest sponsor I think. So they cannot convert 2 times worse than other sponsors. If that was the case, they wouldn't be so big....

                                                                                                                                                                  Just my
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                                                                                                                                                                    • vospet
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 886
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      will have to wait and see.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                                          Programming King Pin
                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 27360
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman

                                                                                                                                                                          Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 30307
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              It Needs a catchy marketing term.

                                                                                                                                                                              Like:

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                                                                                                                                                                                • brand0n
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 26983
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                                                                                                                  What ever you do Lensman, people will follow
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • tranza
                                                                                                                                                                                      ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 57559
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                                                                                      Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Really? How well do they convert?
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • TheSenator
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 13330
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                          I already have a popup built for sp2

                                                                                                                                                                                          Want some details have your guys contact me..
                                                                                                                                                                                          Please, don't tell anybody. Keep it for yourself and make millions. because as soon as you sell it......Some ultra geek nerd wll post the exploit on Microsoft knowledge think tank and then Microsoft will issue a patch.


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                                                                                                                                                                                            • tranza
                                                                                                                                                                                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 57559
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                                                                                                                              Please, don't tell anybody. Keep it for yourself and make millions. because as soon as you sell it......Some ultra geek nerd wll post the exploit on Microsoft knowledge think tank and then Microsoft will issue a patch.


                                                                                                                                                                                              The code is worth at least 5 digits....don't take any less.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Lol... If you search real good I'm sure you'll find a few ways around SP2...
                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • TheSenator
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 13330
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lol... If you search real good I'm sure you'll find a few ways around SP2...
                                                                                                                                                                                                  whatever
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Really? How well do they convert?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Feel free to find out for yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I just recently signed up to them, but cumfiesta converst already great for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      NASTY DOLLARS

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks in advance, shoudl you decide to join them under me :D
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