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  • buddyjuf
    • Sep 2026

    #1

    (Philosophy Discussion #2) Let's talk about LYING!

    what do you think about lying?

    good or bad?

    does it depend?

    what about what the bible says about it?



    discuss
  • abyss_al
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    • Oct 2003
    • 15605

    #2
    lying is bad.... but it keeps people from going apeshit....it regulates... just like the bible does.... just another book of laws written by a group of guys...great story... highly recommended to read
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    • buddyjuf

      #3
      is lying always immoral?

      when is it not?
      why is it not?
      how is it not?

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      • Ironhorse
        Pixel Pusher
        • Nov 2002
        • 7094

        #4
        Originally posted by bdjuf
        what do you think about lying?

        good or bad?

        does it depend?

        what about what the bible says about it?

        discuss
        Fuck the bible, kiddie bedtime stories
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        • abyss_al
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          • Oct 2003
          • 15605

          #5
          Originally posted by bdjuf
          is lying always immoral?

          when is it not?
          why is it not?
          how is it not?
          no

          telling it to kids
          because truth will scar them
          its a necessity in life to lie...sad but true.. makes things easier... people understand lies easier than comprehending truth
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          • buddyjuf

            #6
            Originally posted by abyss_al
            no

            telling it to kids
            because truth will scar them
            its a necessity in life to lie...sad but true.. makes things easier... people understand lies easier than comprehending truth
            then why is it that the bible teaches us that lying is immoral and bad? what does this say about the bible?

            I want someone who believes that all form of lying is wrong... that would be an interesting discussion

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            • European Lee
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              • Dec 2002
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              #7
              A good lie is made up of 60% truth

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              • chowda
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                • Jun 2003
                • 9527

                #8
                bro, if she's a tranny, wouldnt u want to find out before it gets out of hand? lying = bad!
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                • buddyjuf

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chowda
                  bro, if she's a tranny, wouldnt u want to find out before it gets out of hand? lying = bad!

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                  • abyss_al
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 15605

                    #10
                    Originally posted by European Lee
                    A good lie is made up of 60% truth

                    Regards,

                    Lee
                    interesting
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                    • lb_vee
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                      • May 2004
                      • 886

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chowda
                      bro, if she's a tranny, wouldnt u want to find out before it gets out of hand? lying = bad!
                      In that particular case, I agree, lying is bad.

                      You're buying a car, you know you can afford to pay fullprice + markup but you tell the dealer you cant so they reduce the price...is lying bad in this case??

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                      • buddyjuf

                        #12
                        Originally posted by a1escorts
                        In that particular case, I agree, lying is bad.

                        You're buying a car, you know you can afford to pay fullprice + markup but you tell the dealer you cant so they reduce the price...is lying bad in this case??
                        to me, lying is good or bad depending on the situation

                        it's just like a math equation

                        if the BENEFITS of the lie are MORE POSITIVE than the NEGATIVENESS of the lie itself, then the lie becomes good

                        if not, the lie was bad


                        now how interesting is that?
                        I surprise myself with theories sometimes

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                        • lb_vee
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                          • May 2004
                          • 886

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bdjuf
                          to me, lying is good or bad depending on the situation

                          it's just like a math equation

                          if the BENEFITS of the lie are MORE POSITIVE than the NEGATIVENESS of the lie itself, then the lie becomes good

                          if not, the lie was bad


                          now how interesting is that?
                          I surprise myself with theories sometimes
                          Thats true, if a lie is going to benefit me, then its not a lie, its more of a story Im telling.

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                          • buddyjuf

                            #14
                            who here believes lying is 100% bad?

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                            • abyss_al
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bdjuf
                              to me, lying is good or bad depending on the situation

                              it's just like a math equation

                              if the BENEFITS of the lie are MORE POSITIVE than the NEGATIVENESS of the lie itself, then the lie becomes good

                              if not, the lie was bad


                              now how interesting is that?
                              I surprise myself with theories sometimes
                              so the outcome of a lie is the basis of the lie being good or bad, even though its still a lie
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                              • abyss_al
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                                • Oct 2003
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by bdjuf
                                who here believes lying is 100% bad?
                                anyone?
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                                • buddyjuf

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by abyss_al
                                  so the outcome of a lie is the basis of the lie being good or bad, even though its still a lie
                                  exactly

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                                  • lb_vee
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                                    • May 2004
                                    • 886

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by abyss_al
                                    anyone?
                                    Bueller
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                                    Bueller

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                                    • Cassie
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 3139

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bdjuf
                                      then why is it that the bible teaches us that lying is immoral and bad? what does this say about the bible?

                                      I want someone who believes that all form of lying is wrong... that would be an interesting discussion
                                      all form of lying is bad and i believe that. however, i do understand the small lies and at times i have done the same. by the same token, i got caught in a big one that really hurt one of my friends a very long time ago and from that point on, i decided that no matter how badly the truth hurts, i will state it plainly and unabridged.

                                      most people dont like the truth but smart people will respect you for it and the truth can never come back to bite you.

                                      those who cant handle the truth live in denial and those type of people i want nothing to do with. believe me when i tell you karma came back to me and i never want to go though that again. the karma i could deal with, it's the hurt of another that i couldn't.
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                                      • lb_vee
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                                        • May 2004
                                        • 886

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bdjuf
                                        who here believes lying is 100% bad?
                                        No!! Not all forms are bad, just a few

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                                        • buddyjuf

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Cassie
                                          all form of lying is bad and i believe that. however, i do understand the small lies and at times i have done the same. by the same token, i got caught in a big one that really hurt one of my friends a very long time ago and from that point on, i decided that no matter how badly the truth hurts, i will state it plainly and unabridged.

                                          most people dont like the truth but smart people will respect you for it and the truth can never come back to bite you.

                                          those who cant handle the truth live in denial and those type of people i want nothing to do with. believe me when i tell you karma came back to me and i never want to go though that again. the karma i could deal with, it's the hurt of another that i couldn't.
                                          excellent, for the essense of this thread, can you please take the side that all lies are bad? We can discuss about that for a good while

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                                          • Kimmykim
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                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 16015

                                            #22
                                            Are you referencing sins of omission and sins of comission together?

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                                            • abyss_al
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                                              #23
                                              so where does the bible come in for you?

                                              do you believe we were created by God?

                                              or something else?

                                              would the bible have affencted your path of buisness if you were a strong believer?

                                              would you still lie?
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                                              • buddyjuf

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                so where does the bible come in for you?

                                                do you believe we were created by God?

                                                or something else?

                                                would the bible have affencted your path of buisness if you were a strong believer?

                                                would you still lie?
                                                for me?

                                                the bible is nothing else but the opinion of a group of people. I agree with some things, disagree with others. The bible is an attempt to teach pure morality, but fails in many ways, because of self contrediction in many passages as well as conflict with other religions, and not allowing people to keep an open mind about other religions.

                                                I don't know how we are created, I do not take time to think about that. What I do take time for instead, is HOW to live my life because I am immensely fortunate to be here. Carpe Diem

                                                If I was a strong believer, of course the bible would have affected my decision! The bible says "to lust is a sin". A strong believer will therefore believe this passage and think of porn as sinful, something that will prevent him from accessing to heaver.

                                                The bible also sees lying as a sin, and immoral, so I would avoid lies at all costs.

                                                That's the thing with the bible, it's a "brainwashing tool" that comes from people who "BELIEVE they know the truth about morality and life"

                                                and that is why I am not a believer
                                                what I DO believe in, is MY philosophy of life, and of course, that may NOT be the truth, but it is my opinion and perception

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                                                • Tom_PMs
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                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 2049

                                                  #25
                                                  If this goes with the other thread about truth, shouldnt this be about untruths? It's not at all the same after all..

                                                  truth and untruth are conditions.

                                                  Lying and *telling the truth* are human qualities.

                                                  Anywho, lying sucks. Liars suck. Thats about it.

                                                  You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                  • abyss_al
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                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                    for me?

                                                    the bible is nothing else but the opinion of a group of people. I agree with some things, disagree with others. The bible is an attempt to teach pure morality, but fails in many ways, because of self contrediction in many passages as well as conflict with other religions, and not allowing people to keep an open mind about other religions.

                                                    I don't know how we are created, I do not take time to think about that. What I do take time for instead, is HOW to live my life because I am immensely fortunate to be here. Carpe Diem

                                                    If I was a strong believer, of course the bible would have affected my decision! The bible says "to lust is a sin". A strong believer will therefore believe this passage and think of porn as sinful, something that will prevent him from accessing to heaver.

                                                    The bible also sees lying as a sin, and immoral, so I would avoid lies at all costs.

                                                    That's the thing with the bible, it's a "brainwashing tool" that comes from people who "BELIEVE they know the truth about morality and life"

                                                    and that is why I am not a believer
                                                    what I DO believe in, is MY philosophy of life, and of course, that may NOT be the truth, but it is my opinion and perception
                                                    good stuff
                                                    i am a stong believer of myself...i believe in me and like you said...seize the day as much as possible and enjoy every moment of it
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                                                    • pornguy
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                                                      #27
                                                      Telling lies is bad.

                                                      Truth Good, Lies Bad!
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