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  • European Lee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7133

    #1

    If Traffic Is King Then Why Dont..

    More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

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    Lee
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  • AndrewKanuck
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2004
    • 6706

    #2
    Originally posted by European Lee
    More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

    Regards,

    Lee
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    • Jakke PNG
      ex-TeenGodFather
      • Nov 2001
      • 20306

      #3
      As far as I know, they do have. Choker was asking for stuff related to paysites not too long ago, and I believe others have too.
      ..and I'm off.

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      • johndoebob
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2004
        • 3405

        #4
        Content is king for target traffic, traded traffic isn't king, you can just milk it through huge daily amounts that are passing through your sites.

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        • Doc911
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 3695

          #5
          Most TGP owners have pay sites and or merchadise sites.


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          • juicylinks
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 122992

            #6
            Lee is a fruit

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            • European Lee
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 7133

              #7
              Originally posted by juicylinks
              Lee is a fruit
              Hey man hows momma Juice doing?

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              Lee
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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #8
                Originally posted by European Lee
                More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

                Regards,

                Lee
                Some of them do and some them don't, very good point though.
                Last edited by Paul Markham; 10-02-2004, 01:02 PM.



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                • pornguy
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 62910

                  #9
                  I have both. about 16 pay sites and 2 tgp sites.
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                  • SleazyDream
                    I'm here for SPORT
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 41470

                    #10
                    Originally posted by European Lee
                    More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

                    Regards,

                    Lee
                    if you HAD a clue you'd know most big ones do.
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                    • GTS Mark
                      Vrume Mark
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 20912

                      #11
                      I have a network of deluxepass sites, I wanted to get my feet wet with this kind of paysite management before I invested big bucks into a paysite operation.

                      DH

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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #12
                        Business is about getting three elements right.

                        Product, Delivery and Marketing.

                        In this case;

                        Content = What is inside the site.

                        Delivery = Site design, structure, program.

                        Marketing - Traffic, surfers to see your site.

                        For me traffic is King, I have all the content I need and can deliver it. I need TRAFFIC. This also applies to people like Quiet and Lightspeed.

                        Fro a TGP site owner thinking of opening a paysite Content is King, he has his traffic now he needs to show them something. For both of us delivery is important.

                        But for a webmaster (I use this as an example) who has been driving traffic for a few years and has his own content, Delivery is King. He may be use to showing one page he now has to show a site.

                        Some will tell you one is ALWAYS King and use as an example, if you had great A and no B, you would not make a sign up. Well that is true, so I use A & B.

                        Or if you have great A and crap C you will still make money, true but how much more will you make by having great A, B & C?



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                        • fris
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 55807

                          #13
                          Maybe they do, you just dont know about it


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                          • KRL
                            Entrepreneur
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 31429

                            #14
                            Its real easy Lee. Some people don't like to work and deal with all the hassles or operating sites.

                            Its easier to just do a deal and be done with it and get a check.

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                            • Meloman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 1540

                              #15
                              Paysites can have a lot of overhead. I've always found it easier and more profitabable for me to just sell my traffic to affiliate programs.

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                              • Rich
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11486

                                #16
                                Not everyone who is great at generating traffic is great an creating and maintaining paysites. You have to focus on your strengths. If you're a traffic pro but have no experience running paysites, you're probably better off using good sponsors and concentrating your time on generating more traffic.

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                                • the Shemp
                                  congrats to the winners
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 10891

                                  #17
                                  - our best traffic goes to our own sites and the prepaid advertisers
                                  - after that it goes to the affiliate type programs
                                  - then whats left over, we sell off to the brokers, who resell it to the newbie webmasters ;)
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                                  • RicardoB
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 2576

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by European Lee
                                    More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

                                    Regards,

                                    Lee
                                    Because we don't need the hassle that comes with a paysite?

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                                    • ListYourPorn
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 791

                                      #19
                                      Very interesting thread,

                                      I have a LL which takes around 10K (+/- 1000) visits per day.

                                      I have started selling spots to people as to be frank they can make better pages then me - by this they have sussed the way of the web. So for me its better to sell the space I would otherwise have a sponsor link.

                                      Most of my income is generated from payment processing business I place with partners and banks. I only started a LL to learn how adult WM's and programes work etc and never once exspected to auctually sell something.

                                      Markhan is right is about focusing on what you can do, how many of us have spent 2/3 days trying to do something which a guy on this board could have done in an hour for $100.

                                      What I would like in the long term is a paysite though from speaking with 100's of WM over the years many say its a lot of work for the return and indeed many have just sold off their paysites and moved over to products.

                                      My focus going forward is going to be selling space on my hub and finding unhappy people who wish to ditch their processor.



                                      good thread / post EU Lee


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                                      • Basic_man
                                        Programming King Pin
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 27360

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by juicylinks
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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942

                                          #21
                                          Here's another question

                                          I the traffic from TGP sites was so good why doesn't the site owner just sign up as a sponsor fill the free part with his own pages?

                                          No cheaters, complete control over whats published and he earns money from his own free links.



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                                          • KCat
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 2204

                                            #22
                                            Great points have already been made so far, but I would add that some don't want the hassle of maintaining a paysite. Much easier to take the $35 sale & not worry about shooting or contracting exclusive content, updates, tech support for members etc.

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                                            • Thor
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 721

                                              #23
                                              they do

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                                              • FlyingIguana
                                                aspiring banker
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 10870

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by charly
                                                Here's another question

                                                I the traffic from TGP sites was so good why doesn't the site owner just sign up as a sponsor fill the free part with his own pages?

                                                No cheaters, complete control over whats published and he earns money from his own free links.
                                                its not his strength, plus less variety for surfers.

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                  its not his strength, plus less variety for surfers.
                                                  well it's not brain surgery and I assume he would know something about it, running a TGP page.

                                                  Who says the site has to be 100% his links?



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                                                  • FlyingIguana
                                                    aspiring banker
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 10870

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by charly
                                                    well it's not brain surgery and I assume he would know something about it, running a TGP page.

                                                    Who says the site has to be 100% his links?
                                                    sure its not hard but he might only be able to make a certain amount building his own pages whereas he could sell those spots for more to others who can convert better for whatever reason.

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                                                    • arg
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 1164

                                                      #27
                                                      The owner of sublimedirectory, sublimethumbs & teeniefiles has a few paysites. Same with bangthumbs' owner.

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