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  • .:St Ides:.
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 4857
    #101
    For what others were asking before I believe gspotmoney is also main with ibill.

    I spoke to a "friend" there as well and he said the injunction has not been lifted and that they will make an official statement soon.

    I do not process with ibill and am not a die hard ibill supporter, but I do feel they are able to pull out of this and make something happen.

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      • Johny Traffic
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 5461
        #102
        Im a little confused, are they no longer to process as from now? Or as from a set date in the near future?


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          • WiredGuy
            Pounding Googlebot
            • Aug 2002
            • 34515
            #103
            Originally posted by XPays
            thirdly- XPays has paid and always will pay out on all joins commenced regardless of our ability to collect from any third party. Our variety is part of our business model.
            If a processor can't charge surfers though, that doesn't really help affiliates or XPays. Good thing you added paycom.
            WG
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              • PornGeneral
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                • Sep 2004
                • 564
                #104
                Did he know something was not right. Here is an insider transaction:

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                  • xxxoutsourcing
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3888
                    #105
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                      • Veterans Day
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8403
                        #106
                        Originally posted by PornGeneral
                        Did he know something was not right. Here is an insider transaction:

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                          • pradaboy
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                            • Dec 2003
                            • 12931
                            #107
                            hmmm interesting...

                            sadly I don't know which programs depend on Ibill for primary processing, would be good to know tho
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                              • BRISK
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12240
                                #108
                                Originally posted by MarkTiarra
                                I hope they work something out because if not this will be the single biggest hit this industry has taken since Web800 went down and this one will likely be worse.
                                True
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                                  • stocktrader23
                                    Let's do some business.
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 18781
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by PornGeneral
                                    Total Cash (mrq): 28.00K
                                    Total Debt (mrq)²: 1.17M

                                    Average Volume (3 month): 18,750
                                    Shares Outstanding: 15.67M
                                    Float: 11.40M
                                    % Held by Insiders: 27.26%
                                    % Held by Institutions: N/A

                                    Unconfirmed just grabbed from the Key Statistics, but this is not promissing. Insiders don't hold a huge stack in the outcome of the company and the volume is garbage. Not to mention the all stock buy of iBill from Penthouse.
                                    Wow.


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                                      • DatingGold
                                        $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 13185
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by Dawgy
                                        does this affect EU processing?

                                        i assume not... that it only affects US joins & US rebills...
                                        It does because they are not paying EU clients
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                                          • XPays
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                                            • May 2004
                                            • 13002
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                            If a processor can't charge surfers though, that doesn't really help affiliates or XPays. Good thing you added paycom.
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                                              • AaronM
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 46917
                                                #112
                                                http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=360309&s=

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                                                  • PornGeneral
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                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                    • 564
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                    http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=360309&s=
                                                    OT: That's just wrong to give out someone's phone number unless they publish it...
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                                                      • GSpotShawn
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 389
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
                                                        For what others were asking before I believe gspotmoney is also main with ibill.

                                                        I spoke to a "friend" there as well and he said the injunction has not been lifted and that they will make an official statement soon.

                                                        I do not process with ibill and am not a die hard ibill supporter, but I do feel they are able to pull out of this and make something happen.
                                                        On the old version of GSpotmoney we processed purely with iBill, with the newer PPS and Rev split version using NATs software we break up the processing between CCBill and IBill. NATs let's us switch primary processors on the fly, so everything at GSpotmoney should be running correctly.
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                                                          • homegrownmof
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                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 408
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                                            This from a guy who has yet to figure out that a sentence should end with some sort of punctuation.

                                                            Nice.

                                                            I love it when people like you try to insult me. Usually insults like this are followed by comments about me being fat and bald too.

                                                            I'll let you know when I give a fuck about you, your opinions, or your company.

                                                            Now....Mr. "I'm a Trial Attorney".......Come at me with something a bit stronger or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

                                                            Not only are you fat and bald, but you are a dipshit too.

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                                                              • PornGeneral
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                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                • 564
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                Wow.
                                                                Ya, that's what I said to when iBill was bought by Care Concepts. The cash on hand is a little to low.. IMHO
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                                                                  • Morphious
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                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                    • 197
                                                                    #117
                                                                    OK , My first post, but thought it was important.

                                                                    I talked to my Ibill rep this morning in detail.

                                                                    He said that if they do not get the injunction, that they would turn the system over to Stand In billing and that they already have an agreement with the new bank to run a Large batch job once this is up. He also said that this should not take to long as they have over 30 people working on getting this new system up and running ASAP.


                                                                    * PS. This is only what I was told from them..........

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                                                                      • MickeyG
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                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 4134
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by homegrownmof
                                                                        Not only are you fat and bald, but you are a dipshit too.

                                                                        A nobody saying nothing.

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                                                                          • Drake
                                                                            Hello world!
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 12508
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by Morphious
                                                                            OK , My first post, but thought it was important.

                                                                            I talked to my Ibill rep this morning in detail.

                                                                            He said that if they do not get the injunction, that they would turn the system over to Stand In billing and that they already have an agreement with the new bank to run a Large batch job once this is up. He also said that this should not take to long as they have over 30 people working on getting this new system up and running ASAP.


                                                                            * PS. This is only what I was told from them..........
                                                                            Good to hear

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                                                                              • boobmaster
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 6185
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                It's not so much whether they be able to find another processor, it's will they be able to in time, if in fact, they are only looking into an alternative now. A few days losing $800k every day and it becomes too late because the company is bankrupt and no longer has a need for a processor.

                                                                                The paper work alone will take days for something this large assuming the paper work only started today or a few days ago.

                                                                                It's not like multi-million dollar processors haven't gone under before for one reason or another. I can recall at least 5 in the past year and a half. Why didn't they move under a different name, get a new account, start all over again? Because it's not that easy.
                                                                                I can't believe that a major billing company like ibill would not have a contingency plan for something like this. If they didn't, that is inexcusable.

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                                                                                  • Calvinguy
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 1752
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by Morphious
                                                                                    OK , My first post, but thought it was important.

                                                                                    I talked to my Ibill rep this morning in detail.

                                                                                    He said that if they do not get the injunction, that they would turn the system over to Stand In billing and that they already have an agreement with the new bank to run a Large batch job once this is up. He also said that this should not take to long as they have over 30 people working on getting this new system up and running ASAP.


                                                                                    * PS. This is only what I was told from them..........
                                                                                    In theory this could be right.... standin processing has happen a few times in the past also when network problems etc. occured.

                                                                                    I cross my fingers (and switch to CCbill as primary in the mean time)
                                                                                    Last edited by Calvinguy; 09-22-2004, 11:26 AM.

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                                                                                      • stocktrader23
                                                                                        Let's do some business.
                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 18781
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by Morphious
                                                                                        OK , My first post, but thought it was important.

                                                                                        I talked to my Ibill rep this morning in detail.

                                                                                        He said that if they do not get the injunction, that they would turn the system over to Stand In billing and that they already have an agreement with the new bank to run a Large batch job once this is up. He also said that this should not take to long as they have over 30 people working on getting this new system up and running ASAP.


                                                                                        * PS. This is only what I was told from them..........
                                                                                        That's to be expected. However I imagine First Data will be holding money longer than usual and if the stock takes a dive it will hurt the cashflow even more. A stock being on hold isn't some minor issue.

                                                                                        Good luck to you and everyone else though. Hopefully it will all blow over as smoothly as possible but it's rather frightening what could happen.


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                                                                                          • .:St Ides:.
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                            • 4857
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by GSpotShawn
                                                                                            On the old version of GSpotmoney we processed purely with iBill, with the newer PPS and Rev split version using NATs software we break up the processing between CCBill and IBill. NATs let's us switch primary processors on the fly, so everything at GSpotmoney should be running correctly.
                                                                                            The main worry is not new transactions, but old rebills

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                                                                                              • PornGeneral
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                                • 564
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                I am glad to hear this, but the main concern is not with the operation its with the companies ability to pay its bills and remain.

                                                                                                Does Care Concepts have the ability and finacial backing to under take this?

                                                                                                A stock being halted just doesn't happen when you are switching processors.
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                                                                                                  • GSpotShawn
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                                                    • 389
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
                                                                                                    The main worry is not new transactions, but old rebills
                                                                                                    I realize this, my point was that transactions have been split since march when running through our new affiliate script and that affiliates currently sending traffic through this script shouldn't be concerned as their transactions are being processed with ccbill.
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                                                                                                      • AaronM
                                                                                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                        • 46917
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by homegrownmof
                                                                                                        Not only are you fat and bald, but you are a dipshit too.

                                                                                                        A nobody saying nothing.
                                                                                                        LOL...Is this the part where I call you and threaten you now?


                                                                                                        I've never had anything but respect for you and your company. It's nice to see where that gets people.

                                                                                                        Kinda makes me glad that I never chose to do business with your company after the emails inviting me to do so.

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                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                                                                            this is the correct answer, there are no other industries with as many clueless 18 year old wannbe player, pimp businessmen, that reak havoc on the industry for the fast buck with no regards to tommorrow. Pure havoc sooner or later. If your a large program doing the volume and have the ability to get your own merchant, I wouldn't hesitate if I were you.
                                                                                                            as those clueless 18 year old wannbe player, pimp businessmen, that reak havoc on the industry for the fast buck with no regards to tommorrow would say, "werd."
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                                                                                                              • XPays
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                                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                                • 13002
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                LOL...Is this the part where I call you and threaten you now?


                                                                                                                I've never had anything but respect for you and your company. It's nice to see where that gets people.

                                                                                                                Kinda makes me glad that I never chose to do business with your company after the emails inviting me to do so.
                                                                                                                we'll gladly accept your traffic anytime aaron at http://XPays.com

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                                                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                    • 46917
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                                                    we'll gladly accept your traffic anytime aaron at http://XPays.com

                                                                                                                    only people who commit signup fraud are blacklisted with us despite anything you might say or do...

                                                                                                                    I'm sorry...Did it appear that my above post was quoting or directed to you in any way? Do you own Homegrown now?

                                                                                                                    As for sending you traffic....Until you call me back and apologize for trying to intimidate me with your threats, you can kiss my black ass.

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                                                                                                                      • XPays
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                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                        • 13002
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                        I'm sorry...Did it appear that my above post was quoting or directed to you in any way? Do you own Homegrown now?

                                                                                                                        As for sending you traffic....Until you call me back and apologize for trying to intimidate me with your threats, you can kiss my black ass.
                                                                                                                        homegrown has been cranking away since i was sucking my mother's tit- but you'll be able to promote them through XPays soon ssssshhhh
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                                                                                                                          • s9ann0
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                                                                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                            • 4873
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            I don't really know shit about CC proessing but isn't it a little bit weird there is no backup proccesors ?

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                                                                                                                              • AaronM
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                                                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                • 46917
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                                                                homegrown has been cranking away since i was sucking my mother's tit- but you'll be able to promote them through XPays soon ssssshhhh

                                                                                                                                Thanks for answering the question. This also explains why one of their owners would come on here and attack me.

                                                                                                                                Can somebody post the definition of shill again please?

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                                                                                                                                  • Morphious
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                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 197
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    news about the ibill denial on avnonline

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                                                                                                                                      • XPays
                                                                                                                                        Team Player
                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 13002
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                                                        Can somebody post the definition of shill again please?
                                                                                                                                        shill is what you are doing for us right now and thanks!
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                                                                                                                                          • Morphious
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                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 197
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Anybody on here using ibill - should really go into there CMI and down load all of ther active and past users emails , back up your password list and make screen captures of your current schedualed rebills - and any finacial information that you may need...


                                                                                                                                            Also if they do fail, some other companies are offering that they run the recures from Ibill , if we can get them........

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                                                                                                                                              • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 6037
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Morphious
                                                                                                                                                Anybody on here using ibill - should really go into there CMI and down load all of ther active and past users emails , back up your password list and make screen captures of your current schedualed rebills - and any finacial information that you may need...


                                                                                                                                                Also if they do fail, some other companies are offering that they run the recures from Ibill , if we can get them........
                                                                                                                                                That's very solid advice.
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                                                                                                                                                  • homegrownmof
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                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 408
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                                                    LOL...Is this the part where I call you and threaten you now?


                                                                                                                                                    I've never had anything but respect for you and your company. It's nice to see where that gets people.

                                                                                                                                                    Kinda makes me glad that I never chose to do business with your company after the emails inviting me to do so.
                                                                                                                                                    Call and threaten me? with what?

                                                                                                                                                    I formally rescind the offer to do business with us.
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                                                                                                                                                      • lawked
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                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 354
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Right strikes again?

                                                                                                                                                        Rather, religious right

                                                                                                                                                        Why would First Data toss out 800,000 a day in processing?

                                                                                                                                                        Doesn't make sense unless some republican is behind it.

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                                                                                                                                                          • AaronM
                                                                                                                                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 46917
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by homegrownmof
                                                                                                                                                            I formally rescind the offer to do business with us.

                                                                                                                                                            This is the same as telling somebody: "You can't fire me because I quit."

                                                                                                                                                            I made the decision not to do business with you a long time ago. Not because you did anything wrong...Just because I was not interested in having you as a client. It was nothing personal, but your attack was.

                                                                                                                                                            Thank you for the professional courtesy of that. [/sarcasm]
                                                                                                                                                            Last edited by AaronM; 09-22-2004, 12:31 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Rick Latona
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                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 6037
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by lawked
                                                                                                                                                                Right strikes again?

                                                                                                                                                                Rather, religious right

                                                                                                                                                                Why would First Data toss out 800,000 a day in processing?

                                                                                                                                                                Doesn't make sense unless some republican is behind it.
                                                                                                                                                                Unbelievable, ain't it?
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                                                                                                                                                                  • PornGeneral
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 564
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Morphious
                                                                                                                                                                    Anybody on here using ibill - should really go into there CMI and down load all of ther active and past users emails , back up your password list and make screen captures of your current schedualed rebills - and any finacial information that you may need...


                                                                                                                                                                    Also if they do fail, some other companies are offering that they run the recures from Ibill , if we can get them........
                                                                                                                                                                    Yup, and print your WM agreement and online statements.
                                                                                                                                                                    "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -Patton
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                                                                                                                                                                      • lawked
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                        Unbelievable, ain't it?
                                                                                                                                                                        What I really find unbelievable are all these adult webmasters that are republicans and actively defending bush.

                                                                                                                                                                        They'll get a hit and then some republican leader will blame Clinton and all will be great. Fucking idiots.

                                                                                                                                                                        If civil war breaks out, I'm heading to all the "red states" . Just kidding

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Dax
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Where is ibill reply in all this ?

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Theo
                                                                                                                                                                                HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                My instict says ibill will be around for long time. I guess we'll know in few days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                    The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                                    My instict says ibill will be around for long time. I guess we'll know in few days.
                                                                                                                                                                                    The company still has some value. It all comes down to the quality of their management. A super star CEO could pull out of it.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                    Rick Latona
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • The Other Steve
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dax
                                                                                                                                                                                        Where is ibill reply in all this ?
                                                                                                                                                                                        There is a brief comment by one of their lawyers in the AVN article.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Apart from that a couple of people have reported what they were told by their iBill reps and that's it.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            lawked my partner did some research and the chairman of First Data is not only a republican he also donated large sums to the Republican party and Bush in the last year.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Johny Traffic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                The company still has some value. It all comes down to the quality of their management. A super star CEO could pull out of it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                I hope they do


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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • scardog
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I do too. It seems many people are celebrating this. I don't see this as Ibill being a bad company. The are back full force in the adult space, trying to try new technologies, and just because some people claimed they would go out of business last year, they are jumping for joy so they can say I told you so. If Ibill goes, then who's next. Are you sure your bank won't do the same type of thing?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • kbut
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                                                                                        lawked my partner did some research and the chairman of First Data is not only a republican he also donated large sums to the Republican party and Bush in the last year.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh great, here come the conspiracy theories.............Surprised it took so long.

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