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  • GTS Mark
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    • Jan 2001
    • 20912

    #1

    How Much Is A Paysite Worth That Is Bringing in $18-20,000 A Month?

    If you were to buy it outright from the owner...

    3 months income, 6 months income, 1 year?

    Your thoughts?

    DH
  • stocktrader23
    Let's do some business.
    • Jan 2003
    • 18781

    #2
    You are asking the wrong crowd. ;)


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    • GTS Mark
      Vrume Mark
      • Jan 2001
      • 20912

      #3
      Originally posted by stocktrader23
      You are asking the wrong crowd. ;)
      hehe you never know, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt ;)

      DH

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      • datatank
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2004
        • 5471

        #4
        Originally posted by DrinkingHard
        If you were to buy it outright from the owner...

        3 months income, 6 months income, 1 year?

        Your thoughts?

        DH
        Processor?

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        • SlutFinder
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          #5
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          • the Shemp
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            • GTS Mark
              Vrume Mark
              • Jan 2001
              • 20912

              #7
              Originally posted by datatank
              Processor?
              Cascading processing with all the usual suspects

              DH

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              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                • Mar 2003
                • 30307

                #8
                Within this processing environment??

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                • GTS Mark
                  Vrume Mark
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 20912

                  #9
                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                  is it growing or dying? or stagnant?
                  Currently growing but not exponentially.

                  DH

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                  • datatank
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 5471

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                    Cascading processing with all the usual suspects

                    DH
                    Epoch / ccbill assume? Are there revshare payouts on either?

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                    • B-Eazy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1521

                      #11
                      In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.

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                      • Theo
                        HAL 9000
                        • May 2001
                        • 34515

                        #12
                        it depends on 100s factors, you know that. :-)

                        does it come with content? exclusive or not? Is there an established affiliates base or not?

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                        • quiet
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 25115

                          #13
                          everyone usually says 6 months or so. pretty hard to judge these days...
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                          • KRL
                            Entrepreneur
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 31429

                            #14
                            I've seen people value those types of deals as low as 3 months revs to 2 years revs and everything in between.
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                            • stocktrader23
                              Let's do some business.
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 18781

                              #15
                              Originally posted by B-Eazy
                              In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
                              3 words.

                              Bull Fucking Shit.


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                              • codymc12
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                                • May 2003
                                • 719

                                #16
                                I would base it on a few factors:

                                A. Statistically proven retention. In other words, how long would it make that 18 - 20k with no new traffic.

                                B. What traffic it brings with it. EG - are you going to continue to get signups without providing traffic yourself? If so, how much, and factored into (A)

                                C. Content costs.

                                D. Statistically proven conversion ratios. If you are going to supply traffic, how will it convert based on past provable stats?

                                IMO, those would be the base factors.

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                                • stocktrader23
                                  Let's do some business.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 18781

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                  I've seen people value those types of deals as low as 3 months revs to 2 years revs and everything in between.
                                  That's what happens when everyone with 0 business experience opens a site.


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                                  • Sly
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                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 31380

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by B-Eazy
                                    In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
                                    In any business? What? Are you smoking a new kind of drug?
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                                    • Drake
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 12508

                                      #19
                                      Is that Gross or Net?

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                                      • KRL
                                        Entrepreneur
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 31429

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by B-Eazy
                                        In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
                                        Are you nuts?

                                        You'd have to be pretty desparate and plain stupid to sell a biz for 3 month's earnings, unless it was a dog with fleas about to go under and you're trying to do a bailout.
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                                        • GTS Mark
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 20912

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                          it depends on 100s factors, you know that. :-)

                                          does it come with content? exclusive or not? Is there an established affiliates base or not?
                                          hehe, yep it comes with content, it's not exclusive. There are 100+ affiliates but as you all know only 5-10% of people who ever sign up actually send any traffic ;)

                                          The 18-20k per month is net not gross.

                                          DH

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                                          • GTS Mark
                                            Vrume Mark
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 20912

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                            Are you nuts?

                                            You'd have to be pretty desparate and plain stupid to sell a biz for 3 month's earnings, unless it was a dog with fleas about to go under and you're trying to do a bailout.
                                            hehe I hate to agree but KRL is right ;)

                                            DH

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                                            • datatank
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 5471

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by quiet
                                              everyone usually says 6 months or so. pretty hard to judge these days...

                                              Did you get a wire today? Are you with ibill Eu? Do you have a solution to move forward with Ibill?

                                              Sorry for 20 questions

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                                              • Shoehorn!
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                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 22872

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                If you were to buy it outright from the owner...

                                                3 months income, 6 months income, 1 year?

                                                Your thoughts?

                                                DH
                                                Depends on who you ask.

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                                                • GTS Mark
                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 20912

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
                                                  Depends on who you ask.
                                                  Hehe well I am asking YOU! LOL!

                                                  DH

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                                                  • stocktrader23
                                                    Let's do some business.
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 18781

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                    Are you nuts?

                                                    You'd have to be pretty desparate and plain stupid to sell a biz for 3 month's earnings, unless it was a dog with fleas about to go under and you're trying to do a bailout.
                                                    Bull Fucking Shit. was so much easier to type KRL. ;)


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                                                    • SleazyDream
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                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 41470

                                                      #27
                                                      insurance businesses usually went for 1-3 years earnings - gross
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                                                      • quiet
                                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                        • 25115

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by datatank
                                                        Did you get a wire today? Are you with ibill Eu? Do you have a solution to move forward with Ibill?

                                                        Sorry for 20 questions
                                                        yeah i got a wire. yeah, i'm ibill eu. that's all i have to say about it
                                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                        • GTS Mark
                                                          Vrume Mark
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 20912

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                          insurance businesses usually went for 1-3 years earnings - gross
                                                          Damn rich insurance mofos!

                                                          DH

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                                                          • stocktrader23
                                                            Let's do some business.
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 18781

                                                            #30
                                                            $120,000 to $150,000.


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                                                            • EscortBiz
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                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 19422

                                                              #31
                                                              depends how desperate the owner is

                                                              what type of site it is

                                                              how the traffic at the moment is being generated

                                                              what exactly did it do the past 6 months did it go up month after month or down

                                                              anywhere from 3 months for a real desperate guy to 2 years

                                                              usally if a guy says "how soon can you close the deal and could you pay all at once" pretty much my offer is 3 - 6 months and if everything checks out I guarantee the cash within 24 hours

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                                                              • Drake
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                                                                • 12508

                                                                #32
                                                                3-6 months sounds reasonable, depening on if it's revshare or not. This biz is too unsteady for more, unless it's a killer site with amazing content, which you said it's not.

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                                                                • datatank
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 5471

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by quiet
                                                                  yeah i got a wire. yeah, i'm ibill eu. that's all i have to say about it
                                                                  THANK YOU for your reply

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                                                                  • strobi
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                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 7383

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by B-Eazy
                                                                    In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
                                                                    3 months? yeah yeah

                                                                    I'll buy it for 60K$ right on the spot. (with some info that is)

                                                                    I would say 1 year? but it depends on so many factors.

                                                                    CashCows are seldomly sold.

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                                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 18781

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                      $120,000 to $150,000.
                                                                      ^^^^^Not a desperation price^^^^^


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                                                                      • GTS Mark
                                                                        Vrume Mark
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 20912

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Background, the owner is not in a rush to sell but would like to sell and put the money into another project.

                                                                        He's not hard up for money (unfortunately)

                                                                        DH

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                                                                        • TheJimmy
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                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 10747

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by quiet
                                                                          everyone usually says 6 months or so. pretty hard to judge these days...


                                                                          good rule of thumb I'm thinking....


                                                                          with all the other factors mentioned in this thread to be considered...


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                                                                          • Kard63
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                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 8944

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I wouldnt want to invest a lot in non-exclusive.

                                                                            I'd pay break even in 9 months. If the net is $5k/month offer $45k.

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                                                                            • EscortBiz
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                              Background, the owner is not in a rush to sell but would like to sell and put the money into another project.

                                                                              He's not hard up for money (unfortunately)

                                                                              DH
                                                                              then if he takes less then 6 months you should be scared

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                                                                              • GTS Mark
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                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 20912

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by strobi


                                                                                CashCows are seldomly sold.
                                                                                In this day and age how long is a cash cow going to last?

                                                                                That is the question anyone in the adult market making big money has to ask him/her self. Are they at the peak of their business and is now the best time to sell so they will secure the best price they will be able to get for their business.

                                                                                DH

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                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                  • 107089

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by B-Eazy
                                                                                  In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
                                                                                  you are a dreamer

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                                                                                  • EscortBiz
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                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 19422

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                    In this day and age how long is a cash cow going to last?

                                                                                    That is the question anyone in the adult market making big money has to ask him/her self. Are they at the peak of their business and is now the best time to sell so they will secure the best price they will be able to get for their business.

                                                                                    DH
                                                                                    if you run a legit ship, no bullshit billing and bullshit content there is no reason to worry about anything

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                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I am brokering the sale of a rather large paysite, it has been around since 1998, there are no affiliates. He is looking for about 18 months net + $25k for name recognition and marketing.

                                                                                      Does the site in question have an affiliate program? How long has it been around? Scripts? What is the niche? How much SE traffic?

                                                                                      Lots of factors involved.


                                                                                      I would say offhand that if you can pick it up for 1 year net, should consider it if you can afford it

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                                                                                      • EscortBiz
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                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 19422

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                        I am brokering the sale of a rather large paysite, it has been around since 1998, there are no affiliates. He is looking for about 18 months net + $25k for name recognition and marketing.

                                                                                        Does the site in question have an affiliate program? How long has it been around? Scripts? What is the niche? How much SE traffic?

                                                                                        Lots of factors involved.


                                                                                        I would say offhand that if you can pick it up for 1 year net, should consider it if you can afford it
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                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 107089

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                          $120,000 to $150,000.
                                                                                          no one is going to sell it for 6 months net. What would be the point?

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                                                                                          • stocktrader23
                                                                                            Let's do some business.
                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                            • 18781

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                            no one is going to sell it for 6 months net. What would be the point?
                                                                                            Nobody would sell a site that just sits there and makes $20,000 a month for 6 months net. However a site based on non-exclusive content, affiliates, and porn isn't just going to sit there. I'd be more interested in looking at the site you are brokering at 18 months net and 0 affiliates than that one.


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                                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                              • 107089

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                              email me im in a buying mode

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                                                                                              • harvey
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                                                                                                • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by B-Eazy
                                                                                                In any business that you buy, the costs usually gets decided by monthly income X 3 months.
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                                                                                                • Gynecologist
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                                                                                                  • Sep 2004
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                  3 words.

                                                                                                  Bull Fucking Shit.
                                                                                                  I agree, a lot longer than 3 months.

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                                                                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32492

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                    Background, the owner is not in a rush to sell but would like to sell and put the money into another project.

                                                                                                    He's not hard up for money (unfortunately)

                                                                                                    DH
                                                                                                    This guy sounds like a jerk DH.

                                                                                                    lol ;)

                                                                                                    Duke

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