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  • WarChild
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    • Jan 2003
    • 17263

    #101
    Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
    Cops do make their own laws and that is the problem.
    Some cops might. Many do not.

    Some pornographers make child porn. Most do not.

    Is it a fair statement to say "Pornographers make child porn and that is the problem."?

    I think you left out the word "some".
    .

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    • newbreed
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      • Nov 2003
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      #102
      Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
      Not at all. I don't consider myself to be the underdog. I am alot smarter than any cop. I wouldn't qualify as a police officer since my IQ is too high. Police departments frown on smart people since it is believed that intelligent people will get bored with the tedium and mindlessness of police work. I also make alot more money than a cop. As individuals, cops aren't bad people but as a group they act like any other institution - protecting the group above all others. Why do you think alot of segments of society don't trust the police? There is too much of an "us versus them" mentality.
      Spoken by someone who is sad they couldn't make it as a public servant.

      Oh, and the standard bullshit I make more anyway crap is old and lame man. You wouldn't last 2 fucking weeks on the street in the real world man, just a little boy hiding behin his "I think I have a clue" dream world.

      Not just an underdog at this point, but also someone who wouldn't qualify, sucks to be you man, sucks huge donkey cock.

      How's that donkey cock taste?
      Last edited by newbreed; 09-19-2004, 10:52 PM.

      Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
      I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
      fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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      • newbreed
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        • Nov 2003
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        #103
        Originally posted by WarChild
        Some cops might. Many do not.

        Some pornographers make child porn. Most do not.

        Is it a fair statement to say "Pornographers make child porn and that is the problem."?

        I think you left out the word "some".
        Excellent example.

        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
        I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
        fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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        • Giorgio_Xo
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          • Mar 2003
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          #104
          Originally posted by xanx
          and you are proud of that?

          I'm starting to think maybe a cop fucked your wife/girlfriend and that's why you harbor this animosity towards them. Or maybe you're just an idiot; who knows.
          I did have a friend that was arrested without grounds long ago but I wouldn't consider that the issue. I read about too many cases of people arrested just for the color of their skin or how in some states almost 15% of death row inmates were exonorated because of purposefully tainted or 'missing' evidence. I don't trust the police because all you need to carry a gun and arrest people is a high school diploma.

          The reason we had K9 units banned was that a dog doesn't understand the law nor the Constitution. Under California law only a registered and trained peace officer can perform those duties. Dogs are an instrument of fear and serve no purpose.
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          • Marcus Aurelius
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            • Apr 2003
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            #105
            damn this thread got huge fast.

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            • newbreed
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              • Nov 2003
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              #106
              Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
              I did have a friend that was arrested without grounds long ago but I wouldn't consider that the issue. I read about too many cases of people arrested just for the color of their skin or how in some states almost 15% of death row inmates were exonorated because of purposefully tainted or 'missing' evidence. I don't trust the police because all you need to carry a gun and arrest people is a high school diploma.

              The reason we had K9 units banned was that a dog doesn't understand the law nor the Constitution. Under California law only a registered and trained peace officer can perform those duties. Dogs are an instrument of fear and serve no purpose.
              I only read this up to the point of "I read about"...

              Fuck you man, I read once where porn is a million dollar per person business. Guess what, it ain't fucking true. So, what have we learned here today? Don't believe everything you read, you might not get the whole story.

              Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
              I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
              fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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              • Giorgio_Xo
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                • Mar 2003
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                #107
                Originally posted by newbreed
                Spoken by someone who is sad they couldn't make it as a public servant.

                Oh, and the standard bullshit I make more anyway crap is old and lame man. You wouldn't last 2 fucking weeks on the street in the real world man, just a little boy hiding behin his "I think I have a clue" dream world.

                Not just an underdog at this point, but also someone who wouldn't qualify, sucks to be you man, sucks huge donkey cock.

                How's that donkey cock taste?
                I have been shot at twice in my life. The second time I took a bullet in the chest in 1997. This was while I was living in South America. I was a target of a kidnap attempt. So I know the feeling of being shot.

                So newbreed go to your little child model and shut up.
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                • newbreed
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                  • Nov 2003
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                  I have been shot at twice in my life. The second time I took a bullet in the chest in 1997. This was while I was living in South America. I was a target of a kidnap attempt. So I know the feeling of being shot.

                  So newbreed go to your little child model and shut up.

                  Ahahahahhahahaha, twice. You're still a newb at being shot and shot at.

                  Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                  I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                  fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                  • Giorgio_Xo
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                    • Mar 2003
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by newbreed
                    I only read this up to the point of "I read about"...

                    Fuck you man, I read once where porn is a million dollar per person business. Guess what, it ain't fucking true. So, what have we learned here today? Don't believe everything you read, you might not get the whole story.
                    It sounds like you can't cut it as a webmaster.
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                    • xanx
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                      • Apr 2002
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                      I did have a friend that was arrested without grounds long ago but I wouldn't consider that the issue. I read about too many cases of people arrested just for the color of their skin or how in some states almost 15% of death row inmates were exonorated because of purposefully tainted or 'missing' evidence. I don't trust the police because all you need to carry a gun and arrest people is a high school diploma.

                      The reason we had K9 units banned was that a dog doesn't understand the law nor the Constitution. Under California law only a registered and trained peace officer can perform those duties. Dogs are an instrument of fear and serve no purpose.
                      someone else already pointed this out but it's true.

                      Not everyone could do police work and that's ok. Not everyone can do whatever it is you do; I'm sure. But you would get eaten alive in the first two weeks of being out on the street. And people like you all say the same things, "i make more money", "I'm so much smarter", yadda, yadda, yadda. Why not just say it's not something you could do. I would atleast respect you for that.

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                      • Giorgio_Xo
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                        • Mar 2003
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by xanx
                        someone else already pointed this out but it's true.

                        Not everyone could do police work and that's ok. Not everyone can do whatever it is you do; I'm sure. But you would get eaten alive in the first two weeks of being out on the street. And people like you all say the same things, "i make more money", "I'm so much smarter", yadda, yadda, yadda. Why not just say it's not something you could do. I would atleast respect you for that.
                        I have never even thought about being a cop. It is a job like any other job. I don't see it being any more difficult than most manual labor except for the donut breaks.
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                        • jade_dragon
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                          • May 2004
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                          #112
                          I guess you think once they got away they would not do it again.... right? I am glad they stopped them, these people have no reguard for other people's lives. I think if you have no reguard for the life of the many, the many should not have reguard for your life. I am happy none of the law abiding drivers were hurt nor the officers who chasing them. If you run from the police they assume the worst, what else would make you up the charge you face to the following?

                          Resisting arrest
                          careless operation
                          wreckless driving
                          excessive speed
                          and possibly man slaughter

                          The parents who sue for this are backing up in the minds of other children who will see it that mommy and daddy will come to the rescue when they fuck up. It is why all these kids walk around with no respect for other people and think they can do anything.
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                          • xclusive
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                            • Apr 2004
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                            #113
                            Stupid people die stupid deaths...

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                            • Giorgio_Xo
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by xclusive
                              Stupid people die stupid deaths...
                              It was crazy for her to run, agreed.
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                              • PiksalDesign
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                                • Mar 2003
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                                #115
                                i guess its to late for a sig spot.

                                this thread blew up QUICK.
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                                • 421Fill
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                                  • Nov 2001
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                                  #116
                                  it's so fucking easy to NEVER have a cop chasing you, risking your life along with innocent people's lives, you know... I for one know that I'll never be in that position. so, fuck the dipshits that ran, they knew the risk, they took the risk, fuck 'em. I'm just glad no innocent people were hurt or killed. I've seen too many car chases on the news end with innocent people being killed, that when it ends like this I feel relief.

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                                  • pornguy
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                                    • Mar 2003
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                                    #117
                                    The girls asked for a problem that they did not need. The cops let that chase go on far longer then they should have. The biggest mistake that the girls made was taking that chase into another state. Especially Georgia. They do not wait for the idiot driver to kill some one. They stop the car by bumping it. Just like you saw in the video.


                                    But due to the speed that the vehicles were traveling, the family will win a nice chunk of money from the police on that one.
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                                    • newbreed
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by pornguy
                                      The girls asked for a problem that they did not need. The biggest mistake that the girls made was...
                                      ...not stopping when they were signaled to stop.

                                      Good Point

                                      All you people who have never been in a pursuit, either as the suspect or the cop...lol, seriously.
                                      Last edited by newbreed; 09-19-2004, 11:54 PM.

                                      Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                      I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                      fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                      • newbreed
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                                        • Nov 2003
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by turbo
                                        it's so fucking easy to NEVER have a cop chasing you, risking your life along with innocent people's lives, you know... I for one know that I'll never be in that position. so, fuck the dipshits that ran, they knew the risk, they took the risk, fuck 'em. I'm just glad no innocent people were hurt or killed. I've seen too many car chases on the news end with innocent people being killed, that when it ends like this I feel relief.

                                        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                        I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                        fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                        • Bas
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by sake
                                          i have my opinion on things, everyone else has their own..

                                          nothing wrong with that
                                          Agree
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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
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                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo

                                            We had K9 units banned in our city.
                                            why?

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                                            • NiteRain
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                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                              What I don't understand is, there has been so much TV coverage about pursuits and everyone watches them and the end results are always a crash, run out of gas or kill someone.

                                              Why do people still do it.

                                              When do you you actually think someone can out run them. They just can't.
                                              Thing is, some people out run them, but could you see the heat running a show that shows people getting away with it. There are people robbing banks/art galleries and getting away with it , that reminds me did they ever catch those guys who stole the scream, and that other painting?
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                                              • GotGauge
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                The funny thing is that the same people who are upset that the cops "killed" these kids are the same sorts of people that scream bloody blue murder when the police FAIL to stop a car that goes on and smashes in to somebody else.

                                                "Where were the police? They could have stopped that car!" they all exclaimed in ignorant bliss.


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                                                • GotGauge
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                  The girls asked for a problem that they did not need. The cops let that chase go on far longer then they should have. The biggest mistake that the girls made was taking that chase into another state. Especially Georgia. They do not wait for the idiot driver to kill some one. They stop the car by bumping it. Just like you saw in the video.


                                                  But due to the speed that the vehicles were traveling, the family will win a nice chunk of money from the police on that one.
                                                  Sad, how lawsuits work!


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                                                  • CET
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                                                    #125
                                                    Stupid actions yield stupid consequences.
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                                                    • Kicker
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                                                      #126
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                                                      • mardigras
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                                                        • Feb 2003
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                                                        #127
                                                        I tell ya, it's that cRap music the kids listen to these days

                                                        I feel bad for the kids and their families but I feel better for the families of those other drivers on the road.
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                                                        • AcidMax
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                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by sake
                                                          Who forced who to crash?
                                                          When are people going to take responsibility for their own actions. These kids ran, they endangered hundreds of other people on the road. What happened if they went off the freeway into a schoolzone and hit a little innocent kid walking across the street? These two did it to themselves, the cops did what they needed to do to protect innocent bystanders. The two individuals in the car are the criminals, they could have just pulled over got a ticket and went home.

                                                          I am sorry two young people lost their lives but maybe it will help teenagers and adults alike think twice before they run from the cops.
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                                                          • fr33s3x
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by newbreed
                                                            RED + BLUE = Pull the Fuck over, regardless of the CRIMINALS speed. It's not a question of braveness, it's a question of following the law on the suspect's part.

                                                            The cops did NOT pick the speed dipshit, the suspect did.
                                                            So fucking true

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                                                            • TheWildcard
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                                                              • Jun 2004
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                                                              #130
                                                              the fucking kids didn't deserve death

                                                              I think the cops should get executed

                                                              now more cops will do it cuz they know they will get away with it

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                                                              • AcidMax
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                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by TheWildcard
                                                                the fucking kids didn't deserve death

                                                                I think the cops should get executed

                                                                now more cops will do it cuz they know they will get away with it
                                                                They didn't deserve death, but neither did any innocent people they could have killed. Those kids decided to run, they live or die with the consequences. It's not the cops fault, they were doing what they were trained to do, and thats protect and serve. They protected the majority.
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                                                                • Preacher
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  they got what they deserved. stupid idiots

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                                                                  • Tipsy
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    The amusing thing about this thread is that in the next breath half the people here saying how great the cop was will be bashing a muslim country for killing someone who also new full well the likely results of their actions.

                                                                    Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                    • Pleasurepays
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 11913

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                                                                      ... how hard is it to just stop the persuit, for christ sake there is two teenagers sitting in that car and those idiot cops act like someone just killed the president and is taking a runner.

                                                                      stop the persuit, the suspect slows down, 3 inter sections down the track keep following them in a civilian car, once they stop: arrest them. that easy, no need to kill two kids.

                                                                      and yes, I live in australia, but I am from germany and above is exactly what german police does.
                                                                      Well excuse the fuck out of us for not being German. Maybe if we tried to take over the world and caused the deaths of 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 people and then had our own country destroyed as a result, and had suffered that sort of trauma as a nation, we might be more suspicious of authority. However, we are not Germany and everyone in the US knows that if you go up against the police, the police win everytime.

                                                                      These kids killed themselves when they did not stop.

                                                                      Whats more stupid about your remarks is that you did not think for one second what they did and why they are running in the first place... did they plant a bomb, rape and kill a little girl, are they drug dealers etc etc . you don't care. in a typically european style, you see it only in terms of "us against them" and the police can't be right.

                                                                      i hope to see you one day, defending the people who just killed your entire family who refused to stop for police. you can explain to us how they should be let go and an APB should be put out for them because maybe they will be caught later (assuming they are not in a stolen car and someone actually knows who they are or can indentify them)

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                                                                      • RawAlex
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 9465

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Y'know, this is why the US is so deep in lawyers and so shallow in common sense.

                                                                        The girls broke the law. Big time. Without their breaking the law, none of the rest of this would have happened. The sole responsibility for the outcome rests on their own shoulders. At ANY time, they could have stopped and they would be alive today.

                                                                        The trooper did something that was an agressive move, but which ended the risk to the other citzens put at risk by these girls.

                                                                        Sadly, the legal system will focus in on the trooper's actions alone, and the "cause" act (the girls running) will not factor into the situation.

                                                                        Admit it. The legal system is fucked and needs to get fixed.

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                                                                        • Adultlexicon
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Those US cops are fucking retarted cowboys

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                                                                          • Adultlexicon
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                            Well excuse the fuck out of us for not being German. Maybe if we tried to take over the world and caused the deaths of 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 people and then had our own country destroyed as a result, and had suffered that sort of trauma as a nation, we might be more suspicious of authority. However, we are not Germany and everyone in the US knows that if you go up against the police, the police win everytime.

                                                                            These kids killed themselves when they did not stop.

                                                                            Whats more stupid about your remarks is that you did not think for one second what they did and why they are running in the first place... did they plant a bomb, rape and kill a little girl, are they drug dealers etc etc . you don't care. in a typically european style, you see it only in terms of "us against them" and the police can't be right.

                                                                            i hope to see you one day, defending the people who just killed your entire family who refused to stop for police. you can explain to us how they should be let go and an APB should be put out for them because maybe they will be caught later (assuming they are not in a stolen car and someone actually knows who they are or can indentify them)
                                                                            our european system just works alot better then that crazy redneck system of the US

                                                                            chasing kids to death what a shame

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                                                                            • steve90
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              oh well they could have just have killled an innocent person driveing that fast

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                                                                              • mardigras
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Tipsy
                                                                                The amusing thing about this thread is that in the next breath half the people here saying how great the cop was will be bashing a muslim country for killing someone who also new full well the likely results of their actions.

                                                                                Quite a world of difference in 2 punk ass kids endangering the lives of hundreds of innocents on the hwy and someone in a muslim country being stoned to death for being accused of adultery.
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                                                                                • webseth
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by newbreed
                                                                                  Cop didn't kill those people, they killed themselves when they didn't pull over.

                                                                                  That's what they get for running.
                                                                                  and thats why in america you will always live in fear. fear from criminals and fear from police. because nobody cares until its them or someone they love. and then its too late.

                                                                                  why cant you admit a suspended license isnt worth killing someone over? expired tags, ISNT worth killing. american police act like they're the local posse on horses taking off after the bank robber.

                                                                                  the rest of the world walks proudly into the 21st century while america clings to the 19th with police like this , capital punishment, and empire building

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                                                                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Some of you should be aware that no one here seriously thinks its not a horrible tragedy that two kids were killed.

                                                                                    Police are not stupid cowboys (spare me the BS of trying to find exceptions). they follow procedures and rules and work under an amazing amount of public and legal scrutiny. The rules and procedures follow are based on law and are regulated by the tolerances of the people of the states, cities and communities that they are created to protect.

                                                                                    People in Europe and the US have very different ideas of what the role of police should be. we all see these types of incidents from very different perspectives and we all have different ideas of where the ultimate liability for these types of events lay. the fact is that in the USA, as many have pointed out here already, we consider the girls to be risking the lives of others and its "those others" which we consider to be first in line to be protected. the fact that they died is terrible and tragic, but lives were most likely saved as well.

                                                                                    No one thinks the girls deserved to die. No one thinks anyone deserved to die for speeding. Americans simply think that innocent bystanders do not deserve to die or be killed by someone who is obviously willing to put people at risk and might have already killed people already.

                                                                                    If you are going to hate the USA.... thats fine. I am all for tha too. But do everyone a favor and at least make an intelligent and defensible argument and spare everyone the ignorant and shortsighted remarks.

                                                                                    We have a country of 260,000,000 people so spare me the irrelevent anologies of what they do or do not do in Holland.

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                                                                                    • Tom_PMs
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Well I sat and watched the video.. and having seen alot of those type of chaases on TV shows that dramatize them, I can say that that one will make the cut as a pretty awful accident/end result.

                                                                                      It seemed to me that they could have tried to box them in and use stop sticks a couple of times before a high speed pit maneuver, but whats done is done and they knew they were supposed to pull over.

                                                                                      You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                                                      • jimmyf
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                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 12651

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by newbreed
                                                                                        Cop didn't kill those people, they killed themselves when they didn't pull over.

                                                                                        That's what they get for running.
                                                                                        this is correct
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                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 14194

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                          It seemed to me that they could have tried to box them in and use stop sticks a couple of times before a high speed pit maneuver
                                                                                          Nearly impossible to box someone in who is narrowly zipping between cars/lanes.
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                                                                                          • sicone
                                                                                            Retired
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 18453

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Dont they know how easy SUV's roll over? But as stated already, the driver should have pulled over to begin with and damn all she had was a suspended license.

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                                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 14194

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by webseth

                                                                                              why cant you admit a suspended license isnt worth killing someone over? expired tags, ISNT worth killing. - Seth
                                                                                              And those things aren't worth running from the cops over. However, the cops don't know at the time that's all it's about. People who do what they did usually have reasons, like warrants. What if the cops just backed off and the occupants of the car had just stolen that one, got further down the road, then killed someone to take their car to try to throw the cops off?
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                                                                                              • sickkittens
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                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 25100

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                What were they originally being pulled over for?

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                                                                                                • sickkittens
                                                                                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 25100

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  And has there been a proven track record of less fatalities if the troopers eventually stopped chasing them? (Maybe track the cars plates and get them later)?

                                                                                                  People can only run so far.

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                                                                                                  • sperbonzo
                                                                                                    I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                    • 9750

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    Some of you should be aware that no one here seriously thinks its not a horrible tragedy that two kids were killed.

                                                                                                    Police are not stupid cowboys (spare me the BS of trying to find exceptions). they follow procedures and rules and work under an amazing amount of public and legal scrutiny. The rules and procedures follow are based on law and are regulated by the tolerances of the people of the states, cities and communities that they are created to protect.

                                                                                                    People in Europe and the US have very different ideas of what the role of police should be. we all see these types of incidents from very different perspectives and we all have different ideas of where the ultimate liability for these types of events lay. the fact is that in the USA, as many have pointed out here already, we consider the girls to be risking the lives of others and its "those others" which we consider to be first in line to be protected. the fact that they died is terrible and tragic, but lives were most likely saved as well.

                                                                                                    No one thinks the girls deserved to die. No one thinks anyone deserved to die for speeding. Americans simply think that innocent bystanders do not deserve to die or be killed by someone who is obviously willing to put people at risk and might have already killed people already.

                                                                                                    If you are going to hate the USA.... thats fine. I am all for tha too. But do everyone a favor and at least make an intelligent and defensible argument and spare everyone the ignorant and shortsighted remarks.

                                                                                                    We have a country of 260,000,000 people so spare me the irrelevent anologies of what they do or do not do in Holland.
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                                                                                                    Couple that with the fact that the US and Europe have VERY different cultures. The US was mainly colonized and developed by the people that did NOT want to live under the overwhelming rule and care of central governments. They were a totally different kind of person. I have found in living in Europe that the people there tend to welcome big governments that care for them and tell them what to do. In the US, there is a very different.....much more individual oriented....frame of reference.
                                                                                                    From these basic differences grow a completely different world view and personal preferences, culturally speaking.
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                                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 14194

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by NiteRain
                                                                                                      There are people robbing banks/art galleries and getting away with it , that reminds me did they ever catch those guys who stole the scream, and that other painting?
                                                                                                      http://noncriminal.com/madonna.html
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