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  • galleryseek
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 8234
    #1

    A good ol' SEO question!

    i posted this on webmasterworld but i'm too impatient to wait for a response... i'm new to this SEO shit

    Say for example I want to reach the top result in google for the keyword "apple cider"

    So I make a page with that title specifically, i base the whole page around that one article along with the meta tags, and the link density is perfect n' everything is good to go...

    How far will THAT ALONE get me in the results for that keyword? I know there are other factors, like how many in-bound links from other sites are linking to that particular page, and how many the site has in general...

    but say the Top 2 results have PR6's on that specific page alone, will I need a PR6 on my document to compete? Will I need to match or exceed the amount of in-bound links they have both to their domain and that specific page?

    Say for example my on-page optimization happens to be better than the top 2 results, but I only have a PR5 and they have PR6, will I make it above them? or no.

    Basically I'm just wondering if there's any type of conclusive data that suggests the relevance and importance of these different aspects over one another when it concerns result placement.

    Thanks..
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    • Fake Nick
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 7708
      #2
      all that matters is backlinks

      have 100 sites link your site with the keywords "apple cider" and you will probably be in the top 10

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        • RightHandMan
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 1694
          #3
          Probably the single most important factor in determining SE ranking is the inbound links....if your site is linked by a slew of others and linked "relevant to topic" then your PR WILL increase as well as your ranking.

          Ill try to explain a bit as to how Rankings are generated in overly simplistic terms....

          The robot that crawls the web registers how many times it is directed to your site following links on other sites. It weighs the value of the link by how many other links are on the page, and by the page's rank itself....

          A link to your site from a page with a PR of 7 is better than 3 links from 3 pages with a PR of 3. Understand that?

          Bottom line:
          You could have a site detailing EVERYTHING about Apple Cider. The most indepth and informative by 10 times on the net....The meta tags and description perfect...and blah....

          The ONE thing that will make your site shine in the SE rankings is how many other sites link to you and what the "weight" of those links are...

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            • chupachups
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 6576
              #4
              Originally posted by Fake Nick
              all that matters is backlinks

              have 100 sites link your site with the keywords "apple cider" and you will probably be in the top 10
              Yupp, some with high PR and you´ll be there.

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                • chowda
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9527
                  #5
                  mmmmm
                  good ol internal links.
                  Someone finds you...
                  2007

                  PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089
                      #6
                      Originally posted by chowda
                      mmmmm
                      good ol internal links.
                      best answer so far

                      go check out AdultSEM.com for some easy to understand articles and tutorials

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                        • tonkagunner
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 830
                          #7
                          read some SEO books.
                          Traffic Cash Gold

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                            • galleryseek
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 8234
                              #8
                              thx for the responses...

                              i'm sure there are those who are into this very much, is it possible to actually *know* exactly what you need to do to beat the competition down to specific numbers based on competitor analysis in order to beat them in the rankings? or does the world of SEO and how it works change too much to really have any concrete data to evaluate competition on?

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                                • chowda
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 9527
                                  #9
                                  there's only so much u can reverse engineer.
                                  Someone finds you...
                                  2007

                                  PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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