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  • Decadawn
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 1286

    #1

    CCBill or iBill? What should I use?

    Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!
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  • Rochard
    Jägermeister Test Pilot
    • Dec 2001
    • 75760

    #2
    Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

    Choice is yours.
    Herschel Savage
    Brooklyn, NY

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    • tony299
      lurker
      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      Originally posted by RocHard
      Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

      Choice is yours.
      Thats not true at all , ibill rocks , they were the only ones during the Master card changes to do web boardcast explaining it and answering webmaster questions. Any problem I had they took care of quickly. They are very professional and thats the type of people I want watching over my money.

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      • Axzar
        Random Jackass
        • Feb 2003
        • 1837

        #4
        Why wouldn't you use both?

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        • OY
          Industry Pioneer
          • Oct 2002
          • 5401

          #5
          Use both, and then add a third to back the two up!

          PS. MPA3
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          • Decadawn
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 1286

            #6
            What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?

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            • OY
              Industry Pioneer
              • Oct 2002
              • 5401

              #7
              Originally posted by Decadawn
              What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?
              Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

              This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

              Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

              Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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              • Decadawn
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 1286

                #8
                Originally posted by Oystein
                Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

                This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

                Thanks for the infos ;)

                Can't stop learning..!

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                • shermo

                  #9
                  Listen to Oystein. Cascade those bitches and see your sales increase. If it's a 1 or the other thing, go with CCBill. I'm a fan of almost real time stats and their support is awesome.

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                  • imageman
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1938

                    #10
                    Use CCbill and back up with Epoch dont touch Ibill




                    .

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                    • xxxoutsourcing
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3888

                      #11
                      Yea - use both, we use ccbill as main processor and ibill or sometimes verotel as back up.
                      Works out ok for us.

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                      • NaughtyAlysha
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 1843

                        #12
                        CCBill, no comparison.


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                        • KGucci
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 653

                          #13
                          Decadawn ~ Check out this thread and the offer that is running thru the end of Sept.


                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=356561


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                          • Tipsy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 6989

                            #14
                            It's been said - use 2. Crazy not to. Apart from the scrubbing which as oystein says will lose you at least 20% (often a lot more) if you only use one, you then also have a backup in case one goes down (or godforbid even goes under - stranger things have happened).

                            I voted though and will only say that had you asked me 12 months+ ago my vote would have ben completely different.
                            Ignorance is never bliss.

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                            • andrej_NDC
                              Registered User
                              • May 2004
                              • 7760

                              #15
                              CCBILL - EPOCH/PAYCOM
                              dont touch ibill

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                              • sybianguru
                                Registered User
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 53

                                #16
                                I would use iBill as a primary and CCBill as a back-up. Many of the people who talk negatively about iBill haven't had experience with them recently.
                                Better approvals, better reporting, better service!!
                                as funky as I wanna be

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                                • test44
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 38

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Decadawn
                                  Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!
                                  Decadawn,

                                  As some of the other guys recommended, go with both. ccbill is a good company and so is iBill. Don't take my word for it though.

                                  Check out these threads on iBill's conversions compared to other billers:

                                  "i bill rocks! ibill/paycom/ccbill is the best order. In nats i use i bill 85% of the time primary. Epoch picks up alot of my sales though. ccbill is good too, but hands down, you will do the most tranactions with i bill"

                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=346024&s=

                                  ---

                                  "And, this whole time, no matter what order I tried to send signups to these processors, they were always made aware of the multiple billing solutions for my site. And it didn't really matter which company I was favoring at all, HANDS DOWN, NO QUESTION - I GOT MORE SIGNUPS WITH IBILL PERIOD. "

                                  ----
                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=342789

                                  Adam
                                  [email protected]

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                                  • Mr. Mike
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 913

                                    #18
                                    Play your cards right and use both, CCBILL as primary.
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                                    • Miguel
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 2978

                                      #19
                                      I think that it depends on what region you work with. Ibill/CCBill/Epoch have different acceptance of Visa and Master Card for different regions (US, Europe, Asia). So try all of them and decide which will be primary and which to use for back up.

                                      We use Ibill, going to add Epoch as back up.
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                                      • SeanE
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2001
                                        • 357

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Decadawn
                                        Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!
                                        Feel free to contact me with any specific questions you may have about CCBill... I will be happy to walk you through our system.

                                        Contact info listed below..

                                        p.s. Thanks guys for the positive comments

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                                        • gothoes
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 131

                                          #21
                                          has anybody heard of a company out of canada called nexus?
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                                          • Ty W
                                            Registered User
                                            • Sep 2004
                                            • 47

                                            #22
                                            Hey Decadawn,

                                            You should also consider eCommerceGlobal.com as a backup.

                                            * Fast Setup and Low Rates
                                            * Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers
                                            * Real-Time Reports on Transactions
                                            * Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit
                                            * One-Time & Recurring Transactions
                                            * Professional front and back-end Interface
                                            * Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports
                                            * Free technical support
                                            * Affiliate Tracking Program
                                            * Customized Join Pages
                                            * Customized Emails
                                            * Cascade Billing
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                                            * Discreet Billing Descriptor
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                                            TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED:
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                                            Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance,

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                                            • zazzouche
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 113

                                              #23
                                              I would tell you to go with both ibil and ccbill , I work with both and yes all companies pass though hard times but they both have a very solid team. Try them and then you can decide which company will be your primary and which one your secondary. You can always alternate just check out their reporting system and their customer support.

                                              Good Luck!
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                                              • Pornkings
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 5334

                                                #24
                                                It depends on many things try them both out or cascade.

                                                Figure out what time of the month they scrub harder so you know which one to use as your primary processor.

                                                Your options are pretty limited so it shouldn?t be difficult

                                                Our Primary is Paycom secondary CCbill as of right now



                                                Goodluck
                                                Pornkings.com

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                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32492

                                                  #25
                                                  You will do the most transactions with I Bill hands down. The rebills are better too. They scrub the least and thats fact.
                                                  Chargebacks and refunds are a bit higher but definatley not an issue. In any case you need at least 2 billers anyway. But I use I bill primary 95% of the time

                                                  My I Bill rep is Kristi, she is awesome. I find that i bill support is the best and I can contact her whenever i need something done and either she takes care of it or gets someone who can take care of it on the phone with me within minutes. Hit her up. 234382798
                                                  Cheers
                                                  Duke

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                                                  • BigWebRev
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 1631

                                                    #26
                                                    Paycom works well.

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                                                    • Lace
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 16116

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BigWebRev
                                                      Paycom works well.
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                                                      • MikeVega
                                                        **Porntrepreneur**
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 12788

                                                        #28
                                                        I use both...and CCBill is just Easier ....i like it better...


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                                                        • wimpy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 607

                                                          #29
                                                          Don't go with Epoch unless you read their holdback clause really really carefully. They hold more than anyone else and keep it until 3 years after your last transaction. They might as well just say "we keep your money until you're long dead."
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                                                          • pornguy
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 62910

                                                            #30
                                                            Years ago, we tired to set up accounts with Ibill. After a week of chasing them, we called ccbill. 24 hours later we were up an running.

                                                            About a year later, tired Ibill as a back up. one week later of chasing them, we gave up and used someone else.

                                                            But that is just one case. A lot of people say that they are very good.

                                                            Just never worked for me.
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                                                            • Bigjohn
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 1118

                                                              #31
                                                              I've been using CCBill for years... never a problem getting a hold of them and always a paycheck on time

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                                                              • kater
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                • 7

                                                                #32
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                                                                • james_clickmemedia
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 2204

                                                                  #33
                                                                  CCbill over Ibill.. Until Ibill proves themselves again.
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