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10-05-2005, 08:47 AM

This is the first time I have had to call someone out on GFY like this but I am upset! Now I understand that having a million pictures all over the net is just asking for people to steal them and use them for there own. Now when I contacted the above compnay they e-mailed me back telling me they had the licence to use my photos and that I work for them. If that isn't a bunch of made up shit I don't know what is. I know this is a buch of shit cause I own the rights to all my photo's and never would of give them to anyone. I have no clue what they are talking about I had never even heard of there company before this.

Here is the e-mail they sent me back after I contacted them as well as the screen shot from there site stealing my pictures!

From : Kateøina Hovorková <[email protected]>
Sent : Wednesday, October 5, 2005 7:01 AM
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Dear Melissa,
I m very sorry but we have licence for use your photos
because you work for us and you sign the agreement with us.
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10-05-2005, 09:01 AM

tell them to show u what agreement that they are saying u "signed"
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10-05-2005, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

tell them to show u what agreement that they are saying u "signed"

Yea I did but now they are not responding back to me e-mails! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 09:10 AM

Melissa the best you can do is send them and their hosting company a Cease and Desist legal notice. They're in Germany which makes it pointless to do much more than that - if their hosting company is in the U.S. i'm sure they'll get the thieves to take your pics down - if not, just forget about it unfortunately.

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10-05-2005, 09:12 AM

Met them in FL and they seemed alright, well they probably are thinking that they are outside of the US and they can get away with it.

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10-05-2005, 09:18 AM

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Met them in FL and they seemed alright, well they probably are thinking that they are outside of the US and they can get away with it.

Thats cool man. We are posting this message for people like you. Now you know the real side of them, and know not to do business with them. They are copyright thieves, and they don't care. If you do business with them and they had the opportunity to steal to profit for themselves, they would take it. This response just makes it seem obvious they knowingly steal content. To be honest, we are not real difficult people, they could've apologized, said it was a misunderstanding, and removed it completely. That would have been the last they heard about it. But they chose to lie and claim Melissa works for them, which couldn't be more far from the truth than possible. I would love to know what "agreement" they are talking about.

It's obvious from there response they can't even talk english either, and they sound russian.
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10-05-2005, 09:52 AM

Thanks Adam and if anyone knows who they are please tell them that what they are doing is shitty! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 09:58 AM

It IS possible that they bought content from someone who didn't have the right to SELL it, so they believe they do in fact own the content.

Just another possibility.
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10-05-2005, 10:01 AM

I'd like to see a reply from intermax.

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10-05-2005, 10:04 AM

Did you do cam shows on there network?
Do you know if there cam show model contract has a clause that allows them to use certain pictures for promotional material?
If it does it may be possible that some less attractive blonde cam girl swiped your pics to use in her profile ;)

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10-05-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

It IS possible that they bought content from someone who didn't have the right to SELL it, so they believe they do in fact own the content.

Just another possibility.

This is a possibility but by there response and now lack of response it doesn't seem like they really care! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by tapatio

Did you do cam shows on there network?
Do you know if there cam show model contract has a clause that allows them to use certain pictures for promotional material?
If it does it may be possible that some less attractive blonde cam girl swiped your pics to use in her profile ;)

No way! I run my shows through my own server I have never used a compnay for them in any way, shape or form. Melissa

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10-05-2005, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

Melissa the best you can do is send them and their hosting company a Cease and Desist legal notice. They're in Germany which makes it pointless to do much more than that - if their hosting company is in the U.S. i'm sure they'll get the thieves to take your pics down - if not, just forget about it unfortunately.

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10-05-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

It IS possible that they bought content from someone who didn't have the right to SELL it, so they believe they do in fact own the content.

Just another possibility.

sounds like the most feasible scenario....but still, they should be writing her back to get it resolved
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10-05-2005, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Dalai lama

I'd like to see a reply from intermax.

Yea me too looks like they will be in Vegas! Maybe they can show me the licence they have to use my photos when I walk up to there booth lol! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 11:31 AM

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I have some C&D letters you can use on them.

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10-05-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

It IS possible that they bought content from someone who didn't have the right to SELL it, so they believe they do in fact own the content.

Just another possibility.

possible - yes. likely - no. If it is true, this would be the first I have ever heard of it (that is someone selling our photos). The bottom line is there are tons of pics of melissa chatting on her laptop, after all we do 2 live shows every week. Very easy for them to take some of those pics and spit it out in an ad for their own site. Their response was very terse and short, they could've easily attached an agreement or a license instead of merely saying "we have a license." After all, we did send them a legitimate legal letter. Add in the fact of broken english and a Russian last name by the party signing off on the letter.. I highly doubt they have any license, authorize or non-authorized.

I also wonder about all their other girls in the promos, on the tours, and inside their members areas. Something small like this speaks volumes.
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10-05-2005, 01:30 PM

The4y owe me $9000 for content they used and never paid for.
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10-05-2005, 01:31 PM

Christian Bayer and his Father own the company. If my memory serves me his name is Norbert.
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10-05-2005, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Penrod

Christian Bayer and his Father own the company. If my memory serves me his name is Norbert.

Thanks for the info I will look into this a bit further! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 03:31 PM

melissa, this happens to me all the time. if the site isn't US-based, or isn't hosted in the US it seems that you're s.o.l. - most of the time i send an email and point out that my photos have been stolen for use on their website and that they're not authorised to use them and do they have legal information about the model in them to prove that she's over 18 ("she" being me) to try to intimidate them into removing the pics. if they're in the US i pretty much always hear back and the pics are taken down. if they're internationally based, i'd say 1/2 the time i hear back, the other 1/2 i don't. it's so frustrating!

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10-05-2005, 03:36 PM

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melissa, this happens to me all the time. if the site isn't US-based, or isn't hosted in the US it seems that you're s.o.l. - most of the time i send an email and point out that my photos have been stolen for use on their website and that they're not authorised to use them and do they have legal information about the model in them to prove that she's over 18 ("she" being me) to try to intimidate them into removing the pics. if they're in the US i pretty much always hear back and the pics are taken down. if they're internationally based, i'd say 1/2 the time i hear back, the other 1/2 i don't. it's so frustrating!

Could you not find someone in a foreign country to make the call for you, as your representative? I just find it hard to believe that they don't have their own copyright laws. I can see them ignoring an American citizen, but if someone from over there contacts them OR their hosting company with the threat of legal action from within their own country, I'd like to think some action would be taken.

Scenarios like this are why I'm not a model.

Yeah okay, it's not the ONLY reason, but still.
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10-05-2005, 04:12 PM

its not a USA based host good luck getting it taken down

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10-05-2005, 04:17 PM

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10-05-2005, 04:52 PM

Melissa I'm thinking if you e-mailed them from you domain name then maybe they would take you a little more seriously. For all they know...its just some random person e-mailing them from a hotmail account.

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10-05-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by tASSy

melissa, this happens to me all the time. if the site isn't US-based, or isn't hosted in the US it seems that you're s.o.l. - most of the time i send an email and point out that my photos have been stolen for use on their website and that they're not authorised to use them and do they have legal information about the model in them to prove that she's over 18 ("she" being me) to try to intimidate them into removing the pics. if they're in the US i pretty much always hear back and the pics are taken down. if they're internationally based, i'd say 1/2 the time i hear back, the other 1/2 i don't. it's so frustrating!

Yea it does get old! I find like 20 of these a week but most are not company's making money off me they are just people trying to pretend to be me on chat sites. Both are frustrating but to get an e-mail back from them saying that I work for them now this is another thing. I would of never posted this otherwise but that took it to a new level. Thanks for your post and for trying to help! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Young

Melissa I'm thinking if you e-mailed them from you domain name then maybe they would take you a little more seriously. For all they know...its just some random person e-mailing them from a hotmail account.

just a suggestion.

Thanks I just tried that so lets see if it helps! Melissa

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10-05-2005, 11:34 PM

Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.
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10-05-2005, 11:38 PM

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10-05-2005, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by HotChocolate

Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.

Somebody here is about to get verbally raped.

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10-05-2005, 11:41 PM

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Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.

Hahah, er, stfu dumb fuck.
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10-05-2005, 11:42 PM

6-chats.com sounds very familiar. I think they are a big operation in Europe. I know I 've ran accross their name before. There are several companies in Europe which regulate them. You might want to look into it.

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10-05-2005, 11:42 PM

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Somebody here is about to get verbally raped.

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10-05-2005, 11:43 PM

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Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.

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10-05-2005, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by HotChocolate

Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.

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10-05-2005, 11:50 PM

Blah Blah Blah! I'm just trying to get the point across! It's one fuckin picture. I see cry babies like this everyday. What are you gonna do? Sue them? They are in Germany and don't give a shit. Maybe they do have the right to that pic or some scammer sold them the right. Anyway I would STFU since a law suit will cost you more then that fuckin pic is worth and you won't win anyhting in Germany anyways.
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10-05-2005, 11:59 PM

I keep hearing all of this "the server's in another country, good luck" crap. Er, this isn't Java or Zaire we're talking about here! It's freaking Germany. It's the E.U. They have as strong or even stronger rules about this nonsense than the U.S. (You saw what the EU did to Microsoft!!)

So go after them same way you would here. Write the host and have them shut down. Wouldn't hurt if you get a translator and send the email in both English and in German.

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10-06-2005, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk

I keep hearing all of this "the server's in another country, good luck" crap. Er, this isn't Java or Zaire we're talking about here! It's freaking Germany. It's the E.U. They have as strong or even stronger rules about this nonsense than the U.S. (You saw what the EU did to Microsoft!!)

So go after them same way you would here. Write the host and have them shut down. Wouldn't hurt if you get a translator and send the email in both English and in German.

This is one pic of a "no name" model not Microsoft. It's basically not worth it to go after them. It will cost more then her fuckin pic is worth. She probably won't be modeling in a few months anyway.
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10-06-2005, 12:15 AM

My ignore list just grew.

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10-06-2005, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

It IS possible that they bought content from someone who didn't have the right to SELL it, so they believe they do in fact own the content.

Just another possibility.

Doesn't sound like the situation at all if they are claiming they own her rights because she works for them. Sounds like a confused support person who doesn't know english well and is just trying to brush her off a standard reply.

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10-06-2005, 01:49 AM

Response from Intermax

First of all I must emphasize that the flash banner in question was made by an external company and NOT by Intermax or any employees from Intermax.

Further to the above the banner in question has been removed from our system and will NEVER be used again!

I would also like to take this opportunity to apologize to Melissa for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We at Intermax pride ourselves for providing the best live streams available today and assure you it will continue that way.
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10-06-2005, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by RobMax

First of all I must emphasize that the flash banner in question was made by an external company and NOT by Intermax or any employees from Intermax.

Further to the above the banner in question has been removed from our system and will NEVER be used again!

I would also like to take this opportunity to apologize to Melissa for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We at Intermax pride ourselves for providing the best live streams available today and assure you it will continue that way.

See Melissa! No big deal! Now go back to suckin cocks on the internet.
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10-06-2005, 02:12 AM

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10-06-2005, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by HotChocolate

Chill out! It happens all the time and everyday. It's only a photo, not like their making millions from you. Wake up! Your Melissa Midwest not Paris Hilton.

Who the hell are you? Do you even work in the adult world? I have been here for almost 2 years and have a very sucessful business that I own myself. I make a lot of money and work my ass off everyday. You were right about one thing I may not be here too much longer but that's only becuase I almost have enough money saved so I never have to work again. Now who are you again? Melissa

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10-06-2005, 08:21 AM

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See Melissa! No big deal! Now go back to suckin cocks on the internet.

It must really make you mad that I a smart, sexy girl is doing her thing and making a ton of money doing it! Now what was it you do again?
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10-06-2005, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by RobMax

First of all I must emphasize that the flash banner in question was made by an external company and NOT by Intermax or any employees from Intermax.

Further to the above the banner in question has been removed from our system and will NEVER be used again!

I would also like to take this opportunity to apologize to Melissa for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We at Intermax pride ourselves for providing the best live streams available today and assure you it will continue that way.

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10-06-2005, 11:38 PM

I believe this case is now closed

Well first of all Madam you do not have a copyright on your home page Legally that means anyone can use your contant from your site from the date of registration to todays date! See below:

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Further more I don't understand what you are going on about with regard to images when they are freely available on google for all!

http://images.google.com/images?q=ME...=Search+Images

With regard to slandering companies without looking into the facts first is not normal practice!

You mentioned that you have bben in the business for 2 years WHOOPEEEE! If you want to up against very large companies who are worth millions and have many friends in the industry I wish you luck!

I believe this case is now closed and will not go further.
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10-06-2005, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by GFYNOW!

Further more I don't understand what you are going on about with regard to images when they are freely available on google for all!

http://images.google.com/images?q=ME...=Search+Images
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wow, in that case, i will start using this logo in all my ads

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10-06-2005, 11:57 PM

Melissa I have a very good friend in Nürnberg who has a big adult company.
If needs be hit me up in ICQ: 370820 and I'll get you in touch with him.
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10-06-2005, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by GFYNOW!

Well first of all Madam you do not have a copyright on your home page Legally that means anyone can use your contant from your site from the date of registration to todays date!.

there are copyrights all over her site moron

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