Kerry's done for - Sinclair stations to air anti-Kerry film

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  • tony299
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    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #51
    Originally posted by benc
    I think this is a year people should just say screw it and vote for a 3rd party.

    I don't like Kerry. The things he did when he came back from Nam are disgraceful. The things he said in the senate, giving away his medals, giving the north motivation to do bad things to our pows, protesting with Jane Fonda. That is not conduct becoming of a commander in chief. He has continually been named the most liberal member of the senate. We need a moderate.

    A lot of Bush's policies I agree with, but I think we need to get away from fighting Israels wars. Everday americans shouldn't have to live in fear and die because the the arab world hates the jews.
    Bush gets another four yrs, he will pick a supreme court judge then we are very fucked. Know that.

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    • Peaches
      Old broad
      • Oct 2002
      • 13933

      #52
      Originally posted by tony404
      Thats very true ,but it wasnt presented on prime time commercial free. Also he backed up what he said it wasnt hearsay and people with a grudge..
      No one stopped him from making a TV movie instead of a theater movie. No one is stopping him from airing it on TV right now - except for his distributors. It's all about the Benjamins

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      • Rinaldo
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2003
        • 5086

        #53
        haven't seen any of the videos yet

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #54
          Originally posted by Peaches
          No one stopped him from making a TV movie instead of a theater movie. No one is stopping him from airing it on TV right now - except for his distributors. It's all about the Benjamins
          Your kidding right, this guy is telling his stations to air this instead of their regular programing commercial free. This isnt the movie of the week, the guy is a huge bush supporter.

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          • eroswebmaster
            March 1st, 2003
            • Jul 2001
            • 20295

            #55
            Originally posted by tony404
            Your kidding right, this guy is telling his stations to air this instead of their regular programing commercial free. This isnt the movie of the week, the guy is a huge bush supporter.
            Right...and "telling" is being kind...LOL He's demanding.
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            • Peaches
              Old broad
              • Oct 2002
              • 13933

              #56
              Originally posted by tony404
              Bush gets another four yrs, he will pick a supreme court judge then we are very fucked. Know that.
              The president doesn't get to "pick" a supreme court judge. They nominate them. The senate confirms or doesn't confirm them. 30% of the current senate is up for re-election in November. Voting for members of the senate who believe in what you believe in as far as a Supreme Court judge is a lot more important

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              • mardigras
                Bon temps!
                • Feb 2003
                • 14194

                #57
                THIS http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...y=SRTIGERFORCE is what Sinclair should run as well if they run Stolen Honor.

                The swiftboatvetsforcoverup are just pissed because John Kerry didn't keep his mouth shut. Attrocities did happen in Vietnam and there are still active investigations in to some of them and very potential prosecutions. Many years ago I saw someone's personal photos and the bodies in them weren't soldiers (this person wasn't responsible for what was depicted in the photos, he just snapped them).
                .

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                • Meta Ridley
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3433

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Peaches
                  No one stopped him from making a TV movie instead of a theater movie. No one is stopping him from airing it on TV right now - except for his distributors. It's all about the Benjamins



                  Are you serious or do you really not understand?
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                  • Peaches
                    Old broad
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 13933

                    #59
                    Originally posted by tony404
                    Your kidding right, this guy is telling his stations to air this instead of their regular programing commercial free. This isnt the movie of the week, the guy is a huge bush supporter.
                    Again, who is stopping F911 from being aired commercial free on network TV? Hint: It's not anyone associated with Bush.

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                    • Rinaldo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 5086

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Peaches
                      The president doesn't get to "pick" a supreme court judge. They nominate them. The senate confirms or doesn't confirm them. 30% of the current senate is up for re-election in November. Voting for members of the senate who believe in what you believe in as far as a Supreme Court judge is a lot more important
                      In polital science at any decent university in the US you'll learn that the senate is 5 times more powerful than the president. Sebate vote is the most important decision you can make

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                      • Meta Ridley
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3433

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Peaches
                        Again, who is stopping F911 from being aired commercial free on network TV? Hint: It's not anyone associated with Bush.

                        Most people don't stoop to such low levels. Some people respect the LAW and have morals.
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                        • Peaches
                          Old broad
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 13933

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Platinum Rinaldo
                          In polital science at any decent university in the US you'll learn that the senate is 5 times more powerful than the president. Sebate vote is the most important decision you can make
                          Yep. It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't realize that

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                          • Peaches
                            Old broad
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 13933

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Meta Ridley
                            Most people don't stoop to such low levels. Some people respect the LAW and have morals.
                            If it is against the LAW the FCC won't allow it to be aired.

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                            • stocktrader23
                              Let's do some business.
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 18781

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Peaches
                              No one stopped him from making a TV movie instead of a theater movie. No one is stopping him from airing it on TV right now - except for his distributors. It's all about the Benjamins
                              Wrong.

                              I personally don't care if they end up showing the movie or not and I'm pretty sure it's going to blow up in Bush's face. What concerns me is the fact that people like you compare Michael Moore / F911 to Sinclair wanting to air this on his stations.

                              First of all, Moore got funding to make his movie, worked to find a distributor, and went through the steps that anyone would when making a film. If Moore even talked his distributor into letting F911 air on national TV it wouldn't be the same. What do you think Moore is going to do, buy airtime with no commercials on an equal number of stations? No, if F911 were to air it would be just like any other movie with PAID ADVERTISERS covering the expenses and station owners pockets.

                              Sinclair on the other hand is wanting to bypass regular programming for the stations he owns and air it during prime time with NO COMMERCIALS. If you can't figure out how this is a completely different story then it's not my fault. Has anyone even figured out how much advertising revenue that will be given up if this goes through? I would imagine it's more than either Moore or the Kerry campaign could pay for equal air time if you even want to consider that as an option.

                              And on top of all that Sinclair wants to call this movie "news" to get around Federal law prohibiting him from airing it. Can you hear the anti Moore people screaming about him calling his movie "news"? The official site even recognizes "Stolen Honor" as a documentary. http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/background.asp

                              You people are hilarious. And aren't you the one that isn't voting for either candidate but instead has chosen to send your vote to one of the other 40 idiots on the ballot that have 0 chance of winning and every chance of swaying the election one way or another? Might as well stay home and do everyone a favor.
                              Last edited by stocktrader23; 10-12-2004, 08:58 AM.


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                              • stocktrader23
                                Let's do some business.
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 18781

                                #65
                                Right wingers always get my typing a lot.


                                And yes Peaches, I know you aren't right-wing, your conservative liberal or whatever.


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                                • Dead13
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 477

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by benc
                                  I think this is a year people should just say screw it and vote for a 3rd party.

                                  I don't like Kerry. The things he did when he came back from Nam are disgraceful. The things he said in the senate, giving away his medals, giving the north motivation to do bad things to our pows, protesting with Jane Fonda. That is not conduct becoming of a commander in chief. He has continually been named the most liberal member of the senate. We need a moderate.
                                  Are you aware that when Kerry came back from Vietnam he was widely considered by the American public to be a National Hero for what he was saying and for what he did. This has even been noted in Time Life and NBC News "Then and Now" documentaries about that time period. It was not until this election that ANYONE had anything negative to say about it. Now they SPIN the entire period to fit their needs when in fact most people, except the Nixon admin., thought Kerry was doing the right thing and they followed him.

                                  If you really want to look at the facts look at this. Congress used Kerry's testimony to change the course and their opinion of the Vietnam war.

                                  If anyone who believes this garbage had half a brain they would easily see that if CONGRESS decided to adopt Kerry's views on the war then it was an act of a good American soldier and citizen, not an act of Treason.

                                  NOW all of a sudden Kerry committed Treason? I don't think so!


                                  And if you believe Bush is a moderate, or even more moderate than Kerry, you should not even be allowed to vote!

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                                  • Tom_PMs
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                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 2049

                                    #67
                                    Yes the Senate is super important.

                                    Yes not showing 9/11 commercial free on broadcast television is a matter of money and distribution rights.

                                    No I'm not worried that this info-mercial will lose the election for Kerry.

                                    Staying on-topic, the problem is that Sinclair is trying to bend the laws by calling this "news" when it clearly isn't news.

                                    To make it legal, they simply need to offer the Kerry campaign equal time. As of now, they haven't done that, instead they're just pushing forward with their plans.

                                    Thats really the only issue at stake without it getting so clouded as to be useless.

                                    All they need to do is offer up equal time since it's clearly a one sided campaign commercial.

                                    You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                    • eroswebmaster
                                      March 1st, 2003
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 20295

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Dead13
                                      Are you aware that when Kerry came back from Vietnam he was widely considered by the American public to be a National Hero for what he was saying and for what he did. This has even been noted in Time Life and NBC News "Then and Now" documentaries about that time period. It was not until this election that ANYONE had anything negative to say about it. Now they SPIN the entire period to fit their needs when in fact most people, except the Nixon admin., thought Kerry was doing the right thing and they followed him.

                                      What's amazing is that most people now know that Vietnam was not a just war. It was not a war we should have been involved in...it was a war where a lot of things happened that should not have happened and people to this day are still suffering from their involvement in it.

                                      But yet because it suits them now they forget that.

                                      Our government has lied to us before, on numerous occassions..and will continue to even with Kerry in office...so to think that this administration couldn't be doing it now is just hiding your head in the sand so you can save a few $$$ on your taxes.
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                                      • Peaches
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 13933

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                        Yes the Senate is super important.

                                        Yes not showing 9/11 commercial free on broadcast television is a matter of money and distribution rights.

                                        No I'm not worried that this info-mercial will lose the election for Kerry.

                                        Staying on-topic, the problem is that Sinclair is trying to bend the laws by calling this "news" when it clearly isn't news.

                                        To make it legal, they simply need to offer the Kerry campaign equal time. As of now, they haven't done that, instead they're just pushing forward with their plans.

                                        Thats really the only issue at stake without it getting so clouded as to be useless.

                                        All they need to do is offer up equal time since it's clearly a one sided campaign commercial.
                                        Good post!!

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                                        • JustJen
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 1233

                                          #70
                                          I saw CNN about this last night. I signed it and sent emails to my local stations and Sen. McCain.


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                                          • SuckOnThis
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 6844

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by EpicJen
                                            I saw CNN about this last night. I signed it and sent emails to my local stations and Sen. McCain.

                                            McCain? You mean the Bush lackey for Arizona? Here's a guy that works to get Bush re-elected after Rove/Bush trash his military career and his wife and daughter. Good luck there.

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                                            • JustJen
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                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 1233

                                              #72
                                              The petition site suggested it as McCain criticized them in the past on their Niteline decision.


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