If you wanted to make $500 a day in this business, how would you go about doing it?

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  • sicone
    Retired
    • Jan 2004
    • 18453

    #51
    some actual good advice in this thread... I'm in shock


    50 people learning how to make money

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    • SBJ
      So Fucking Fabulous
      • Apr 2003
      • 11377

      #52
      Originally posted by FlyingIguana
      that doesn't exactly work in practice like it does in theory
      I think it does.. another thing about making several tgps or free sites is that with a good traffic trading script and know how you can build up your own traffic more by sending your surfers around your network and also increasing your chance of making a sale. I'm not just talking about CJing him to death either.

      You have a surfer on your tgp and he surfs 4 of your galleries not signing up for any but then gets skimmed to another one of your sites and signs up for one of the sites there..

      Who would you rather send the surfer to, another free site or another one of your free sites?

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      • FlyingIguana
        aspiring banker
        • Mar 2002
        • 10870

        #53
        Originally posted by Silent Bob Jedi
        I think it does.. another thing about making several tgps or free sites is that with a good traffic trading script and know how you can build up your own traffic more by sending your surfers around your network and also increasing your chance of making a sale. I'm not just talking about CJing him to death either.

        You have a surfer on your tgp and he surfs 4 of your galleries not signing up for any but then gets skimmed to another one of your sites and signs up for one of the sites there..

        Who would you rather send the surfer to, another free site or another one of your free sites?
        it also depends on how you make your money...

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        • clickhappy
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2004
          • 4027

          #54
          Originally posted by vivalaspam
          100 a day x 7 days in a week = 700
          compared to 500 a week.

          Is that quido math?
          no the question was about $500 a DAY, not week.
          I already do over 500 a week

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          • seven
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2002
            • 2697

            #55
            Originally posted by clickhappy
            net.
            got my own server and cash to spend.
            I've run around trying everything and buying traffic from all the big ones, but I just break even. I've hired gallery builders and submitters too and I've lost money on that. If I knew of a system that worked I'd work it, but everything I try is a dead end. I could give the freesites another whirl, although the time I tried them was pretty bad.
            When you start out it's best to learn everything yourself first. You do not hire gallery builders you learn to build galleries yourself first. Think about it.. if the builder you hired was so good why wouldn't he just build them for himself and hire someone to just submit them Would be much more money. So main thing is to know first what you doing. Same goes for the traffic, if you do not know what your are doing any traffic you get/buy will be wasted so if you pay for the traffic before learning the trade it's a bigger waste of money. Hire people ONLY after you got everything under control so the person you hire actually becomes a good investment.
            Toy Rev
            Rouge Web Design

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            • Rankings
              • Jan 2004
              • 10633

              #56
              thats because there is no money in this biz
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              • Sarma
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 715

                #57
                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                i'd have to fuck up a LOT of things to go down to that level
                I make up to $175 per sale, how about you? -> MoreNiche.com

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                • polish_aristocrat
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 40377

                  #58
                  Originally posted by juicylinks


                  Oops did i say cloacking?
                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                  • polish_aristocrat
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 40377

                    #59
                    Originally posted by seven
                    Do you mean $500 gross or $500 net? People on this board almost always talking gross
                    Lol, i don't think so.

                    When someone tells me he makes $5k per month, I always assume that is profit.

                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                    • polish_aristocrat
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 40377

                      #60
                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                      lol bookmarked.
                      Lol?

                      I don't think this thread is funny.

                      It's actually quite serious....
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                      • seven
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 2697

                        #61
                        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                        Lol, i don't think so.

                        When someone tells me he makes $5k per month, I always assume that is profit.

                        not sure if you are sarcastic in case you are not, quite the opposite.. ask him clearly about his net otherwise he's talking gross. Been in the biz 7 years now I have an idea about how much false bragging many do. Also, unless you can verify directly with their bank account/can view their credit history to see how much debt they carry/ get a notarized copy of their tax return or you're talking to a public corp (and unlike Enron ofcourse) you will never know how much of BS anyone's giving you vs how much real. Also, nobody would or should tell you how much they really make cos that should be private. Also, most that have their own proggy will inflate their earnings by approx 10x or give you such impression cos that's part of the marketing and then many will self-deceive by thinking gross and net same shit. Did you EVER hear ANY proggy say they have bad Conversion Ratio? So don't believe everything you hear (unless again, you were just sarcastic there)
                        Toy Rev
                        Rouge Web Design

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                        • TheMob
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8584

                          #62
                          Originally posted by juicylinks
                          diversify ,

                          tgp
                          free sites
                          SE Cloaking


                          Oops did i say cloacking?
                          there you said it again.. juicyy!

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                          • TheMob
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8584

                            #63
                            Originally posted by seven
                            not sure if you are sarcastic in case you are not, quite the opposite.. ask him clearly about his net otherwise he's talking gross. Been in the biz 7 years now I have an idea about how much false bragging many do. Also, unless you can verify directly with their bank account/can view their credit history to see how much debt they carry/ get a notarized copy of their tax return or you're talking to a public corp (and unlike Enron ofcourse) you will never know how much of BS anyone's giving you vs how much real. Also, nobody would or should tell you how much they really make cos that should be private. Also, most that have their own proggy will inflate their earnings by approx 10x or give you such impression cos that's part of the marketing and then many will self-deceive by thinking gross and net same shit. Did you EVER hear ANY proggy say they have bad Conversion Ratio? So don't believe everything you hear (unless again, you were just sarcastic there)
                            bullshit. i make 1000 dolllllaz a day!

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                            • FlyingIguana
                              aspiring banker
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 10870

                              #64
                              Originally posted by seven
                              When you start out it's best to learn everything yourself first. You do not hire gallery builders you learn to build galleries yourself first. Think about it.. if the builder you hired was so good why wouldn't he just build them for himself and hire someone to just submit them Would be much more money. So main thing is to know first what you doing. Same goes for the traffic, if you do not know what your are doing any traffic you get/buy will be wasted so if you pay for the traffic before learning the trade it's a bigger waste of money. Hire people ONLY after you got everything under control so the person you hire actually becomes a good investment.
                              you know, thats why i thought about trying to build a partnership with a designer. i can't design worth a damn so the synergies would be great. but it would be too much of a hassle.

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                              • seven
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 2697

                                #65
                                Originally posted by TheMob
                                bullshit. i make 1000 dolllllaz a day!
                                only 1000? Damn man! You must be doing something terribly wrong
                                Toy Rev
                                Rouge Web Design

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                                • polish_aristocrat
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 40377

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by seven
                                  not sure if you are sarcastic in case you are not, quite the opposite.. ask him clearly about his net otherwise he's talking gross. Been in the biz 7 years now I have an idea about how much false bragging many do. Also, unless you can verify directly with their bank account/can view their credit history to see how much debt they carry/ get a notarized copy of their tax return or you're talking to a public corp (and unlike Enron ofcourse) you will never know how much of BS anyone's giving you vs how much real. Also, nobody would or should tell you how much they really make cos that should be private. Also, most that have their own proggy will inflate their earnings by approx 10x or give you such impression cos that's part of the marketing and then many will self-deceive by thinking gross and net same shit. Did you EVER hear ANY proggy say they have bad Conversion Ratio? So don't believe everything you hear (unless again, you were just sarcastic there)
                                  Well, I wasn't being sarcastic.

                                  If someone spends $300 daily on AdWords and makes back $500, then he makes $200 daily profit, thus he makes $6k per month.

                                  He must be stupid to say "I make $15 k monthly in this biz".

                                  Sure, many affiliate programs and different webmasters exaggerate, post fake stats, fake money etc. But If I wanted to exaggerate I'd just say I make $50 k monthly or whatever. When i see someone on GFy saying "I made $7.5 last month", I always assume it's profit.

                                  BTW - I really don't understand the bullshit with fake stats, fake money, pretending you're a player. I think one must be a very insecure person to pretend here he is someone he really isn't , just to gain respect on a message board. And when an affiliate program says the convert at 1:200 and had a record month last month, then it is somethign different. That's just marketing and I am immune to it.
                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                  • pornguy
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 62910

                                    #67
                                    And dont pay attention to how many people are saying that they makes tons and tons of money.


                                    A lot of them just inflate their numbers to feel better about them sleves.
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                                    • seven
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 2697

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                      you know, thats why i thought about trying to build a partnership with a designer. i can't design worth a damn so the synergies would be great. but it would be too much of a hassle.
                                      You don't really have to be able to design like a pro when it comes to tgp galleries as the matter of fact, should be the other way. Try to keep your gallies a bit amateurish. TGP surfers don't want to see how well you can design they mainly want to see what kinda content you and your sponsor got. Just do some effective designs/texts so tgp surfers would click on your sponsor links that's all I feel like spamming our own board url here but will control lol.
                                      Toy Rev
                                      Rouge Web Design

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                                      • seven
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 2697

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                        BTW - I really don't understand the bullshit with fake stats, fake money, pretending you're a player. I think one must be a very insecure person to pretend here he is someone he really isn't , just to gain respect on a message board. And when an affiliate program says the convert at 1:200 and had a record month last month, then it is somethign different. That's just marketing and I am immune to it.
                                        well said unfortunately many (and I mean MANY) webmasters do that to
                                        feel better about them sleves.
                                        Toy Rev
                                        Rouge Web Design

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                                        • aaron
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 4452

                                          #70
                                          nice thread guys.. heh

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                                          • Manowar
                                            jellyfish  
                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 71528

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by SlutFinder
                                            na you said cloaking

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                                            • Sly
                                              Let's do some business!
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 31379

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by charly
                                              Very bad advise.

                                              Does Quiet hire out or shoot himself?

                                              Do I hire out, well employ actually, programmers or do it myself?

                                              Hiring out is good if it allows you to do what you are best at.
                                              You're comparing apples to oranges.

                                              This guy is buying galleries AND buying submission services. Bad idea. If he wants to get in the gallery submission game he needs to get his hands dirty.

                                              And quiet agreed with me in this very thread, maybe you should check your reading comprehension skills. Do you have somebody on staff to help you with that?
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                                              • Steen2
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 7662

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                buy and sell domains
                                                That's an easy place to burn huge money and make it fast.
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                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                  aspiring banker
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 10870

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by seven
                                                  You don't really have to be able to design like a pro when it comes to tgp galleries as the matter of fact, should be the other way. Try to keep your gallies a bit amateurish. TGP surfers don't want to see how well you can design they mainly want to see what kinda content you and your sponsor got. Just do some effective designs/texts so tgp surfers would click on your sponsor links that's all I feel like spamming our own board url here but will control lol.
                                                  its not just galleries where designs can help

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                                                  • seven
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                    • 2697

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                    its not just galleries where designs can help
                                                    my bad. thought you were talking about gallies too but yes, sure a designer could help in many ways but then again would probably be wiser to just pay him per project unless you have a huge proggy that demands a full-time designer as an employee
                                                    Toy Rev
                                                    Rouge Web Design

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