Originally posted by KarupLou thank you sir! I am happy that a few of us have good content on her. From what I hear she fucked over the dormbucks people. Granted thats just what I heard, but still. Bottom line: whoever's got it, lets cash in on it!
Lou
Your so evil..
I would never put a video out on anyone who didn't want it.
I would never put a video out on anyone who didn't want it.
What up Roger!
sorry I will miss you in Curacao, but I will meet you in LA in Nov and then Vegas in Jan!
I will call you soon and we can talk about when I can get the fuck down there. Its starting to get cold here and I need to hit a beach and party with your crazy ass!
Lou
Originally posted by PrivateIvy I'm not sure what your question is. TatianaWebcam.com is one of the sites in my network, yes, and I run it for one of my clients and have her model release on file . The site kicks ass in conversions and retention!
What was the question?
Ivy
I was just curious because I talked to Tatiana a couple weeks ago and she told me she's had nothing to do with the site for over four months. I probably wouldn't be promoting it if I'd known she hasn't been actively updating it with any new content.
"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Originally posted by Nanda I have to be honest and say that I can't beleive a 20 year old is willing to throw away what she like to do for a man! What the hell is going on with woman? She can easily find another man, he isn't the only fish in the sea!!
Mandy if he doesn't accept you for who you are he will NEVER accept you! He will always find a way to put you down, he will rub this in your face, you will never live up to his expectations!
Also, closing down you site like that and screwing over your members wasn't a very mature, responsible thing to do! I hope this doesn't come back and bite you in the ass!!
I am also glad that promoting you never crossed my mind!
I give her 6 months if that long.
In my life time I've seen so many people like her that I can't count them on my fingers and toes, people not even in porn .
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Originally posted by TaDoW If we make a video of an avid MidwestMandy member having sex with some printed out photos of her ... does that count as "hardcore" ?
This is certainly an interesting situation. Paid spots, submitted galleries and freesites (404 them now - when they are very new - and you risk getting blacklisted), a high potential for a large number of chargebacks from pissed off members...
I don't know much about Epoch's system but from what I understand they have individual affiliate accounts like ibill, rather than merged like ccbill. This means that the affiliate account will no longer generate any new revenue due to the site shutting down completely... so how do Epoch balance the funds on an affiliate account that goes negative due to chargebacks? It's all going to fall back onto the master account owner.
I don't really understand why she has shut down the site so abruptly. Dormbucks still have their midwestmandi site going (presumably by contract) so her face is not disappearing from the net anytime soon. It looks like she's done shoots for others too which would also have had a release signed.
She could have closed the affiliate program and stopped accepting new members, but still allow existing ones to remain until they get sick of the stagnant members area. It's still not an optimal solution for webmasters who have links up to the site but at least it means that recurring income on existing signups isn't slit by the throat, and there's less chance of a bunch of chargebacks...
I've only half read this thread so I'm sorry if any of this has been mentioned already.
Originally posted by kenny Yep, after this I don't think I will be promoting any single girl sites unless it's part of LightSpeed or something similar.
I say just look for the professional models, with or without a large sponsor program attached....those of us that have been around a while and have worked too hard in this business, on and off the net to ever be so unprofessional.
Originally posted by cosis dont know but taking a cumshot on the internet will come back to haunt her little decision
Funny thing is that I seen her 2 weeks ago when we took this picture. I asked her how she got into the industry and she said she did it to get back at her ex-boyfriend because he cheated on her and she caught him looking at porn so she was like "fuck you Im doing it". I then asked her if she had ever did any b/g and she was like hell no, I will never do b/g. Funny how these things do cum back to haunt you
Originally posted by Danny Dukes Funny thing is that I seen her 2 weeks ago when we took this picture. I asked her how she got into the industry and she said she did it to get back at her ex-boyfriend because he cheated on her and she caught him looking at porn so she was like "fuck you Im doing it". I then asked her if she had ever did any b/g and she was like hell no, I will never do b/g. Funny how these things do cum back to haunt you
Al sent me those pics and they were great!
However, that was a pretty shitty move, Mandy! All that because some chump comes back and steals your heart (again). Here's a hint: we all come back! It's called a booty call! He just wasn't getting any anywhere else so he came back to you. Guaranteed pussy is the best pussy. That's all!
Originally posted by KarupLou What up Roger!
sorry I will miss you in Curacao, but I will meet you in LA in Nov and then Vegas in Jan!
I will call you soon and we can talk about when I can get the fuck down there. Its starting to get cold here and I need to hit a beach and party with your crazy ass!
Lou
Originally posted by HighOnAcid Al sent me those pics and they were great!
However, that was a pretty shitty move, Mandy! All that because some chump comes back and steals your heart (again). Here's a hint: we all come back! It's called a booty call! He just wasn't getting any anywhere else so he came back to you. Guaranteed pussy is the best pussy. That's all!
Not that I'm a guy, (though uchase says I am, lol) but from my experience, you are 100% correct, and i gotta give you props for speaking the truth, no matter how bad it sounds, lol!
all that "promote me with this special content" bullshit and then she can't hack it!
i love it when this happens! it's great to see
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When I first entered this biz, I witnessed some amateur porn producers get mad when people started talking the business side of things with the talent.
I questioned them afterwards about it. They said, most of them are psychos and will freak out one day and decide they want all of the pictures taken down because their boyfriends end up finding them. Or the boyfriend will come knocking on their office doors and get violent. Usually the models know the url they are shooting for and they end up leaving a bookmark or it's in their cache. Boyfriends get nosey and find it.
After hearing that explaination, I understood how that side of shooting content works. Then over the years I've seen a few "talent" decide to try and run their own sites and programs. They still didn't get how the business works and ended up pissing off webmasters who tried to work their programs.
My heart goes out to Mandy because she's confused about what she wants in life and regrets doing what she did. My prediction is that she will break up with this boyfriend again and her "4 year degree" might not actually find her work in the real world. The first thing she'll think about doing once she needs the money and the boyfriend is gone is take her shirt off and start doing porn shoots. When she tries to become a site owner, she won't get approved from a processor due to past chargebacks and webmaster will never forget being screwed over.
So for Mandy's sake, I hope things really work out for her and she is happy. Hopefully she will never decide to come back to this biz as a site owner, being content will always be there for her should she need a few bucks. This sucks the most for the webmasters who are promoting her.
Everybody that's lived life to the fullest has done some crazy and extreme things in their life. So now Mandy can say she's been there, tried that, and she's moving on. Best of luck to you Mandy
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