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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204
    #1

    I worked with 3 outsource companies now

    1 dissapeared with my money
    1 Returned me my money after i asked for it
    1 did their job (gallery submitting)

    Needless to say i wont deal with any outsource company anymore.

    The misscommunications drive me nuts. The lack of english, the lack of knowledge and the lack of knowing how to do business drive me nuts as well.

    Tip for everybody: Spend a few 100 bucks more and find someone who knows what he is doing.
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    • Groove
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      • Jan 2003
      • 3852
      #2
      So which companies did you use?

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        • Fletch XXX
          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
          • Jan 2002
          • 60840
          #3
          as i say: cut out the middle man and overpriced outsourcers.

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            • Slinx
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              • May 2003
              • 823
              #4
              Originally posted by Groove
              So which companies did you use?

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                • gornyhuy
                  Chafed.
                  • May 2002
                  • 18041
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                  as i say: cut out the middle man and overpriced outsourcers.

                  http://www.fletchxxx.com
                  You don't do submissions, do you? I think thats what he's bitching about.

                  I have had the same history so far, but I have high hopes for my current attempt. Maybe I'll post results in a month or two. Then again, if I find something good I'd be an idiot to flood it.

                  icq:159548293

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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                      as i say: cut out the middle man and overpriced outsourcers.

                      http://www.fletchxxx.com
                      When can you start submitting?

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204
                          #7
                          Originally posted by gornyhuy
                          You don't do submissions, do you? I think thats what he's bitching about.

                          I have had the same history so far, but I have high hopes for my current attempt. Maybe I'll post results in a month or two. Then again, if I find something good I'd be an idiot to flood it.
                          Also other stuff, not directly design orders tho.

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                            • KMR Stitch
                              I am cool
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 14494
                              #8
                              I am starting to get pissed off with mine.


                              2400.00 order

                              I got a part of the work order today..

                              Checked it come to find out Nothing was There!!!

                              I won't say more yet but.. I am going to see what is going on.

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                                • hershie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 4642
                                  #9
                                  I tried one out as a test to build one simple landing page and they passed it on to one of their designers who said he completely undertstood the instructions and that I was there on ICQ for any questions and everyone knew I had a deadline and then they went off ICQ and the deadline came and went and I finally get a message from the boss that the designer didn't understand what I wanted so he went home.

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                                    • srikanth79
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 416
                                      #10
                                      OK People,

                                      If you want any gallery making and submitting done, hit me up on ICQ. I am not cheap but you will get VERY good service. I don't run any outsourcing service. I submit myself and i know what i am doing

                                      Cya,
                                      srik
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                                        • Dirty F
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 59204
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by srikanth79
                                          OK People,

                                          If you want any gallery making and submitting done, hit me up on ICQ. I am not cheap but you will get VERY good service. I don't run any outsourcing service. I submit myself and i know what i am doing

                                          Cya,
                                          srik
                                          Stop spamming my thread. If i need one id ask for one.

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                                            • brizzad
                                              holla
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 11769
                                              #12
                                              i've only tried out one outsourcing company, they did my work for REALLY cheap, work was delivered a week late.. it didnt bother me though, their low price and poor english kept my happy and entertained while i waited

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                                                • TheMob
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                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 8584
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                  as i say: cut out the middle man and overpriced outsourcers.

                                                  http://www.fletchxxx.com
                                                  i agree. hire a starving designer instead!

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                                                    • Dirty F
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 59204
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by brizzad
                                                      i've only tried out one outsourcing company, they did my work for REALLY cheap, work was delivered a week late.. it didnt bother me though, their low price and poor english kept my happy and entertained while i waited
                                                      Well believe me when i tell you the poor english drove me nuts.
                                                      They snail mailed me stuff and im amazed it arrived since they couldnt spell 1 name/word on the package correctly. Icq messages i have to reread 10 times before i understand what theyre saying. Designs need to be redone because not 1 word is spelled correctly plus when i talk to them they have no clue what im saying.

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                                                        • Keev
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                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 5335
                                                          #15
                                                          or if you find a good outsource worker underneath the middleman, hire him away from the outsource company and pay him what your paying the middle man and he will happy like a pig in shit.
                                                          Last edited by Keev; 09-24-2004, 08:45 AM.
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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Keev
                                                              or if you find a good outsource worker underneath the middleman, hire him away from the outsource company and pay him what your paying the middle man and he will happy be like a pig in shit.
                                                              No, no more outsourcing for me anymore. Simply not the worth the hassle.

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                                                                • TheMob
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                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 8584
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Keev
                                                                  or if you find a good outsource worker underneath the middleman, hire him away from the outsource company and pay him what your paying the middle man and he will happy be like a pig in shit.
                                                                  that is a good idea..

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                                                                    • brizzad
                                                                      holla
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 11769
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                      Well believe me when i tell you the poor english drove me nuts.
                                                                      They snail mailed me stuff and im amazed it arrived since they couldnt spell 1 name/word on the package correctly. Icq messages i have to reread 10 times before i understand what theyre saying. Designs need to be redone because not 1 word is spelled correctly plus when i talk to them they have no clue what im saying.
                                                                      i know just what you mean.. the only way that i could make out what they were trying to say is because they'd use smilies after every few words.. this made it easier

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                                                                        • slapass
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 14625
                                                                          #19
                                                                          At least you got it started. I icq one set the whole deal up. Did a follow up email. nothing. second icq, follow up email, nothing third time nothing. So much for my new site.

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                                                                            • TheMob
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                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 8584
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                                              At least you got it started. I icq one set the whole deal up. Did a follow up email. nothing. second icq, follow up email, nothing third time nothing. So much for my new site.
                                                                              oh that sucks, who did you use?

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                                                                                • justsexxx
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                  • 13723
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Same experience here.

                                                                                  I now work with a Dutch guy who is unemployed 2000 descriptions for 70 euro ;-)

                                                                                  Andre
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                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
                                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 60840
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                      When can you start submitting?
                                                                                      The post didnt really say anything about submitting exxcept ONE of the outsourcers you mention.

                                                                                      regardles, outsourcers are shit in my eyes.

                                                                                      you want to pay some non english speaking guy in another country 3 bucks a day, go ahead, just dont complain about it when you get jacked.

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                                                                                        • harvey
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                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by harvey
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                                                                                              You really bumped this thread from page 2 just to spam? Even after i asked to stop spamming this thread. Sorry but you just lost 10 points on the respect o meter.

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                                                                                                • webmaster x
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 4400
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Your hatred makes sense. It's similar to US steelmakers' hate of Japanese/Korean/Chinese/European steel.



                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                  The post didnt really say anything about submitting exxcept ONE of the outsourcers you mention.

                                                                                                  regardles, outsourcers are shit in my eyes.

                                                                                                  you want to pay some non english speaking guy in another country 3 bucks a day, go ahead, just dont complain about it when you get jacked.
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                                                                                                    • webmaster x
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                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                      • 4400
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                      1 dissapeared with my money
                                                                                                      1 Returned me my money after i asked for it
                                                                                                      1 did their job (gallery submitting)

                                                                                                      Needless to say i wont deal with any outsource company anymore.

                                                                                                      The misscommunications drive me nuts. The lack of english, the lack of knowledge and the lack of knowing how to do business drive me nuts as well.

                                                                                                      Tip for everybody: Spend a few 100 bucks more and find someone who knows what he is doing.

                                                                                                      Would the guys who did their job (gallery submitting) be represented by a guy with $5 in his name?
                                                                                                      Click 9500 FHG Text Descriptions--Only $89!

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                                                                                                        • egonetworks
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          The solution isn't always to cut out outsourcing - but perhaps chose better outsourcing companies in better locations. Canada is the next India for outsourcing centers, and we speak fluent english (and french, spanish, dutch, you name it).

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                                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 51692
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                              You don't do submissions, do you? I think thats what he's bitching about.

                                                                                                              I have had the same history so far, but I have high hopes for my current attempt. Maybe I'll post results in a month or two. Then again, if I find something good I'd be an idiot to flood it.
                                                                                                              The good one was probably 5$ submissions :P
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                                                                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                  • 59204
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by webmaster x
                                                                                                                  Would the guys who did their job (gallery submitting) be represented by a guy with $5 in his name?
                                                                                                                  Correct.

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                                                                                                                    • Pornweaver
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                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 855
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I've used a couple as well. I have had nothing but a problem with these companies.

                                                                                                                      1 of them I paid nearly a thousand dollars, and it took them nearly 3 weeks to get back to me once they received the $. I contacted them after they received my funds, and got no response for 3 weeks. Then once I finally got in touch with them, it was such a hassle to get the work done because the guy the assigned to me was a total idiot and didn't know anything.

                                                                                                                      The other did such shitty work that I refuse to ever work with another of these companies.

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                                                                                                                        • Roald
                                                                                                                          SecretFriends.com
                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                          • 27910
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          nice to see not even 1 outsource company posted in this thread sofar.


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                                                                                                                            • $5 submissions
                                                                                                                              I help you SUCCEED
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                              • 32189
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by webmaster x

                                                                                                                              Would the guys who did their job (gallery submitting) be represented by a guy with $5 in his name?
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                              Correct.
                                                                                                                              Thanks, Battus.

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                                                                                                                                • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                                                                  I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 21684
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                                                                  nice to see not even 1 outsource company posted in this thread sofar.
                                                                                                                                  yeah post some names, happy to have ppl on the payroll though even though ive thought bout outsourcing a million times

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                                                                                                                                    • Nicky
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 30071
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                                      1 dissapeared with my money
                                                                                                                                      1 Returned me my money after i asked for it
                                                                                                                                      1 did their job (gallery submitting)

                                                                                                                                      Needless to say i wont deal with any outsource company anymore.

                                                                                                                                      The misscommunications drive me nuts. The lack of english, the lack of knowledge and the lack of knowing how to do business drive me nuts as well.

                                                                                                                                      Tip for everybody: Spend a few 100 bucks more and find someone who knows what he is doing.
                                                                                                                                      yoo Battus, if you need hand submissions done LL/tgp I can do it for ya, no lack of english and I know what the fuck im doing Hit me up on icq: 62777655 and let me know what u need and what u pay.

                                                                                                                                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                                                                        • fris
                                                                                                                                          I have to go potty
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 55807
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          http://www.dreambigmedia.com/funtimes.txt


                                                                                                                                          ^^^ xxxoutsourcing bunch of clowns
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                                                                                                                                            • BrainDead
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 1536
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                                                              http://www.dreambigmedia.com/funtimes.txt


                                                                                                                                              ^^^ xxxoutsourcing bunch of clowns
                                                                                                                                              YIPES!

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                                                                                                                                                • ControlThy
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                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 1909
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                                                                  http://www.dreambigmedia.com/funtimes.txt


                                                                                                                                                  ^^^ xxxoutsourcing bunch of clowns
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                                                                                                                                                    • Nicky
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 30071
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                                                                      http://www.dreambigmedia.com/funtimes.txt


                                                                                                                                                      ^^^ xxxoutsourcing bunch of clowns
                                                                                                                                                      hehehe, talk about fucked up english......

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                                                                                                                                                        • wyldblyss
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                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 5779
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I can often tell which sponsors outsourced simply by the way things are worded on their tour

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                                                                                                                                                            • Tricksy
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 2601
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                                                              Well believe me when i tell you the poor english drove me nuts.
                                                                                                                                                              They snail mailed me stuff and im amazed it arrived since they couldnt spell 1 name/word on the package correctly. Icq messages i have to reread 10 times before i understand what theyre saying. Designs need to be redone because not 1 word is spelled correctly plus when i talk to them they have no clue what im saying.
                                                                                                                                                              It's not like that all the time!!! Believe me...u just had bad expirience and made biz with wrong ppl!


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                                                                                                                                                                • flashfreak
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                                                                                                                  i agree. hire a starving designer instead!
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                                                                                                                                                                    • swedguy
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.dreambigmedia.com/funtimes.txt


                                                                                                                                                                      ^^^ xxxoutsourcing bunch of clowns
                                                                                                                                                                      Date : 7/30/2004 Time : 6:59 PM
                                                                                                                                                                      To : fris
                                                                                                                                                                      ok do it up

                                                                                                                                                                      Date : 7/31/2004 Time : 10:36 AM
                                                                                                                                                                      From : Outsourcing.angel
                                                                                                                                                                      going to send you the banner

                                                                                                                                                                      Date : 7/31/2004 Time : 10:37 AM
                                                                                                                                                                      To : fris
                                                                                                                                                                      why tootie did one

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                                                                                                                                                                        • chupachups
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          As I have pointed out in other threads it takes lots and lots of work to do this. You really have to work with GOOD people, and believe me, many of these guys are indeed no-goods with often very poor knowledge/experience. Dont take anything for granted and if anything seems suspicious it often is. Ninety percent will tell you what you want is a piece of cake, they´ve done that 100 times etc - let the alarms go off. A few advice (from working with this during 5-6 years):

                                                                                                                                                                          DO NOT work with Indian/Pakistani developers if you dont have to. I have nothing against them and many are good but, the difference in culture/ethics/moral are just TO big if you are an "outsourcing-newbie". Indians are a very nice and friendly people, BUT, they may often be found very lengthy and hard to deal with - its often like talking to marsians. Best, and I mean best, is to get Baltic or Russian developers. The best we´ve had so far are the Belarussian guys.

                                                                                                                                                                          The pros are many - we are very much alike (that goes for you americans aswell, I am talking a western world perspective), the time diff isnt as big (well, in europe anyway) and the peeps are DEFINETELY much easier to work with. Having Indian developers may many times be compared to babysitting - they just arent used to work independently and need rigorous attention + specs to follow. Russian/Baltic developers , on the contrary, find solutions to problems. You tell them what you want and they make it work. They, in most ways, are much better to work with for, at least, the small/medium webmaster.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Naughty
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks, Battus.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Cheaper than 5$ including guarantees? Wow ... Good luck.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Platinumpimp
                                                                                                                                                                                  Logos and such.
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                                                                                                                  nice to see not even 1 outsource company posted in this thread sofar.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Only the good one, $5 Submissions! He does a GREAT job, seriously.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I design logo's.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • gornyhuy
                                                                                                                                                                                      Chafed.
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18041
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Well.... shit this thread is discouraging, but I still have high hopes. I'll let you guys know.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not just trying for shitty banner designers either - I need full fledged webmaster/script operator type functionality.

                                                                                                                                                                                      icq:159548293

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                                                                                                          Is on the 1
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          References and contracts are a must when it comes to dealing with outsourcing in my opinion.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • pixieboy
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Keev
                                                                                                                                                                                              or if you find a good outsource worker underneath the middleman, hire him away from the outsource company and pay him what your paying the middle man and he will happy like a pig in shit.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Funny to hear that from a guy that hires flip dogs. I never thought you see your workers that way...

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