Katrina: The 'Pissed Off War' Is On!!!

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  • Linkster
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 3216

    #31
    Fuck the Red Cross - they are preventing aid from getting to people just as much as FEMA is - we have a little over 110 shelters here in Miss. that the Red Cross wont give supplies to because they arent "registered" shelters - theyre all the local town churches putting up evacuees - but the Red Cross wont help them one bit - they also areonly giving the $2k cards for the evacuees if they are in Red Cross affiliated shelters.
    More importantly they have physically refused 18 wheeler trucks full of supplies from neighboring towns at Red Cross shelters here - they turn them around because the Red Cross didnt pay for them

    Never again will I give one red cent to the Red Cross
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    • jimmyf
      OU812
      • Feb 2001
      • 12651

      #32
      Following is a post from a fellow over in Merritt Is, FL, a reporter who's been researching what went on before the storm hit:

      I think all of Mayor Nagin's pomp and posturing is going to bite him hard in the near future as the lies and distortions of his interviews are coming to light. (Mayor Nagin claimed when the National guard arrived, the men were
      sitting around playing cards and would not respond to his pleas for help in
      evacuation.)

      On Friday night before the storm hit Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they
      said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.

      President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse
      Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could
      legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was
      decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.

      Saturday before the storm hit the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation.
      After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the
      Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to
      use before the disaster.

      Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to New Orleans for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will
      look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding as we now learn that the organizations identified
      in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning - though the document implies that they were.

      The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday which
      further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own
      emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.

      This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers
      and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.
      Last edited by jimmyf; 09-08-2005, 02:29 PM.
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      • Linkster
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 3216

        #33
        jimmyf
        I dont know who the writer is of that information - but it is mostly incorrect - as an example - the state of emergency was declared by the Governor on Friday at 5pm which is the requirement to get the Federal wheels turning
        http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp...0&nav=0RY5do3o
        So I would say that your bashing friend is just making up stuff to make it sound reasonable - but its total BS
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        • Greg B
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2001
          • 7014

          #34
          Originally posted by jimmyf
          On Friday night before the storm hit Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they
          said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.

          JimmyF, y'know I respect ya' but the info in that post don't chime with what we watched per procedure. Sounds like something Limbaugh would put out to cover up ass.

          Yet Mayfield from the NHC was up busting his ass working as usual for him and got on the air about the same time you've posted the info above. Yes he went overboard to warn people. Those buoys are tough fucking items. They stand up to lots of shit but for one to be destroyed was enough to light a fire under alot of people's asses.

          68' waves are not a good sign.

          The storm surge at one point was almost 20ft high and travelled 7 miles inland. That's fucking scary beyond. Had it been a tsunami what we know of N'Orleans would be now located in Iowa.

          Only official to admit a fuck up was that chick who ordered the evacuation ship pilots to leave before the evacuation could commence.

          Why the fuck do you have an evacuation fleet of ships and then tell the pilots to leave because it's dangerous?

          We will never hear the end to fucking up in this situation. Yet it clearly shows what many of us have known for a long time, you cannot depend on the politicians to protect you. It's like that old argument about keeping and bearing arms. It's okay if criminals have guns but if you do you go to jail. What asshat retard came up with those laws I don't know but I hope he/she is spinnin' on a pitchfork in the lower east side of Hell.

          Nagin's an engineer/communications executive. He's not a tactical expert. None of the people in charge are emergency tactical experts. Not even Brown from FEMA.

          What college did Brown graduate from, the 'Simon Bar Sinister School of Physics'??? Who taught him emergency techniques, the 'Sisters of Skeletor Squadron'????


          It's called dumb mother fuckers in a mother fucker's job.

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          • Greg B
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2001
            • 7014

            #35
            Oh, and another thing. The feds keep asking the press not to send out pics of dead bodies and shit. The pussy ass press of this administration actually DID THE OPPOSITE!

            Maybe now the press is growing the balls they used to have when I was a kid. Fucking pansy asses let the Bush Administration fuck em' royally and now that people have died in record numbers now they're realizing they don't mean shit.

            So the press is also showing pics of lighted buildings in N'Orleans like everything is alright. They're showing 'puppies' and 'kittens' being rescued and bulldozers cleaning up...

            Fucking idiots.

            Just wait in about a week when the waters have receded and the thousands and thousands of bodies start showing up.

            Like I said the shit hasn't even hit the fan yet.

            The one thing I like about Bush is he's a regular guy. No pretense, no uppity attitude BUT he's surrounded by some of the scummiest fucking shitslimes you'ld ever want to meet. Disillusioned psychotics.

            Greed will get the best of this event as already oil prices started to rise and real estate and debt bubbles are about to explode. Watch, just watch, IF we make it out of this hurricane season alive and we get a harsh winter expect the majority of the people to be fucked by next summer.

            Of course to us independents with low overhead means if you can pocket $50k easy by next Spring you will be in the cat bird seat and you will RULE...

            So just wait til the bodies from this storm become revealed. The cussing and arguments are going to get worse.

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            • Greg B
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2001
              • 7014

              #36
              Dang! They's moved evacuees as far north as New York! Thar's evacuees in my old hometown region of upstate NY!

              This shit is scary! It's the closest thing yet to a nuclear disaster aftermath.

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              • Greg B
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2001
                • 7014

                #37
                Now even FEMA director Brown is pissed off!

                He's supposed to resign today or tomorrow.

                If that ain't bad enough, the new Supreme Court nominee is also nominated to be the Chief Justice, bypassing several veteran justices already on the bench.

                Watch the shit fly now

                If fist fights don't break out soon I'll be surprised.

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                • Greg B
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 7014

                  #38
                  www.kfi640.com

                  The John & Ken Show is allowing a full hour of bitching and complaining about the Katrina situation. You can listen via the web. 6pm pacific 9/9/05

                  Their show is one of the funniest talk shows in the world. They don't hold back and have been tear assing on Bush and Brown all day.

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