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  • Tala
    Fucked if I know
    • Dec 2002
    • 23368

    #51
    Originally posted by WTS - Ben
    Tala,

    Tell your husband to check that HFCS & Trans fat post, that alone can help him break through a platue. Also, make sure he's drinking plenty of water. Lastly, CARDIO without muscle loss! It's tough to do, but not impossible! It just takes eating and exercising allot! He should be on some sort of protein shakes or something of that nature by now, right? If not, this is a great way to loose fat while maintain muscle mass. It's low calorie muscle nourishment. Tell him to eat ton's of proteins and workout like hell... that extra fat will burn off in no time.
    *just sighs*

    He knows all of this. Matter of fact, he preaches it to me day in and day out, often without really realizing it.

    Which is, I believe, at least part of why I am so loathe to follow his words. The whole rebellion thing is coming back full force. I feel like his kid more than his wife, and I'm older!



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    • Sarah_Jayne
      Now with more Jayne
      • Dec 2002
      • 40077

      #52
      anyone who has been overweight most of their lives know just how impressive that is. Well done!


      A lot of people would be so much healthier if they cooked their own food without using sauces that come from jars, etc. That way you know what sugars and the like go into them. It is usually cheaper too.

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      • wdsguy
        Ryde or Die
        • Dec 2002
        • 19568

        #53
        damn congrats to u bro

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        • Semi-Retired-Dave
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          • Apr 2004
          • 11190

          #54
          Damn, that is crazy.
          Congrats man, lots of Motivation there.
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          • Biggy2
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 1821

            #55
            Whats the deal with Diet Soda - im a big Diet Coke Drinker. work out regularly (3-4) times a week, looking to drop 18lbs from 188 to 170, while gaining muscle mass.

            suggestions? im pretty routine, i make a lot of sandwiches at home (turkey and roast beef, red peppers, on a roll). usually have it with chips and salsa, thats the staple of my diet - sandwiches. i also am a big sushi eater, and like to bbq (steaks, etc). i will admit i eat mainly 2-3 times a day, i simply dont have the time to eat once every 3 hours, and im sorta lazy when it comes to cooking, i like to keep things simple, but i have the drive.

            any advice?

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            • Smurfette
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2001
              • 542

              #56
              Congrats on your loss!

              I am also trying to lose at least 35 pounds, want to be about 95 lbs again (I am only 4'9") Having a big problem with finding time and the modivation to excerise, with 2 small children and work I find by after supper I'm ready to go to bed myself. I love pepsi drink about 2 2L a day of it and not a big fan of fish even though I'm from a fishing community. lol
              Am going to re read your posts and try to learn some stuff from it. Thanks for the info.


              Smurfette

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              • zentz
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                • Nov 2003
                • 8062

                #57
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                • Ben.Z
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                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1164

                  #58
                  Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                  anyone who has been overweight most of their lives know just how impressive that is. Well done!


                  A lot of people would be so much healthier if they cooked their own food without using sauces that come from jars, etc. That way you know what sugars and the like go into them. It is usually cheaper too.
                  Thank you! I'd been just a little overweight all my life until that 1st pic... Then I knew it was time to make something happen before it was too late.

                  In regards to your second 1/2 of the post... EVERYONE LURKING SHOULD READ THAT 10x OVER AND SAY IT BACKWARDS A FEW TIMES!

                  That info is gold sarah!
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                  • Kel
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 591

                    #59
                    One of the best non-biz related posts I've seen here in a long time. Congrats Ben! And as he'll attest to, when you are healthy, you think more clearily and can hold your concentration longer. You become a more productive human being and quality of life is so much better.

                    The hardest part is getting started.
                    Trust Me...

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                    • Screaming
                      I can change this!!!!!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 18972

                      #60
                      good job man, looking good

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                      • AudreyLive
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2061

                        #61
                        Very nice advices!


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                        • mindoza
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1625

                          #62
                          I have been about 80 lbs overweight for just about 10 years. About 3 weeks ago I walked into a personal training gym and have not looked back since. I work out with one of three trainers for about 1 1/2 hrs per session and go 3-4 days a weeks.....I can barely drive home when I am done but I have never felt more determined and full of energy....The diet is not the most favorite of my foods but I eat every 4 hours and I am not hungry

                          I have lost 12 lbs so far and I am going strong, I am glad to see there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!!!!
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                          • Ben.Z
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                            • Sep 2004
                            • 1164

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Biggy2
                            Whats the deal with Diet Soda - im a big Diet Coke Drinker. work out regularly (3-4) times a week, looking to drop 18lbs from 188 to 170, while gaining muscle mass.

                            suggestions? im pretty routine, i make a lot of sandwiches at home (turkey and roast beef, red peppers, on a roll). usually have it with chips and salsa, thats the staple of my diet - sandwiches. i also am a big sushi eater, and like to bbq (steaks, etc). i will admit i eat mainly 2-3 times a day, i simply dont have the time to eat once every 3 hours, and im sorta lazy when it comes to cooking, i like to keep things simple, but i have the drive.

                            any advice?
                            Well, your 1/2 way there... It sounds like your eating the right things. Now if you have the "drive", apply it to your diet too! Make sure you eat something every 3 hours... EVEN IF YOUR NOT HUNGRY! small portions though!

                            btw... sushi rules! and is sooooo very healty!

                            Oh, and diet soda isn't "bad" , but does contain allot of sodium. So if you want to look very "cut" I'd suggest baking off it. I have maybe 1-3 a week at most... and that's when i'm mixing with Crown!
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                            • Sarah_Jayne
                              Now with more Jayne
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 40077

                              #64
                              Originally posted by WTS - Ben
                              Thank you! I'd been just a little overweight all my life until that 1st pic... Then I knew it was time to make something happen before it was too late.

                              In regards to your second 1/2 of the post... EVERYONE LURKING SHOULD READ THAT 10x OVER AND SAY IT BACKWARDS A FEW TIMES!

                              That info is gold sarah!
                              thanks, don't get me wrong..I need to drop about 100 myself but a few years ago I dropped the first 40 (I have been fat all my life..it is partially due to a medical condition) and what I took away from that was just how easy it is to make your own stuff. I would never again buy a pasta sauce already made even - and maybe especially because of the added sugar - if it said it was low fat/low cal. Just buy tomato paste, chopped tomatoes (fresh even better), freshly chopped mushrooms, onions and peppers, use some herbs and it is so much better.

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                              • Ben.Z
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                                • Sep 2004
                                • 1164

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Kel
                                One of the best non-biz related posts I've seen here in a long time. Congrats Ben! And as he'll attest to, when you are healthy, you think more clearily and can hold your concentration longer. You become a more productive human being and quality of life is so much better.

                                The hardest part is getting started.
                                Thank you!

                                ... and yes, I will attest to your comments. being healthy will improve every aspect of your life from personal to professional.



                                Originally posted by mindoza
                                I have been about 80 lbs overweight for just about 10 years. About 3 weeks ago I walked into a personal training gym and have not looked back since. I work out with one of three trainers for about 1 1/2 hrs per session and go 3-4 days a weeks.....I can barely drive home when I am done but I have never felt more determined and full of energy....The diet is not the most favorite of my foods but I eat every 4 hours and I am not hungry

                                I have lost 12 lbs so far and I am going strong, I am glad to see there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!!!!
                                Good for you! Keep it up and you'll be there in no time!
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                                • Ben.Z
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                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 1164

                                  #66
                                  Here's a copy/paste from another post I made somewhere a long time ago...

                                  if you want to lose weight you have to count calories.....you cant go by someone Else's diet you have to come up with your own that fits your needs.
                                  you can try a 40/40/20 diet OR (45/35/20 50/30/20 ETC..)...that is a 40 prot 40 carb 20 fat
                                  to get your calories take anywhere from 12-15 x your bodyweight then cut off 500 from that...you are more then likely gonna be around 13or so...unless you are real active or fast metabolism...but if you are overweight then thats probably not the case so around 13 would be best id say...heres a example
                                  13xbodyweight
                                  say your body weight for example is 140
                                  13x140=1820
                                  -500
                                  1320 total caloires a day
                                  40% prot is 528
                                  40%carb is 528
                                  20%fat is 264

                                  carbs and protein are 4 calories per gram
                                  fat is 9
                                  so divide the calories per gram by the your intake to get your grams for the day
                                  so prot 528/4 =132 grams prot a day
                                  carb 528/4 = 132
                                  fat 264/9 = 29.3
                                  saturated fats are no good stay away form them and sugar etc..good healthy fats fish oils flax oils etc..is good to use
                                  so now pick some foods that you like split it up into 5 or 6 meals a day and if you like you can stop eating the carbs around 4th meal..and thats your diet
                                  fructose is not the best choice for carbs though...i ain't telling you not to eat it just don't revolve your carbs around it...pick up some multi vitamins and some vitamin c and e to take daily...try to stay away form sugars...you want to really just eat for carbs slow burning complex carbs.and fibrous carbs!!!..

                                  here's an example of some healthy food lists to choose from

                                  Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
                                  Tuna (water packed)
                                  Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut)
                                  Shrimp
                                  Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
                                  Venison
                                  Buffalo
                                  Ostrich
                                  Protein Powder
                                  Egg Whites or Whole Eggs
                                  Ribeye Steaks or Roast
                                  Top Round Steaks or Roast (aka Stew Meat, London Broil, Stir Fry)
                                  Top Sirloin (aka Sirloin Top Butt)
                                  Beef Tenderloin (aka Filet, Filet Mignon)
                                  Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
                                  Flank Steak (Sir Fry, Fajita)
                                  Eye of Round (Cube Meat, Stew Meat, Bottom Round , 96% LeandGround Round)
                                  Ground turkey, Turkey Breast Slices or cutlets (fresh meat, not deli cuts)
                                  Soy Burgers
                                  Low-fat cottage cheese

                                  SLOW BURNING/COMPLEX CARBS

                                  Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
                                  Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
                                  Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
                                  Oat Bran Cereal
                                  Rye Cereal
                                  Grape Nuts
                                  Brown Rice
                                  Farina (Cream of Wheat)
                                  Multigrain Hot Cereal
                                  Whole wheat or Spinach Pasta
                                  100% Stoneground Whole Wheat Bread

                                  FIBROUS CARBS

                                  Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
                                  Broccoli
                                  Asparagus
                                  String Beans
                                  Okra
                                  Spinach
                                  Bell Peppers
                                  Brussel Sprouts
                                  Cauliflower
                                  Cabbage
                                  Celery
                                  Cucumber
                                  Eggplant
                                  Green or Red Pepper
                                  Onions
                                  Pumpkin
                                  Garlic
                                  Tomatoes
                                  Zucchini
                                  HEALTHY FATS

                                  Natural Peanut Butter
                                  Olive Oil or Safflower Oil
                                  Nuts (peanuts, almonds)
                                  Flaxseed Oil

                                  BEVARAGES

                                  Crystal Light
                                  Green Tea
                                  Other Tea (without sugar)
                                  Coffee (without sugar)

                                  I'll post more diet info in a few... followed by my workout routine.

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                                  • Ben.Z
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                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 1164

                                    #67
                                    Here's a good read for ya'll while I write up my diet/exercise routine.

                                    Taken from http://www.menshealth.com/cda/articl...0-1208,00.html


                                    9 Ways to Go from Thick to Thin
                                    Time to Take Your Slimming Lessons

                                    By: Thomas Incledon M.S.,R.D.
                                    Edited by: Rob Gerth

                                    1. To lose weight, you must cut calories
                                    The low-fat/low-carbohydrate debate comes down to this: You still have to eat fewer calories than you burn if you want to lose weight. Every study I looked at shows this. The perfect weight-loss diet is the one you can live with, whether you cut fat, carbs, or some combination.
                                    2. Use whey to cut waist
                                    Protein-rich foods put more distance between hunger pangs. And the fuller you feel between meals, the easier it is to avoid binges. The best food for appetite destruction: whey protein.

                                    A daily shake made with two scoops of whey protein, fruit (fresh or frozen berries or a banana), and water or crushed ice will improve your middle line. You can buy whey protein at any good health-food store.

                                    3. Meat kills fat
                                    When you eat, your body has to expend calories to digest the food. Protein causes this inner fire to burn the hottest, followed by carbohydrates, followed by fat. Animal proteins increase thermogenesis more than vegetable proteins, so the best calorie-burning foods are lean meats. So eat some protein at each meal--build your dinner around lean chicken, beef, or pork. That way, you're burning the most calories through digestion at the end of the day, when your metabolism is slower.


                                    4. Remember these letters: BCAA
                                    Amino acids are the building blocks of protein, and the branched-chain amino acids--leucine, isoleucine, and valine--are the best of the bunch. BCAAs are as close to magic foods as we'll ever get. They help you recover from hard workouts by reducing the protein breakdown within your muscles; they increase testosterone and growth hormone, your body's most important fat-fighting and muscle-building hormones; and they have their most profound effect when you're following law number 1 and cutting calories in order to lose weight.

                                    For starters, try to get at least 10 grams (g) of BCAAs a day. Since they're most abundant in meat and dairy products, you can get the better part of that by following laws 2 and 3. (Two scoops of whey protein and 3 ounces of beef contains 10 g of BCAAs.)

                                    You can also buy BCAA supplements (which, you should be aware, are expensive). Look for supplements that are 50 percent leucine, 25 percent isoleucine, and 25 percent valine. Start off with 10 g per day, and wait a month before bumping up the dose. The maximum useful intake is probably 60 g a day from food and supplements.


                                    5. If it's fryin', you're dyin'
                                    One thing that every weight-loss researcher and diet-plan author can agree on: Highly refined carbohydrates, such as fructose-sweetened beverages and low-fiber breads, are a terrible idea. Among the many sins of Mountain Dew and Twinkies is the way they cause your blood sugar to spike soon after eating. What goes up fast comes down fast, and you end up feeling tired and hungry much sooner than you should. Goodbye diet, hello diabetes.

                                    Now we know of a way to make refined carbohydrates even worse: Fry them. Researchers have found a suspected carcinogen called acrylamide in such products as potato chips and french fries. A ?suspected? carcinogen isn't the same as a proven carcinogen, such as tobacco smoke. But anytime I get a chance to talk you out of eating worthless snack foods, I do it.


                                    6. Food goes farther with fiber
                                    Fiber's effect is the opposite of snack foods'. When you have fiber in your stomach, food takes longer to enter the bloodstream, and your blood-sugar level stays steady. The benefits: You'll have a more consistent energy supply and less between-meal hunger. The only potential downside is that you won't get as much reading done in the bathroom. What slows down your blood sugar at the front end speeds things up at the back end.

                                    I could give you the usual riff about eating more broccoli and raisin bran, but you can safely and easily take in more fiber by using a supplement. (MD Labs' Fiber-Psyll is a good one; go to MDlabs.com.) Start with 7 to 12g a day, mixing some with water and drinking it before your main meals.


                                    Calcium Without the Risk


                                    7. Count on calcium
                                    Recently, nutrition researchers discovered that dairy and other calcium-rich foods help you stay lean, prevent osteoporosis, and possibly prevent colon cancer. The recommendation is to take in 1,000 to 1,200 milligrams (mg) of calcium a day. (A cup of milk contains 300.) Unfortunately, too much calcium may increase the risk of prostate cancer. The tragic number seems to be 600 mg a day from dairy products. And what's the point of having a V-shaped torso if your prostate has a spare tire?

                                    8. Alpha males use omega-3 fats
                                    Each year, we learn more about the health benefits of omega-3 polyunsaturated fats, which are found in fish, nuts, seeds, and flaxseed and fish oils. (And also in the cool, orange-flavored supplement Coromega, available at iherb.com.) These health benefits--less risk of heart disease and diabetes, for example--are great on their own. But omega-3 fats contribute to a better physique as well.

                                    For example, omega-3s reduce inflammation throughout your body. That not only prevents heart attacks (inflammation in the tissues surrounding blood vessels is a major cause) but also helps your muscles recover faster from workouts. Bigger, less-inflamed muscles mean a faster metabolism, and speeding up your metabolism is crucial when you're trying to get lean.

                                    If you don't eat fish twice a week and can't stomach fish-oil supplements, try eggs high in omega-3s, which are found in the dairy case, next to the regular eggs. You can eat four of them a day without any negative effect on your cholesterol levels.


                                    9. Make a plan
                                    Next time you read a weight-loss story in a newspaper or magazine, count the number of disparaging references to popular diets. Based on the way diet gurus trash their competitors, you'd think there was no plan on earth that actually works. But the truth is that you can't lose weight without a diet.

                                    You must have a plan. The more sophisticated it is, and the more tailored to your likes and dislikes, the better. You can't wing it and expect to see results.

                                    Remember the Basics
                                    I won't offer you the perfect weight-loss regimen, because research has yet to discover one. But even the worst plan is more likely to succeed than no plan at all. The best plan is likely to include these elements:

                                    Meals and snacks are based on some lean protein source--fish, eggs, dairy, meat.

                                    More meals are better than fewer. Five or six meals and snacks a day is ideal.

                                    Low-fat and high-fat diets can both work, but one that cuts almost all fat is doomed.

                                    Nobody ever became obese from eating the best carbohydrates--fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. And nobody ever died from skipping potatoes, pasta, rice, popcorn, and Wonder Bread.
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                                    • Ben.Z
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                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 1164

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Smurfette
                                      Congrats on your loss!

                                      I am also trying to lose at least 35 pounds, want to be about 95 lbs again (I am only 4'9") Having a big problem with finding time and the modivation to excerise, with 2 small children and work I find by after supper I'm ready to go to bed myself. I love pepsi drink about 2 2L a day of it and not a big fan of fish even though I'm from a fishing community. lol
                                      Am going to re read your posts and try to learn some stuff from it. Thanks for the info.


                                      Smurfette
                                      Smurfette,

                                      Toss out the pepsi and never look back!

                                      You have to MAKE time... it's never easy, but well worth the effort.
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                                      • tony299
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                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #69
                                        do you have a clear full body pic of when you weighed 100lbs more. That first pic doesnt look like you weighted 100 lbs more maybe 40 lbs.

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                                        • SleazeQueen
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                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 634

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Smurfette
                                          I love pepsi drink about 2 2L a day of it
                                          My doctor told me that I could lose 20 lbs in one year by making one simple change. Switching from Dr. Pepper to diet colas. I lost 25 just making that switch.
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                                          • punker barbie
                                            Meow Meow!!!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 10232

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by WTS - Ben
                                            Here's the deal... I'd like to share my success story with you, and hopefully help some of the overweight webmasters here at GFY. Only thing I ask in return is that you check out my sig... Ok, on with it already...

                                            Fat to Fit... Diet, exercise, and a new way of life... There will be no easy answers in this thread, no fly by night diets etc... this is a lifestyle change that will effect everything you do.

                                            I lost over 100 lbs in less then 1 year... pics below...

                                            Anyway... Here's the basics. If you'd like further info on any specific detail, lmk and I'll enlighten you.

                                            Bottom line, if your healthy... you'll live longer, look better, FEEL better, be more productive, and MAKE MORE MONEY!!! no shit!

                                            Here's the rundown...

                                            Change your diet! Eat clean. This means no fast food, fried shit, BEER(switch to liquer), or things high in sugar. Easiest way to do this is to prepare your meals... Chicken or Fish and broccoli is the mother of all meals... keep that mentality. Proteins, complex carbs, and fiber should be the building blocks of your diet... and you need all of them daily.

                                            Next, learn portion control... Cup your hands together as if you would drink from a pool of water. See how much you could fit in there??? That's 1 meal portion! A typical restaurant lunch/dinner plate will have roughly 2-3 portions. Learn to leave food on your plate, or take leftovers to eat later...

                                            Now that you've learned portion control... We don't want you to starve yourself, so eat a meal every 3 hours! Eat less more often and you'll crank your metabolism to full blast! It takes roughly 3 hours to digest 1 meal ( suggested portion ). This forces your body to constantly be digesting, thus burning more calories.

                                            Think of it this way... If you throw a huge log on a fire it will take hours to burn up and not give off much heat at all. However if you put a bunch of little sticks on the fire, it will burn hot and fast. Your metabolism works the same way with food!

                                            Next... Drink water!!! put the soda down, and attempt to drink 2 gallons of water a day!

                                            Ok, this concludes the first lesson... "Diet and portion control"


                                            here's my pics...



                                            next lesson... "Calories IN vs Calories OUT!"

                                            and remember... see sig!




                                            Ok, now I'm open for questions...


                                            Congrats man!!!!
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                                            • More Booze
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                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 5116

                                              #72
                                              Lots of good info in this thread.

                                              *bookmarked*

                                              Thanks Ben.

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                                              • AVM
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                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 1890

                                                #73
                                                3 days in a row of slightly poor eating and I gain like 10 lbs. Obviously this is normal I guess.
                                                I know the feeling.

                                                I went through a huge weight loss myself, and for the past two years my weight has been drastically fluciating. Never to the point of where I was once at, I sure as fuck won't let that happen to myself. But still changing drastically nevertheless. I go between 170lbs-205lbs. Gaining anywhere from 10-20lbs in a single month. Once that happens, I diet, lose as much as I gained, and go back to "conventional" and habitual, fast-food eating. Gain the weight back, diet, gain it back, diet, etc - It is a continuous cycle, and it's very disheartening to say the least.

                                                Complete and utter discouragement, that makes you never want to eat healthy. Why? Because you eat right for five days? Ten days? Shit even, 30-days of dieting - Then cheat for two days straight, and gain everything back. Talk about a fucking downer. And does being down make you want to do? Eat some more. It seems people like Me and Brad are destined for failure, when it's not really our fault. We did not know better when we were younger - so we ate, we enjoyed, as any kid does. Then, once we hit the age of "enlightenment", as an older teen -- We realize we're overweight and it's time for a change. We make this change, succeed, and then bamm - Get hit with the utter reality, that your life/diet plan will never be the same. That you can never go back to that type of eating. Meanwhile, you've others eating like this on a full time basis - Gaining insiginificant amounts of weight.

                                                Anyway - We've our little run ins every so often Brad, but in all seriousness, good luck with that man. I know it's hard, I'm on a diet right now, trying to play "catch up" with last months weight. My spirits are broken, and cheating is so tempting - And I'm only on day 5.
                                                Last edited by AVM; 09-21-2004, 12:12 PM.

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                                                • Ben.Z
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                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 1164

                                                  #74
                                                  Thanks Shirley!


                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                  do you have a clear full body pic of when you weighed 100lbs more. That first pic doesnt look like you weighted 100 lbs more maybe 40 lbs.
                                                  In that pic I'm exactly 255lbs and hide my weight well...
                                                  Now I'm 155lbs and VERY lean.
                                                  Keep in mind how tall I am.
                                                  I'm roughly 5% bf and stand 6' tall.

                                                  I think one fat-ben pic is enough.
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                                                  • BradM
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                                                    • Dec 2003
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                                                    #75
                                                    AVM: Runins? Nah man I like you a lot. I just argue with people that's my personality and I'm sorry if it has pissed you off before.


                                                    As for the disheartening... word I hear you. I am getting pretty depressed about it. Which is why I am calling a personal trainer after work and going to start working out.
                                                    And I am going to follow Ben's suggestions above and look into the trans fats and stuff. I'm going to change my life. I want to be 200lbs by January and I think it is possible considering I lost 50 in 2-3 months, so I think I can lose 40 in 3.

                                                    Stick with it... it's your life. I get really frustrated at times and want to gorge... and I have but then I think about how guilty I feel and how upset I get with myself and I throw away the rest of the shit and get into moods like this.

                                                    I think Ben has the right idea. Have a cheating day where you totally eat some bad stuff once a week.

                                                    I'm going to use this mentality and see how it goes for a month or so

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                                                    • AVM
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                                                      #76
                                                      Yo Ben!

                                                      Not that you're some diet guru - I believe we're on equal wavelengths in regard to this topic. So, I am not looking for a scientific answer. Looking for an opinion - Curious though, what's your feelings on TrimSpa/Stacker II 'fat burning-appetite descreasing' products?

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                                                      • Raven
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                                                        #77
                                                        Oh, and diet soda isn't "bad"
                                                        Actually, 'diet' anything with nutrasweet in it can be very bad, which is why many of the diet products now contain splenda....

                                                        Soda is bad for you because of other ingredients.....like the carbonation....

                                                        You've given some great advice.....I believe, that, when you go into a supermarket...you buy 'real' food, like veggies and fruits...and meats, foul and fish...leave the packaged products alone...and don't eat anything you can't pronounce.

                                                        For those of us who don't have time to go to a gym, walk around the house or up and down stairs for twenty minutes. If you can't afford free weights, pick up two books and lift them....there are ways around this lifestyle.
                                                        Raven

                                                        ~RETIRED~

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                                                        • hova
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                                                          #78
                                                          you're really sexy
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                                                          • CumSensei
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                                                            #79
                                                            Cool shit man

                                                            Doin my own thing since the first of this month

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                                                            Info can be found there...lost 13.2pounds in less then 2 weeks sofar
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                                                            • galleryseek
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by AVM
                                                              Yo Ben!

                                                              Not that you're some diet guru - I believe we're on equal wavelengths in regard to this topic. So, I am not looking for a scientific answer. Looking for an opinion - Curious though, what's your feelings on TrimSpa/Stacker II 'fat burning-appetite descreasing' products?
                                                              Well, I'm a fitness trainer, so I could give you my thoughts on that stuff.

                                                              As far as supplements that decrease or modify your body's natural reactions, are BAD. Your body is a very delicate, inctricate system that sends you messages and alerts whenever it is in need of something. For example, you put your hand in fire. Your response is to take it out, why? Because it will get burnt.

                                                              Hunger is the SAME thing. If you neglect your hunger, your body will become a fat storing MACHINE, meaning ANYTHING that can be converted to fat that you eat when you consistently avoid hunger, will be turned into fat.

                                                              That is why 3 meals is not frequent enough. 5 smaller meals however, is more natural and more instinctive for your body. Our genetic foundation came from scavengers who ate small meals when they could, throughout the day. So when you DON'T do that, your body reacts to that as if there is a shortage of food, and will STORE FAT! Make sense?

                                                              So you have to make sure you have at least 5 meals during the day, this way, you won't be hungry, and you'll lose fat.



                                                              oh -- and, I believe you should only take a multi-vitamin at first, and simply focus on changing your lifestyle - adapting to a new one, including basic diet principles and exercise. that alone will yield great results.
                                                              Last edited by galleryseek; 09-21-2004, 12:30 PM.

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                                                              • Ben.Z
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by AVM
                                                                Yo Ben!

                                                                Not that you're some diet guru - I believe we're on equal wavelengths in regard to this topic. So, I am not looking for a scientific answer. Looking for an opinion - Curious though, what's your feelings on TrimSpa/Stacker II 'fat burning-appetite descreasing' products?
                                                                well, most of that stuff is junk these days, as the only active ingredient that worked has now become illegal. Ephedrine. Not that you couldn't find it if you knew where to look... and sure, the stuff works like crazy, but it's not a healthy way to drop the lbs... it's very hard on your heart, and with overweight folks, this is the main concern. people were dropping dead of heart attacks off ephedrine, thus the recent outlaw.

                                                                in the past, I used pure ephedrine supps. it was more or less legal-crank. it kept me thin for awhile, but it never lasted. this was well before I started down the "right" path...

                                                                All my success has been with "natural" dieting and exercise. I refuse to put any of that stuff in my body now. As it also left me feeling like a car wreck afterwards anyway...

                                                                Now I get my ups from running (runners high), and caffeine. Both keep me burning calories during my off time.

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                                                                • Ben.Z
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by BradM


                                                                  I think Ben has the right idea. Have a cheating day where you totally eat some bad stuff once a week.

                                                                  I'm going to use this mentality and see how it goes for a month or so
                                                                  good to hear! keep us posted on your progress would you?
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                                                                  • Ben.Z
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Raven
                                                                    Actually, 'diet' anything with nutrasweet in it can be very bad, which is why many of the diet products now contain splenda....

                                                                    Soda is bad for you because of other ingredients.....like the carbonation....

                                                                    You've given some great advice.....I believe, that, when you go into a supermarket...you buy 'real' food, like veggies and fruits...and meats, foul and fish...leave the packaged products alone...and don't eat anything you can't pronounce.

                                                                    For those of us who don't have time to go to a gym, walk around the house or up and down stairs for twenty minutes. If you can't afford free weights, pick up two books and lift them....there are ways around this lifestyle.
                                                                    Great advice Raven.

                                                                    eating "Fresh" foods is the first step to success for sure.

                                                                    Originally posted by hova
                                                                    you're really sexy
                                                                    why thank you!

                                                                    Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                                    Cool shit man

                                                                    Doin my own thing since the first of this month

                                                                    http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...0&pagenumber=1

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                                                                    badass dude! keep up the good work!

                                                                    Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                    Well, I'm a fitness trainer, so I could give you my thoughts on that stuff.

                                                                    As far as supplements that decrease or modify your body's natural reactions, are BAD. Your body is a very delicate, inctricate system that sends you messages and alerts whenever it is in need of something. For example, you put your hand in fire. Your response is to take it out, why? Because it will get burnt.

                                                                    Hunger is the SAME thing. If you neglect your hunger, your body will become a fat storing MACHINE, meaning ANYTHING that can be converted to fat that you eat when you consistently avoid hunger, will be turned into fat.

                                                                    That is why 3 meals is not frequent enough. 5 smaller meals however, is more natural and more instinctive for your body. Our genetic foundation came from scavengers who ate small meals when they could, throughout the day. So when you DON'T do that, your body reacts to that as if there is a shortage of food, and will STORE FAT! Make sense?

                                                                    So you have to make sure you have at least 5 meals during the day, this way, you won't be hungry, and you'll lose fat.



                                                                    oh -- and, I believe you should only take a multi-vitamin at first, and simply focus on changing your lifestyle - adapting to a new one, including basic diet principles and exercise. that alone will yield great results.
                                                                    i like this response allot better then the one i gave, disregard mine!

                                                                    i don't want to give the impression that the ephedrine had LASTING results. What galleryseak said is on the money... it will jack you... in a bad way.
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                                                                    • tical
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      you dont look 100lbs overweight in the first pic

                                                                      what were your stats and what are they now?
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                                                                      • galleryseek
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by WTS - Ben

                                                                        i like this response allot better then the one i gave, disregard mine!

                                                                        lol yours was all truthful too.

                                                                        I think you need to post another before picture, it's in demand!

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                                                                        • AVM
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by tical
                                                                          you dont look 100lbs overweight in the first pic

                                                                          what were your stats and what are they now?
                                                                          Truth be told, 40lbs were accounted for by his penis.

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                                                                          • Ben.Z
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by AVM
                                                                            Truth be told, 40lbs were accounted for by his penis.


                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                            lol yours was all truthful too.

                                                                            I think you need to post another before picture, it's in demand!
                                                                            ok ok... let me dig something up.

                                                                            Originally posted by tical
                                                                            you dont look 100lbs overweight in the first pic

                                                                            what were your stats and what are they now?
                                                                            Then - 6'0" 255lbs 46" waist...

                                                                            Now - 6'0" 155lbs 28" waist...

                                                                            here's a full view of me in all my glory!


                                                                            and one of the originals i posted of my progress for comparison...


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                                                                            • galleryseek
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              damn, you just don't look 255 lbs in that pic. you must have some big legs, I would say it appears as though you would also have a big frame as well, but your recent picture doesn't really suggest that though. heh

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                                                                              • Ben.Z
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                i just re-read my last post and i'm killin myslef! hahahaha...
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                                                                                • Nanda
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Congrats! Nice of you to share your story! Keep it up!
                                                                                  My Ex-husband SKULL-BUITRE ran off to Colombia with OUR money and screwed me after I helped him build OUR business.
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                                                                                  • Ben.Z
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                    damn, you just don't look 255 lbs in that pic. you must have some big legs, I would say it appears as though you would also have a big frame as well, but your recent picture doesn't really suggest that though. heh
                                                                                    Yeah... I wore the weight well.
                                                                                    Big legs, arms, and very thick trunk/mid section.
                                                                                    ...but no shit. 255lbs in that pic.
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                                                                                    • robfantasy
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      great post man, what is the corerlation betweed sodium and being cut?
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                                                                                      • Melvin the Dude
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        amaznig results....

                                                                                        what were your excercise schedule & routine while you changed your eating habits ?

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                                                                                        • galleryseek
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          for those looking to build mass:

                                                                                          I've posted this picture awhile ago, but it's me in the same shirt roughly 3 years apart.



                                                                                          --mind you, results like that can be made in a shorter time frame, my first 2 years i really didn't know what i was doing diet-wise and wasted a lot of time.

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                                                                                          • tical
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                            for those looking to build mass:

                                                                                            I've posted this picture awhile ago, but it's me in the same shirt roughly 3 years apart.



                                                                                            --mind you, results like that can be made in a shorter time frame, my first 2 years i really didn't know what i was doing diet-wise and wasted a lot of time.
                                                                                            any anobolics or prohormones?
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                                                                                            • Ben.Z
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by robfantasy
                                                                                              great post man, what is the corerlation betweed sodium and being cut?
                                                                                              sodium makes you hold water. if you want to be shredded ( very vascular ), avoid exess sodium and it will be much easier.

                                                                                              that said, anything in moderation isn't going to kill you. i drink red-bull often before going to the gym and it doesn't effect me too much... but if i want my shit to REALLY POP, i'll stop drinking it for a week or two and I'll cut right up.

                                                                                              also, the more water you drink, the more cut you'll be...
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                                                                                              • robfantasy
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by WTS - Ben
                                                                                                sodium makes you hold water. if you want to be shredded ( very vascular ), avoid exess sodium and it will be much easier.

                                                                                                that said, anything in moderation isn't going to kill you. i drink red-bull often before going to the gym and it doesn't effect me too much... but if i want my shit to REALLY POP, i'll stop drinking it for a week or two and I'll cut right up.

                                                                                                also, the more water you drink, the more cut you'll be...
                                                                                                cool so about 1 diet coke a day would be cool? i drink about 2 a day
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                                                                                                • galleryseek
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by tical
                                                                                                  any anobolics or prohormones?
                                                                                                  nooo. the only thing i took back then was protein shakes, but never consistently. then i gained a lactose intolerance and i couldn't even drink lactose-free protein shakes.

                                                                                                  so now I don't even take any supplements whatsoever. im gonna try to find something that'll work though in terms of protein shakes.

                                                                                                  it's very possible to get some good size without resorting to drugs. i was/am very consistent about my workouts. i also strive for new goals weight-lifting wise.

                                                                                                  my barbell flat bench press max is 275
                                                                                                  my flat dumbbell press is 120 lb dumbbells for 5 reps
                                                                                                  preacher curl 135x6 reps
                                                                                                  barbell shoulder press 185x5
                                                                                                  dumbbell shoulder press 90x5
                                                                                                  deadlift 375x4

                                                                                                  i'm 6'0 185

                                                                                                  all about intensity and forcing an adequate adaptive response.

                                                                                                  i still have a LOT of room for improvement and I can't wait till i'm reppin the 3 plates !

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                                                                                                  • pushpills
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Good for you! The struggle with weight is something so many people deal with, no matter how rich or poor you are.


                                                                                                    If you want to lose or maintain weight, you have to commit to it. Once you get going, you'll be happy, and want to continue.


                                                                                                    I never get more than 15 pounds overweight since I was 16.


                                                                                                    You can get new cars, new chicks, new gucci wallets, but you cant get a new body without alot of work over time.


                                                                                                    Congrats man!

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                                                                                                    • Ben.Z
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Melvin the Dude
                                                                                                      amaznig results....

                                                                                                      what were your excercise schedule & routine while you changed your eating habits ?
                                                                                                      I took up running and lifting free weights.

                                                                                                      I'll post better details of my routine tonight...

                                                                                                      Right now I'm off to the house, and then the gym!
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