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  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089
    #1

    Every cloud has a silver lining (Ibill)

    Some bad news and good news! Ibill is apparently having some major setbacks----and this should cause some concern if you are their client. The good news is-----there is a strong company called, eCommerceGlobal, and they are prepared to step up to assist you with your processing needs.

    eCommerceGlobal offers free and fast setup with low rates, no monthly fees, live merchant support and live support for your customers, real time transaction reports, one-time and recurring billing, a friendly front and back-end interface, fraud scrubbing, an affiliate tracking program, and much more.

    With 8 years of experience in the merchant account and processing business eCommerceGlobal (Unlike Ibill) has multiple banking relationships, thereby providing a more stable and viable future. They are prepared to meet the credit card billing needs of domestic and international adult merchants.

    This might be a good time to check them out, either as a primary or backup processor.
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    • rowan
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2002
      • 17393
      #2
      No setup fees? Does that mean they're not Visa USA compliant?

      These also make me very nervous...

      1. Creation Date: 11-aug-2004

      2. Registrant:
      Domains by Proxy, Inc.
      15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
      PMB353
      Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
      United States

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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393
          #3
          3. Payment by wire only.

          4. ICQ contact listed on signup page is some chick in Brazil with a tag saying she wants to make new friends (!?!?)



          Is anyone using this company? Something smells kinda funny...

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            • Zprogramz
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 1360
              #4
              This company will be gone in 6 months with all of your money who uses them. Stick with the companies that have been around for awhile and do not slam the competition.

              Z

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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                  best designer on GFY
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 30307
                  #5
                  How about the scrub controls?

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089
                      #6
                      Originally posted by rowan
                      No setup fees? Does that mean they're not Visa USA compliant?

                      These also make me very nervous...

                      1. Creation Date: 11-aug-2004

                      2. Registrant:
                      Domains by Proxy, Inc.
                      15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
                      PMB353
                      Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
                      United States
                      They will pay the compliance fee.

                      eCommerceGlobal has many parent sites, but this was created for the high-risk (adult) market just recently

                      you can verify this by Googling

                      ecommerceglobal

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                        • MikeHawk
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6683
                          #7
                          Ibill is not going anywhere, I spoke to a good friend over there today after I heard the bad news, they are already setting up with there fall back plan, so big a company to go out.

                          We dont process with them, but they thru a good party in Florida, I doubt they will go under...
                          THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              Originally posted by rowan
                              3. Payment by wire only.

                              4. ICQ contact listed on signup page is some chick in Brazil with a tag saying she wants to make new friends (!?!?)
                              3. ACH is also available, as stated on the home page, it was not mentioned on the FAQ page, but that has been fixed now.

                              4. THat was a typo, ICQ was changed on signup page

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                  This company will be gone in 6 months with all of your money who uses them. Stick with the companies that have been around for awhile and do not slam the competition.

                                  Z
                                  They have been around for 8 years, and no one is slamming anyone

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                                    • CDSmith
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 51460
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                      Ibill is not going anywhere,...

                                      ... I doubt they will go under
                                      Sounds like a little waffling going on there. Your first statement is confident, but your last.... is not.

                                      The only fact on this issue is this: At this point no one can say for sure what will happen with ibill.
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                                        • rowan
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 17393
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          They will pay the compliance fee.

                                          eCommerceGlobal has many parent sites, but this was created for the high-risk (adult) market just recently

                                          you can verify this by Googling

                                          ecommerceglobal
                                          What about the domains by proxy WHOIS, the lack of checks as a payment method, and the sales chick located in Brazil. To me all 3 of these together spell "offshore company"

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                                            • Zprogramz
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 1360
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              They have been around for 8 years, and no one is slamming anyone
                                              Bullshit - you slammed Ibill above. Name me one decnet sized merchant that we know who iuses them and we will go from there. Also, please post the name of the US bank that you (they) use.

                                              Z

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                                  What about the domains by proxy WHOIS, the lack of checks as a payment method, and the sales chick located in Brazil. To me all 3 of these together spell "offshore company"
                                                  They pay by check FAQ- "What are my options for getting paid by eCommerceGlobal.com?
                                                  eCommerceGlobal.com is paying all settlement by wire or Direct Deposit (ACH):

                                                  Wire Transfer fee: Depends which of our banks it is coming from. It ranges from $25.00 to $50.00 per wire.

                                                  Direct Deposit (ACH) fee is $2.00"

                                                  THe ICQ was a typo - it said 55501619 when it should have said 56501619 - that has been fixed

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                                                    • baddog
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                      Bullshit - you slammed Ibill above. Name me one decnet sized merchant that we know who iuses them and we will go from there. Also, please post the name of the US bank that you (they) use.

                                                      Z
                                                      where did anyone slam Ibill?

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                                                        • Zprogramz
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 1360
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          where did anyone slam Ibill?
                                                          By you reiterating Ibills problems while spamming for another company, that is slamming. How about the rest of my questions?

                                                          Z

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                                                            • BitterPen
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                              • 1926
                                                              #16
                                                              Every cloud may have a silver lining. Just as every rose has it's thorn.

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                                                                • baddog
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                  By you reiterating Ibills problems while spamming for another company, that is slamming. How about the rest of my questions?

                                                                  Z
                                                                  Pointing out the obvious is not slamming them . . . maybe if I said something along the lines of them waiting until the last minute, and not having a backup plan in order, but I didn't. I only stated the facts as everyone has now become aware.

                                                                  Yes, their banks are offshore------but their management and sales/marketing is U.S. U.S. banks tend to cause problems, i.e. pswbilling lawsuit against a US bank, Ibill, etc

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                                                                    • baddog
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 107089
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                      How about the scrub controls?
                                                                      http://ecommerceglobal.com/antifraud.htm

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                                                                        • Red Ezra
                                                                          redezra.com
                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                          • 4678
                                                                          #19
                                                                          every hairy ball sack has wrinkles

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                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 51460
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                              Bullshit - you slammed Ibill above.
                                                                              I see no slam in Baddog's original post. Simply pointed out what we already know, that ibill are having difficulties, and he is letting people know that there is another solution available should they need it.

                                                                              A little tiny wee bit spammish, but at least he's not out hijacking other people's threads.


                                                                              oh jeez Baddog has me looking for the silver linings now.
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                                                                                • rowan
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                  • 17393
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  They pay by check FAQ- "What are my options for getting paid by eCommerceGlobal.com?
                                                                                  eCommerceGlobal.com is paying all settlement by wire or Direct Deposit (ACH):

                                                                                  Wire Transfer fee: Depends which of our banks it is coming from. It ranges from $25.00 to $50.00 per wire.

                                                                                  Direct Deposit (ACH) fee is $2.00"

                                                                                  THe ICQ was a typo - it said 55501619 when it should have said 56501619 - that has been fixed
                                                                                  Yeah, that FAQ page only changed after I mentioned it.

                                                                                  You've still skipped the important question of why they (you?) are using domains by proxy. I can't find any postal or physical address on their website. Why should people do business with a company when they're hiding?

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                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by MikeHawk

                                                                                      We dont process with them, but they thru a good party in Florida, I doubt they will go under...
                                                                                      I am trying to remember, wasn't there a processor that threw a gala event at an Internext not long ago, and went under a week later or something? . . . . seems there was someone, but I can't be sure. Just seem to remember reading that after FL Internext 2003

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                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by CDSmith

                                                                                          oh jeez Baddog has me looking for the silver linings now.
                                                                                          sorry, I will try to not let that happen again

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                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 51460
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                              sorry, I will try to not let that happen again
                                                                                              No you won't. You're too positive a thinker for that.

                                                                                              You.... positive thinking guy you.
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                                                                                                • Zprogramz
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 1360
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                  Pointing out the obvious is not slamming them . . . maybe if I said something along the lines of them waiting until the last minute, and not having a backup plan in order, but I didn't. I only stated the facts as everyone has now become aware.

                                                                                                  Yes, their banks are offshore------but their management and sales/marketing is U.S. U.S. banks tend to cause problems, i.e. pswbilling lawsuit against a US bank, Ibill, etc
                                                                                                  ok - so they are accepting US merchants through an offshore merchant account? That is completely against Visa's cross border regulations. Since there are no Visa reg fees for offshore banks, they are not actually paying it as you mentioned above.

                                                                                                  This is a bunch of BS.

                                                                                                  Z

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                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                      Yeah, that FAQ page only changed after I mentioned it.

                                                                                                      The home page ALWAYS said they offered ACH, they did not notice that they forgot to mention it on the FAQ page . . . they asked me to extend their thanks for pointing that out.

                                                                                                      I am not really sure why they don't have a mailing address on their site, but there will be one soon
                                                                                                      Last edited by baddog; 09-22-2004, 11:21 PM.

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                                                                                                        • Groove
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                          • 3852
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          baddog, what's your relationship with eCommerceGlobal?

                                                                                                          Will they process for an Australian company?

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                                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 51460
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                                                              ok - so they are accepting US merchants through an offshore merchant account? That is completely against Visa's cross border regulations. Since there are no Visa reg fees for offshore banks, they are not actually paying it as you mentioned above.

                                                                                                              This is a bunch of BS.

                                                                                                              Z
                                                                                                              You know, I completely understand your concern and wanting to know that everything is on the up-and-up 100% before you'd consider trusting any part of your business to what you perceive as an unkown entity. I do. But could you dial it back a notch on the tone? You are behing rather confrontational don't you think?

                                                                                                              Talk -- don't accuse. Baddog is a long-time straight shooter here.

                                                                                                              And as it so happens I am an excellent judge of character.
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                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                                                                  ok - so they are accepting US merchants through an offshore merchant account? That is completely against Visa's cross border regulations. Since there are no Visa reg fees for offshore banks, they are not actually paying it as you mentioned above.
                                                                                                                  there are many third party processors, Verotel being one of them, that accept US merchants through an offshore merchant account---and as they say on their site: "Free box office for your online subscriptions, Credit card and check billing options NO setup fee NO monthly minimums ..." and I dont see anyone slamming Verotel.

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                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Groove
                                                                                                                      baddog, what's your relationship with eCommerceGlobal?

                                                                                                                      Will they process for an Australian company?
                                                                                                                      They approached me to act as an agent for them . . . I agreed to do so.

                                                                                                                      and yes they will

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                                                                                                                        • CDSmith
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                          • 51460
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                          They approached me to act as an agent for them . . . I agreed to do so.

                                                                                                                          and yes they will
                                                                                                                          What about a Canadian company?




                                                                                                                          *holds breath*
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                                                                                                                            • baddog
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                              • 107089
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CDSmith


                                                                                                                              Talk -- don't accuse. Baddog is a long-time straight shooter here.

                                                                                                                              And as it so happens I am an excellent judge of character.
                                                                                                                              Thank you sir

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                                                                                                                                • Groove
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 3852
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                  They approached me to act as an agent for them . . . I agreed to do so.
                                                                                                                                  So how well do you know this company and its management team?


                                                                                                                                  and yes they will
                                                                                                                                  Cool

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                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                                                      What about a Canadian company?




                                                                                                                                      *holds breath*
                                                                                                                                      well, I guess it would be easier to list the ones they won't process for, because they will process for virtually all of them . . . . Canada included

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                                                                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Groove
                                                                                                                                          So how well do you know this company and its management team?
                                                                                                                                          I have had several telephone conversations with them . . . they approached me several months ago for some consulting on the adult processing business, and I suggested a few things to them, and they applied some of my recommendations... we have talked some more recently--------they impress me as sincere and competent.

                                                                                                                                          While they are new to adult, they are not new to mainstream. They just needed to make some slight adjustments to become more adult friendly. I guess they figured that I could help in that arena.

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                                                                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 51460
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                              well, I guess it would be easier to list the ones they won't process for, because they will process for virtually all of them . . . . Canada included
                                                                                                                                              Interesting.
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                                                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  here is a deal that is hard to pass up, if you signup there is a box where they ask where you heard about ecommerceglobal. If you type in "baddog" they will give you a .50% discount!!

                                                                                                                                                  How is that for a deal?

                                                                                                                                                  the rate quote: it will be for example:

                                                                                                                                                  13%............
                                                                                                                                                  minus .50 per cent BD discount,
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by baddog; 09-23-2004, 12:13 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 11913
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                                                                                                      Ibill is not going anywhere, I spoke to a good friend over there today after I heard the bad news, they are already setting up with there fall back plan, so big a company to go out.

                                                                                                                                                      We dont process with them, but they thru a good party in Florida, I doubt they will go under...
                                                                                                                                                      1) Ibill has not made any public statements to deny these horrible and apparently "false" rumors of their demise.

                                                                                                                                                      That would seem to suggest that they are in fact going out of business... or at the very least are not sure if they are or not.

                                                                                                                                                      "Backup plan"????? you have to be fucking kidding me. Didn't this problem began in 1998? When did they start working on a "backup plan"? Yesterday?


                                                                                                                                                      2) Every processor says everything is perfect, ESPECIALLY to their closest friends and biggest clients right up until their phone is disconnected, their office furniture is repo'ed and they are safely on a plane out of town. It has happened a dozen or more times already and one would have to be an idiot to think it could'nt happen again.

                                                                                                                                                      ANYONE that trusts Ibill with their money is an uninformed newbie.... or retarded and should not be running a business. There is no other way to put it.


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                                                                                                                                                        • Nathan
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 3108
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Hi baddog,

                                                                                                                                                          could you please msg me, I have a few questions for you:

                                                                                                                                                          ICQ 1889711
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                                                                                                                                                          "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                                                                                                                                                          - Charlie Munger

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                                                                                                                                                            • uchase/webpry
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 2085
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                              They never approached me to act as an agent for them . . . I simply decided to spam my refcode here.

                                                                                                                                                              ... sorry to see ibill has hit the dirt hard, hopefully I make some bucks out of this.
                                                                                                                                                              ... couldn't agree with you more.

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                                                                                                                                                                • MickeyG
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 4134
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                                  1) Ibill has not made any public statements to deny these horrible and apparently "false" rumors of their demise.

                                                                                                                                                                  That would seem to suggest that they are in fact going out of business... or at the very least are not sure if they are or not.

                                                                                                                                                                  "Backup plan"????? you have to be fucking kidding me. Didn't this problem began in 1998? When did they start working on a "backup plan"? Yesterday?


                                                                                                                                                                  2) Every processor says everything is perfect, ESPECIALLY to their closest friends and biggest clients right up until their phone is disconnected, their office furniture is repo'ed and they are safely on a plane out of town. It has happened a dozen or more times already and one would have to be an idiot to think it could'nt happen again.

                                                                                                                                                                  ANYONE that trusts Ibill with their money is an uninformed newbie.... or retarded and should not be running a business. There is no other way to put it.
                                                                                                                                                                  Man what a twisted sense of reality you have.

                                                                                                                                                                  ibill is a publicly traded company who?s stock has been frozen, They CAN NOT comment. It's not that they don't want to, they simply can't.

                                                                                                                                                                  Any one who doesn't think ibill had a backup plan in place is obviously not very smart and ibill has proven them wrong by already switching to another bank and resuming processing as if nothing has changed. Everyone has a backup plan its just common sense.

                                                                                                                                                                  The part of processors claiming everything fine right up till the last minute is unfortunately true, most of them do go down like that.

                                                                                                                                                                  Now this part of people trusting ibill being newbies is completely ridiculous. That statement should have been used for this new biller in the topic. Offshore with an anonomous domain just registered last month.. now that?s something to worry about.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by MickeyG; 09-23-2004, 04:33 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • sybianguru
                                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 53
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Hey BadDog-

                                                                                                                                                                      The fact that your domain was registered by proxy, coupled with your need to resort to spamming to attract new business, speaks volumes about you and your company.

                                                                                                                                                                      You might be better off working
                                                                                                                                                                      Here
                                                                                                                                                                      as funky as I wanna be

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                                                                                                                                                                        • woodman
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 433
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MickeyG
                                                                                                                                                                          Man what a twisted sense of reality you have.

                                                                                                                                                                          Any one who doesn't think ibill had a backup plan in place is obviously not very smart and ibill has proven them wrong by already switching to another bank and resuming processing as if nothing has changed. Everyone has a backup plan its just common sense.

                                                                                                                                                                          So then the points that they made in the court filings in regards to going out of business if the TRO was lifted were bogus???

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                                                                                                                                                                            • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                              been very busy
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 26983
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              kinda tasteless if you ask me.
                                                                                                                                                                              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • MickeyG
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 4134
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by woodman
                                                                                                                                                                                  So then the points that they made in the court filings in regards to going out of business if the TRO was lifted were bogus???
                                                                                                                                                                                  Honestly I can't answer that question but I feel it was more posturing for the courts then anything else.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • masterE
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey BadDog-

                                                                                                                                                                                      The fact that your domain was registered by proxy, coupled with your need to resort to spamming to attract new business, speaks volumes about you and your company.

                                                                                                                                                                                      You might be better off working

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks baddog, I'm going to go check this out, always good to have the eggs scattered around just in case shit hits the fan

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Nad
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by masterE
                                                                                                                                                                                          sybianguru

                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks baddog, I'm going to go check this out, always good to have the eggs scattered around just in case shit hits the fan
                                                                                                                                                                                          Your eggs will be more than scattered if you make that move... more like scrambled!

                                                                                                                                                                                          I am a HUGE advocate for spreading the transactions and making sure I have a backup.. but a questioniable one that is just coming out of no where.. gee where do I sign up!
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MickeyG
                                                                                                                                                                                              Honestly I can't answer that question but I feel it was more posturing for the courts then anything else.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Of course it was . you want a judge to go your way,your going to paint rosy pictures? No your going to be overly dramatic about the pain and suffering that will be endured. Comeon guys thats business law 101

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • JakeR
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1760
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • atom
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JakeR
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Only offshore banks offering adult via ecommerceglobal??
                                                                                                                                                                                                      jake knows his shit, i would never waste the money with a 3rd party processor.
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