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Old 09-16-2005, 02:35 PM  
Libertine
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Originally Posted by ChevyBalls
Sorry, you didn't prove anything. Except that you can't debate without throwing insults around! Must make you feel so manly.

Yea, you're probably right. Democracy in the Middle East is no threat to their current holds on power, since they already hold free and honest elections. And the people in those countries you listed have full human rights to all individuals. Including free speech!

It wouldn't take balls for someone in Iran to protest the government openly, now would it?

Talking with you is like trying to teach a brick the fundamentals of propositional logic...

You are missing the point entirely. No, most countries in the ME don't have democracy, and most violate human rights on a daily basis. Both those who side with the US and those who are against it. That is entirely true, and completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Educate yourself on these matters if you want to talk about them. Otherwise, you will look like as big a fool as you do now. Here's a little start for you:

There are many factions in the ME, all fighting for power. They all have their respective goals (dictatorship, Shia theocracy, Sunni dominance, a restoration of "traditional values", their own country, etc), and are willing to fight for them. Most of them hate the US, but most hate their local competitors just as much as they hate the west. Furthermore, most people in the ME don't support "western democracy". They're uneducated hicks like yourself, and have no clue as to what "the west" actually is. They believe the US secretly wants to kill all arabs and hand over the ME to the Israeli devils, and will fight any western influence by any means possible. Meanwhile, the common folk want peace, stability and prosperity, but they are by no means convinced that western-style democracy will bring that.
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