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  • AmeliaG
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    • Jan 2003
    • 10671

    #1

    MoneyBookers vs. PayPal Epassporte etc.

    Been getting some recommendations for MoneyBookers and was shown how to do the buy now button with that system. What do folks here think about the MoneyBookers system?
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  • johndoebob
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    • Mar 2004
    • 3405

    #2
    I'm happy with them since they opened (in 2001 I think).

    Also they're UK based and have a license and not on some caribian island where nobody could take them to court.
    Last edited by johndoebob; 09-21-2004, 07:05 PM.

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    • Persius
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      • Jul 2003
      • 11779

      #3
      never heard of them

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      • Kimmykim
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        • Jun 2001
        • 16015

        #4
        Originally posted by johndoebob
        I'm happy with them since they opened (in 2001 I think).

        Also they're UK based and have a license and not on some caribian island where nobody could take them to court.
        If you're referring to ePassporte, please keep in mind that Curacao belongs to Holland.

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        • johndoebob
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          • Mar 2004
          • 3405

          #5
          Originally posted by Kimmykim
          If you're referring to ePassporte, please keep in mind that Curacao belongs to Holland.
          The laws on curacao are totally different, they don't have euro as their currency etc. and I doubt I'd have any success when I wanted to sue anybody there.

          Btw. according to Master Card your verification methods are illegal in europe that's why I can't open an account.

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          • SpeakEasy
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            • Sep 2002
            • 2681

            #6
            Originally posted by johndoebob
            The laws on curacao are totally different, they don't have euro as their currency etc. and I doubt I'd have any success when I wanted to sue anybody there.

            Btw. according to Master Card your verification methods are illegal in europe that's why I can't open an account.
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            • Freakster
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              • Jul 2002
              • 833

              #7
              Moneybookers won't let me open an account because I don't have a passport... so.. f them
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              • AmeliaG
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2003
                • 10671

                #8
                Originally posted by Freakster
                Moneybookers won't let me open an account because I don't have a passport... so.. f them

                Really? They didn't ask me for a passport. I've had a personal account with both epassporte and moneybookers for some time now and had no difficulty signing up for either.

                Both were kind of difficult to fund though. Epassporte, in my opinion, is easier to fund for a personal account but not for business and I'm looking for a business solution. Moneybookers seems easier to get your money out of. I did so like the PayPal thing where I didn't have to have the money in paypal, just in my bank account or credit card, in order to spend with paypal. With one of the alternatives would set that up. I hate transferring stuff around so it never comes up even.

                KK, if you are still reading this thread, it would be awesome if you could answer my email about how to set up a buy now button with the epassporte system.
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                • Agent 488
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                  • Feb 2006
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                  #9

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                  • CyberHustler
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 28799

                    #10
                    Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

                    After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

                    Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.
                    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                    • slayer69
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 626

                      #11
                      Using them for years. Sometimes a withdraw to the bank will take a while but reliable and safe. Also, take a look at ecocard.com

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                      • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 3163

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NanoBot
                        Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

                        After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

                        Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.
                        they will miss your $5

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                        • Klen
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 32234

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NanoBot
                          Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

                          After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

                          Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.
                          Why they can eat a dick?I know MB suck due lack of atm card,maximum amount in account and high fee for bussiness accounts,revupcard is out of bussiness,but payoneer still works fine.

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                          • CyberHustler
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                            • Feb 2006
                            • 28799

                            #14
                            Originally posted by area51
                            they will miss your $5


                            Don't joke around with me like I'm one of your buddies. I probably have more sitting on my epass virtual visa than you've spent in your lifetime homie. And it ain't shit to me. You probably one of them 3rd world muh fuckas who's life just got ruined to the point of suicidal thoughts because epass is gone. Fuck outta here.

                            Shit, my sig prolly earns more per month than you do trying to sell free content.
                            “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                            • CyberHustler
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                              • Feb 2006
                              • 28799

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                              Why they can eat a dick?I know MB suck due lack of atm card,maximum amount in account and high fee for bussiness accounts,revupcard is out of bussiness,but payoneer still works fine.
                              Cause I'm paranoid now yo. Fuck these niggaz.
                              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NanoBot
                                Cause I'm paranoid now yo. Fuck these niggaz.
                                Yes i know,but payoneer is currently only valid solution to get money fast.

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                                • 2intense
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                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 12502

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NanoBot
                                  Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

                                  After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

                                  Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.
                                  i am using paypal for over 6 years with no issue
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                                  • 2intense
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                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 12502

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NanoBot


                                    Don't joke around with me like I'm one of your buddies. I probably have more sitting on my epass virtual visa than you've spent in your lifetime homie. And it ain't shit to me. You probably one of them 3rd world muh fuckas who's life just got ruined to the point of suicidal thoughts because epass is gone. Fuck outta here.

                                    Shit, my sig prolly earns more per month than you do trying to sell free content.
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                                    • Chris
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                                      • May 2003
                                      • 27880

                                      #19
                                      didnt moneybookers so no adult like 2 or 3 years ago?
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                                      • Toma
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                                        • Dec 2006
                                        • 1248

                                        #20
                                        moneybookers works fine, but for mainstream and gambling. no porn
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                                        • Sid70
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                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 16413

                                          #21
                                          moneybookers do well, too bad they dont have debit card attached.
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                                          • lucPL
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                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 305

                                            #22
                                            they offer mastercard...

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                                            • lucPL
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                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 305

                                              #23
                                              moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

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                                              • chronig
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                                                • Oct 2009
                                                • 2653

                                                #24
                                                Haven't had a single problem with paypal since being fr0z3n back in like 2006 - and reopening an account under a diff bank acct #

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                                                • Klen
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 32234

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lucPL
                                                  they offer mastercard...
                                                  Seems only for citizens of eu,but it is interesting thing how you can pick up to have your account in any currency,which makes it bullet proof against invisible charges

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                                                  • Sid70
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                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 16413

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lucPL
                                                    moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/
                                                    not for a shithole i'm in.
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                                                    • Wiredoctor
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                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 1632

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                      Been getting some recommendations for MoneyBookers and was shown how to do the buy now button with that system. What do folks here think about the MoneyBookers system?
                                                      Another very good option is Alert Pay I've been using them and no glitchs at all.
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                                                      • Boobgirl
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                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                        • 447

                                                        #28
                                                        I emailed Moneybookers regarding using them for paying adult companies ( not for subscriptions though), this is the responce:

                                                        Thank you for contacting Moneybookers Customer Service.

                                                        We would advise you to read section 16. Compliance with Laws of our Terms and Conditions, where you can see that such payments are not allowed at Moneybookers.com.

                                                        Do not hesitate to approach us, if you have further questions.
                                                        Last edited by Boobgirl; 09-06-2010, 12:09 PM.
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                                                        • fatfoo
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 27763

                                                          #29
                                                          A lot more people use paypal rather than moneybookers.
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                                                          • Chris
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                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 27880

                                                            #30
                                                            we havnt ever had a problem with paypal as an adult company ...ever
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                                                            • Dating Port
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                                                              • Jan 2009
                                                              • 731

                                                              #31
                                                              Current accounts status:

                                                              Netspend - Account fine
                                                              Epass - VV account frozen - Wallet account fine
                                                              Paypal - Account fine, $100 in 21 day hold - 3rd account to date
                                                              Moneybookers - Account opened, never used
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                                                              • Klen
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 32234

                                                                #32
                                                                Funny how on paypal you can pay affiliates if you ask them(since they consider that as salary)while on moneybookers they dont wanna do that no matter what.

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                                                                • lagcam
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                                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                                  • 2890

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Moneybookers is a good regulated service but can't be used for adult business and providing you are a real person with real ID etc you shouldn't have a problem with it. You make a p2p payment and they withdraw it to their bank.

                                                                  Alertpay also cannot be used for adult business but seems to be used by virtually every other scammer too lazy to walk to western union. They did use to work with adult, and it worked fine then and they paid out so I think the service is ok for making and receiving p2p payments that people can withdraw to their bank still.

                                                                  Payoneer is the closest thing to epassporte and works well, although foreign atm charges were higher than epassporte when we last used them. Accounts can only be loaded from sponsors, you can't send P2P.
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                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 107089

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would have a problem dealing with any of them that accept gambling sites. But that is just me.

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                                                                    • CyberHustler
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                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                      • 28799

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                      although foreign atm charges were higher than epassporte when we last used them. Accounts can only be loaded from sponsors, you can't send P2P.
                                                                      If this is true, it's useless for me.
                                                                      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                      • harvey
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 9266

                                                                        #36
                                                                        It always worked fine for me, however I'd recommend it only for medium to large sums, it's not very convenient if you want to withdraw small amounts since you can only request money via check or wire. The upside is it's extremely reliable, they have a real (FAST) support desk and they are insured so you won't lose your money, but it's not the same service than epass or paypal where you could withdraw money immediately.

                                                                        All things being said, go Moneybookers go!
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                                                                        • jaromir
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                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 556

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I like more PayPal, they sending directly money to the my Czech republic bank biz accounts FOR FREE!!!
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                                                                          • Sid70
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                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                            • 16413

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NanoBot
                                                                            If this is true, it's useless for me.
                                                                            Unless you sign up with 2CheckOut or Kagi that are payment processors partnered with Payoneer.
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                                                                            • Net Money
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                                                                              • Dec 2007
                                                                              • 539

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Wiredoctor
                                                                              Another very good option is Alert Pay I've been using them and no glitchs at all.
                                                                              I have also been using them and not 1 single issue ever. Very professional place to deal with.

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                                                                              • Boobgirl
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                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                • 447

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Alertpay just told me that I can setup an account to pay adult affliates, but I do have to wait to use the account for subscriptions. Sounds not bad!
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