Betty Dodgeson about the G-spot versus SexEducation.com's explanation.

"I am the voice for women who do not orgasm from vaginal, g-spot or female prostate gland stimulation alone. "
same url ...

roflmao
on this board - that might get you in doodoo ...

Men and women are equal in all aspects.

They will not orgasm unless their clitoris-glans is stimulated.
They can cause an "irritation responce" similar to orgasm by stimulating their "g-spots" (which is the right term contrary to your opinion as it is GENDER NEUTRAL )...

An orgasm is defined as the stimulation of the clitoris-glans until an involuntary responce occurs which assists in aiding both the male's sperm and females egg for the goal of fertilization (?).

But you are right - in that - we need to define these terms SCIENTIFICALLY in order for progress to be made.

FOR SHIT'S SAKE! WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE A DAY OFF?????

I never take a day off.
I enjoy my work.

It's fun being right.
It's EVEN FUNNER being corrected.

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sexeducation This person is on your Ignore List

And Betty ...
we need to fix those words ...

because it pisses of the 60 year old women like "fris"?
who for decades thought they were having orgasms - will defend what they said to their husbands - but never actually have.

You're a fucking idiot.


In 1981, The Hite Report revealed that 26% of the three thousand women who participated in the study experienced orgasm regularly during vaginal intercourse, when there was no accompanying manual stimulation of their clitoris.

http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/vag_org.htm

I know I gave you the quote.
The problem comes in the "scientific" wording of the survey.
And after ten years of looking for ANY evidence of vaginal orgasm - I gave you the best of the best quote.

The survey is flawed.

And the primary reason for that is - is that we have learned more about sex in the last 10 years then in the entire history of the world - AS WITH MOST THINGS ! This is the information age.

That survey using words only known then - was almost a quarter of a century ago .... [yawn] ...
find another link OTHER then what I have given you and come back to the blog table ...

Be careful though - I got banned once for quoting content DIRECTLY OFF OF THAT WEBSITE ...

I just posted a quote ... never said it was me ... and you guys flipped out THINKING it was me ... when it wasn't me at all.
; )

Have you ever thought of doing your own research. I mean having sex with a woman and asking her what feels good and what doesn't. Then working on lasting long enough to actually stimulate her. Vaginal orgasm is "hard" to get but far from a lie.

The difference is that this survey was conducted by people who actually know what the fuck they are doing. You know ... REAL SCIENTISTS. You have no degrees, no credentials, and the reasoning skills of a 4th grader.

He doesn't like women ..... he likes children.

Then why were YOU banned? What was the quote, BTW?

So we get some truth.
"hard to get" ...

and the discussion begins ...

so when do you "get it" ...teach me ..


PS:I can last as long as I wish to - spell "trigger on ejaculation" I have it - when you have the knowledge - you do to (retraining required for most).

I quoted a teenage girls questions about sex and the answer that THE DOCTORS of "the-clitoris.com" had posted regarding her questions.

Never wrote a word of it ...
let all the insults fly for about an hour ...
then I posted the URL ...

I think that was warning number one from Lensman ...
thats like a year ago or something ...

and in that post the members of this board TRASHED every sentance and word of that DOCTORS responce and I got warning number one ...

kewl ....

read for yourself ...
just search for "the-clitoris.com" using your GFY search function ...

This board and I have problems ...
roflmao ...

but there is one thing that Lensman DOES NOT do which is delete threads - EVER.

He is a defender in my mind - of freedom of speach.

Bow to the power of Adult.com.

HEY GONZO ...

you should read this !!!

Why are you so fucking OBSESSED with this topic? You are not a female. You have probably never had sex with a female. And it the unlikely event that you did have sex with a female, and she failed to have a vaginal orgasm, it was probably because you are a disgusting piece of shit who is incapabe of arousing the opposite sex.

Lensman is a busy man. If he paid more attention to you, believe me, you would be long gone.

A teenage girl. You probably can't see WHY that would have been inappropriate for this board, can you?

two smilies ... ???
your bot screwing up tonight?

NOPE - not at all.

THIS IS THE WORLD'S BUSIEST ADULT WEBMASTER BOARD.
Where the decision makers often come.

This is the room - I want to be in.

A room of free speech where threads ARE NEVER altered.

That is why you get banned so often.

Nope - this is why I am unbanned all the time.

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

Score. First and only person on my ignore.

Are you saying that because Lensman allows you to post that he automatically agrees with/supports your views?

two things,

1st: because you cant make a woman have an orgasm dont blame them and say it cant happen, because it does .. oh wait, that brings me to my second point

2nd: perhaps your research on orgasms should be focused on adults, thats where you truly are missing the boat

its all so clear now!!

fuck man, when was the last time you were with a woman who could buy her own drink at a bar without getting carded and asked to leave?? Im fucking 43 and have an amazing fiancee who does have vaginal orgasms - and when we are in a 3some so does the other girl.

So maybe rethink the age group your basing your facts on

I'd like to call in my 5 hours of silence now please.

DONE ...

cya good bye ...
thank you for the search link...

POOF

It's been said - little children can't have vaginal orgasms that I'm aware of. Were you to have sex with adults instead you sick piece of shit you wouldn't have that problem.

For what it's worth...

dirtychildmolester - This person is on your Ignore List.

I got the gist of it from the thread title and responses.

When you have the credentials and education of Sigmund Freud, come back and talk to us. He was the first one to say that the vaginal orgasm DOES exist.

Or when you're a woman and have a clitoris and a G-spot, then perhaps this is a subject on which you may have some knowledge.

This has been a debated subjected for several decades and just because this is a soap box for you doesn't mean the rest of us want your uneducated, hillbilly-esque views shoved down our throats.

You are totally un-educated as far as human sexuality goes. You've gotten your education through your SON and by reading textbooks. Oh, and let's not forget that you've read the internet, probably done a search or two on Google and read a few articles there...but who in the fuck CAN'T do that? I mean, puhhhlease, this is just another "campaign" of your's and this shit is old.

You have no credibility as far as human psychology, female anatomy or human sexuality goes. This is just another way for you to blabber your bullshit to us and blah, blah, blah...grow up and get a different hobby.

Oh, lookie down below. I can do a search on Google too and come up with articles SUPPORTING vaginal orgasm's. Find a new soapbox or buy a box of bullets....

http://www.coolnurse.com/orgasm_female.htm
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0469.html
http://www.sexinfo101.com/ic_femaleorgasms.shtml
http://www.mybodyvibes.com/guidance/...3_orgasms.html
http://www.themarriagebed.com/gspot.shtml
http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVartic...19307&pid=1134

I want to clarify something.

What does "vaginal orgasm is a lie" really mean?

Sexeducation's site says that a woman will not experience orgasm unless her clitoris is stimulated.

That is not too controversial a statement. I think most authorities would agree that is TRUE.

HOWEVER, some women can experience orgasm through vaginal intercourse with no manual or other intentional stimulation of the clitoris. The intercourse can indirectly stimulate the clitoris through movement of the labia, or the man's pubic area can stimulate the clitoris. Or take the example of my wife, who enjoys the sensation during doggy style sex when my balls slap against it.

If sexeducation is saying that no woman can cum through vaginal intercourse then he hasn't slept with many women.

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I think it's time to call a spade a spade.

I want to see SexEd's PERSONAL research on this. And I'm not talking about his own personal, sexual failures.He is going around and saying "vaginal orgasm is a lie!" so let's see the personal, clinical research he has done. For someone to be so passionate about a subject, surely they've done there own clinical research, with their own test subjects and above the board testing. Of course, this would all happen in a laboratory setting with scientific results...and not in the basement of some apartment.

I want to see your research paper. I am very interested in how you've come to the conclusion that vaginal orgasm is a lie. Forget about the papers that other's have written on the subject...let's personalize this a bit. What research have YOU done?

Now surely you've conducted your own clinical studies, correct? Surely you've set up a test group and a control group and conducted studies on women of all ages, (of course I mean of LEGAL age), of varying socioeconomic backgrounds, done a complete physical exam of each test subject, etc. etc.

What type of clinical research of YOU done on this subject? Publish your paper right here and right now. I have a medical background and I would love to read it. I am interested in hearing about your clinical research into the subject...I don't want to read about someone's finding's that anyone can find on Google.

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She orgasmed.

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That's exactly the point you can NOT find any direct evidence, clinical studies by anyone - that vaginal orgasm exists. However, most adults believe that it does.

Sigmund Freud was a freak!!!!
And you are right - HE WAS THE ONE - that invented the concept of "vaginal orgasm" - AND IS PLAINLY WRONG. Oh and he did that like 80 years ago based on the biological knowledge of the time. He is the one that started the myth of vaginal orgasm. And now I, and others are going to correct it.

This first link describes WHERE an orgasm occurs and not HOW an orgasm occurs.

A person will only orgasm when their clitoris-glans is stimulated, and when that occurs in the female she will feel the rythmic contractions in her vagina.

A common mistake made by people like yourself.

The first paragraph of your third link ...
http://www.sexinfo101.com/ic_femaleorgasms.shtml

As Dr.Mirkin would say ...
"The VAST majority of women do not orgasm from traditional intercourse."
http://www.DrMirkin.com



AND

Once again just making stuff up because of the confusion on the subject.

There is only one true orgasm and that occurs when a persons clitoris-glans is stimulated (gender irrelevant). A G-spot "orgasm" is more like an irritation responce of the sexual responce system and although pleasurable and similar to an orgasm - the VAST MAJORITY of people both male and female prefer a clitoris-glans REAL orgasm.

A "vaginal orgasm" is stimulation of only the vaginal walls resulting in an orgasm - and this simply does not occur. It was a concept invent by Sigmund Freud based on the biological knowledge decades old.

Your second url
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0469.html


Your quotes are proving my point - not yours.

Most adults believe that a male should from traditional intercourse give her a "vaginal orgasm" - stimulation of the vaginal walls by a penis - when in fact it does NOT occur.

from the URL
http://www.mybodyvibes.com/guidance/...3_orgasms.html

Its websites like this that continue to perpetuate the myth by tossing in the G-spot "orgasm" into the vaginal orgasm "definition".

However, I am telling you that most adults WITHOUT including the G-spot orgasm during intercourse believe that she should orgasm from only the stimulation of the vaginal walls and this is WRONG!

It's political posturing for years of telling women what they should be having instead of asking them what they are having.
Sexual inequality.

And I am going to mix it up - push your buttons - piss you off - be annoying as hell - call you out - call in the United Nations [lol] to get the message out that "Vaginal orgasm is a lie!"

Because it is the right thing to do - and once understood usually creates an epiphany in the person who finally gets it.

No person will orgasm unless their clitoris-glans is stimulated. The common G-spot "orgasm" is simply an irritation of the sexual responce system and although pleasurable and similar to an "orgasm" - it is not.

Vaginal orgasm is a lie!