Originally posted by uno I think they are both doing an amazing job. This last half hour of the debate Edwards has gotten really comfortable and into his zone.
I agree how can anyone award a winner when its still not over. It will be very close none of them is really pulling apart from each other.
dick cheney is a smart muthafucka...thats why he's VP and gonna be VP for 4 more years...kerry and edwards are doing a good job...but it aint good enough...
Originally posted by Alltopnotch dick cheney is a smart muthafucka...thats why he's VP and gonna be VP for 4 more years...kerry and edwards are doing a good job...but it aint good enough...
Yes he is smart and he should be he has a lot of experience. But with that experience comes the art of BS and the spin just like any politician. Edwards hung in there well considering he is green next to Cheney.
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In my opinion Cheney did very well, Edwards did very well. I was expecting a big win, but I didn't know who it would go to because they're so different, I thought it depended on the tone of the debate. Turns out I was wrong, both did extremely well and I don't think many votes will change over it.
Fuck, every time I hear Cheney talk for a long period of time I start thinking "oh man he's a pretty good guy, he knows what he's talking about". lol, it sucks, I know the horrible things he's done but I can't help it. To regain my senses I have to go and re-read some of his actual policy.
Originally posted by Rich In my opinion Cheney did very well, Edwards did very well. I was expecting a big win, but I didn't know who it would go to because they're so different, I thought it depended on the tone of the debate. Turns out I was wrong, both did extremely well and I don't think many votes will change over it.
Fuck, every time I hear Cheney talk for a long period of time I start thinking "oh man he's a pretty good guy, he knows what he's talking about". lol, it sucks, I know the horrible things he's done but I can't help it. To regain my senses I have to go and re-read some of his actual policy.
Can anyone else find the polls on the major news network websites? How lame, seems like they're not doing them anymore since last time they actually represented the voice of the people, instead of the voice of the networks.
I think while Edwards never landed a knockout blow he stood toe to toe with the man and won because of facts. I honestly can not believe anything that spews out of Dick cheney's mouth, he is more full of shit than Bush.
I think while Edwards never landed a knockout blow he stood toe to toe with the man and won because of facts. I honestly can not believe anything that spews out of Dick cheney's mouth, he is more full of shit than Bush.
Right on, thanks for the links.
Those numbers actually surprise me, I guess more people realized that Cheney was lying than I thought. If you didn't know ANYTHING about reality going in to this debate, it was pretty much a draw.
Originally posted by Rich Right on, thanks for the links.
Those numbers actually surprise me, I guess more people realized that Cheney was lying than I thought. If you didn't know ANYTHING about reality going in to this debate, it was pretty much a draw.
Shocked me too, especially since I am listening to Chris Matthews suck Cheney's dick right now.
I can't believe this idiot will not even pay attention to his own poll. I usually have a great deal of respect for Chris, tonight though he is blowing it bad.
"Senator, I'm the President of the Senate. I sit in on the Senate. In the last 4 years that I've been there, here, tonight, on this stage, is the first time I've ever met you."
"You ShowBoy. You no ProblemWorker. Naaaa. You numba 10."
"Senator, I'm the President of the Senate. I sit in on the Senate. In the last 4 years that I've been there, here, tonight, on this stage, is the first time I've ever met you."
"You ShowBoy. You no ProblemWorker. Naaaa. You numba 10."
for me the best part was after the debate on ABC they showed Cheney saying in the debate that he never said thier was a connection between Saddam and 9/11 then they showed footage of him on meet the press from about a year ago saying that there was a connection.
Originally posted by DonovanPhillips I'm watching a re-broadcast right now and I think both candidates are handling themselves well. Cheney is tough to beat. He seems to be a machine.
The longer I watch this the more I see Cheney kicking ass. Unfortunately.
Look at the polls by VOTERS not pundits. Edwards by a landslide. even polls on San Antonio and Houston newspapers have Edwards at over 90% Tampa Tribune a place where Bush WON in 2000. Over 80% Edwards. VOTERS opinions matter even if they are "wrong"
"Senator, I'm the President of the Senate. I sit in on the Senate. In the last 4 years that I've been there, here, tonight, on this stage, is the first time I've ever met you."
"You ShowBoy. You no ProblemWorker. Naaaa. You numba 10."
KO
while I was distracted trying to figure out why my nic card was no longer being recognized, I did hear that, and said "that is going to leave a mark."
I have to say, that even though I was not able to pay attention to it, I did expect to come hear and see everyone saying Cheney got owned. So he must have done pretty well.
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