remove the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker or you're fired !!!

50 assholes

You have no right to fire somebody because you disagree with their political choice, or their car decorations.

If the woman was not doing her job that is one thing, but for the reasons listed is not right.

This has fucking nothing to do with running his company the way he wants to and your fooling yourself if you truely believe this has anything to do with running his company.

Who his employees vote for has absolutly nothing to do with the inside operations of this company.

This woman has a right to feed her children, pay her bills, and provide her family with shelter regardless of who she votes for and whatever sticker she decides to put on her car.

Good for her for standing up for her rights and fuck anybody that tries to take them away from her.

haha youre wrong... you... you... douchebag...

we'll never know if he gave her that option...

i do wonder tho, if i showed up and parked a car with a kerry sticker on his lot as a customer wanting to buy insulation, if he'd tell me i could only buy from him if i remove that sticker... i bet not.

Why not, if it is MY company? I own my house, and I make the rules. It should be the same for any building I own.

When I say "running his company", I mean hiring, firing, and any other decision made.

Of couse she does. Nobody said she couldn't work, he just said she couldn't work FOR HIM!!

I think we both agree he is a dickhead. As for the customer part, I think we ALL know the answer to that.

E X A C T L Y

he took away her source of income. you think jobs grow on trees?

Kerry hires Alabama woman fired after displaying Kerry bumper sticker

"DETROIT A woman fired for displaying a John Kerry sticker now has a job with the White House hopeful's campaign."

link

EVERY employer who fires someone takes away their source of income. Should firing someone be illegal now?

for a political opinion, yes

So, where do we draw the line? Only for politcal opinions? What if I don't like blondes, and don't want to hire them in my store? Why should the govt. be allowed to make me?

BTW, she wasn't fired for her opinion. She was fired for DISPLAYING that opinion on this guys property. Same as if John Kerry himself put a sign in that guys yard. It is HIS property, and he didn't want any type of Kerry promotional items on it.

I understand exactly what your trying to say. I completly disagree.

There are laws governing the way people can be hired and fired and you cannot simply fire someone for any reason you like. There must be a compentency or legal issue involved.

And lets get to the underlying issue here. This country was founded in large part due to the freedom of experssion our forefathers so badley wanted and it has been our battle cry ever since. Our freedom of experssion (what allows us to be porn webmasters) is the most sacred value we have, that is why it is the FIRST ammendment.

You can disagree with your employee all you want, but you canot deny them the right to freely express themselves. Especially when it is a sticker on a car. This does not affect business at all, it is not something that hurts somebody else and is certaintly not in any ones way.

One could argue easily the car is HER property, so he had no right to tell her a thing about her car. If it is parked on HIS property it is because as an employeer it is his responsibilioty to provide adequate parking for his employees.

If she had hung a sign outside her cubicle or office he would be well within his right to ask her to remove it as long as it pertains to ALL political ads or signs. That can be seen as a distraction in the workplace as the workplace is not a place to sway voters, but to get work done.

But HER car is something completly different.

And we could also get into a good ethical discussion about the responsibility employeers have to their employees. You cannot take food off the table just because you disagree with their political choice.

If this guy is such a great patriot American (and I assume he thinks he is because all Republicans do) then he should fundamentally respect her freedom of expression and agree to disagree because it is our right are American's to have any opinion we see fit and to be able to express it. Express it, so long as it does not cause harm to another person or invade ones space. I think you would have serious problems trying to show how a window sticker could cause harm or interfeer with someones right to ignore it.

where do we draw the line? how about at religion? i don't like self-righteous christians and as long as i keep my number of employees under 15, i don't have to hire one.

you see a pattern yet?

Sounds good to me. But, when you get more than 15 emplyees, and still want the right to hire who you want....I will be right here defending your right to do that.

Dead13 - I agree he should let her have any bumper sticker she wants. I agree he was a total dickhead for firing her. I agree it is shameful that she would lose her job for something so petty. I still support his right to do as he pleases with his business.

okay. you have fun with that.

A vehicle is private property and that should be the end of the arguement. If she was attaching stickers to someone elses property, that would be different. But her car is not his property, it's hers.

I also find the number of americans now willing to abandon the right we all should have to express ourselves, in favor of not having to see/hear something they don't like, to be truely frightening.

I just want to have big-tiited women working for me.

All the flat-chested will be fired next week. I don't think they will sue me for discrimination... After all, I am not Hooters....

(/sarcasm)

I don't think anyone said it was "fair." Life isn't fair

she could not endorse Kerry, by putting it on her car, in his parking lot. try reading between the lines

he had no obligation to employ her, she could have removed the bumper sticker if it was an issue, or taken the bus.

I guess you guys have never heard of a right to work state. They have no unions, and what the business owner says goes

dear, that was told to us in the beginning of the thread, the first post:

Last Thursday she was fired from her job at an Alabama insulation company for refusing to remove a John Kerry sticker from her car's windshield, and left with an uncertain future.

A few days -- and a couple of local newspaper articles later -- Gobbell found herself getting a job offer from Kerry himself.

When Gobbell, 41, returned to her Moulton, Ala., home early this week after a discouraging meeting with her former employer, she picked up the phone to hear Kerry's voice.

The Democratic presidential candidate introduced himself, said Gobbell, and told her he regretted what had happened to her. "He said he was proud of me for standing up for what I believed in," she said.

Near the end of their short conversation, Gobbell said Kerry told her, "You let him know you work for John Kerry. You're hired."

not quite. texas is a right to work state and lookie at all these:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/la.toc.htm

for the last time, right to work state

sorry. i was skimming, okay?

LOL, that little kid on the right looks like he's ready to sock somebody.

yes, Federal law supercedes state law, however, there is no Federal law that says you can't tell someone what kind of bumperstickers they can put on cars parked on your property.

If he fired her because she was a chick, black, Catholic or handicapped she would have an leg to stand on . . . unless her handicap was that she had no legs

looks to me like the state of alabama says, if you feel you've been discriminated against by an employer, you can go to the fed:

http://www.alalabor.state.al.us/job_...ation_laws.htm

interestingly, they allow joining unions there:

Does Alabama have any Right to Work Laws?

Yes Alabama workers may choose to join a union or decline to do so. Refer to ?25-7-30. Right to Work Law?

http://www.alalabor.state.al.us/FAQ.htm

yes, but your implication was that, in right to work states an employer can fire anyone for any reason at all...don't embellish, it's not cricket

okay, they have abolished slavery in most states

i'm still buzzing on those fucking diet pills.

I know, that is why I am being easy on you

riiiight

hey, the guy is a jerk, but he can do as he wishes, and he did, and as a result she got her 15 minutes of fame, and even though she really has a dead end job now, it is probably be for the best, and she will be glad it happened.

she probably hated the job anyway, and now has an excuse to move out of AL

That's pretty ridiculous to me. I'm a republican but that's fuckin crossing the line; no, wait. That's jumping in a ferrari and driving past the line.


Vote Bush!

wow. that's a glass-is-half-full kind of sentiment. are you on diet pills too?