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Originally Posted by spunkmaster
"I think your being a bit misled.. but so is everyone.. global warming is a reality"
Yes it is and I've never denied this fact !
What I dispute is the fact that it is caused by man or the USA.
Global warming has happened many thimes over the last several thousands of years before there was any pollution.
During the 1970's the world was a shit hole as far as pollution and CO2 emmissions
go and we had global cooling !
The people pushing the man made global warming crap have an agenda and it's
mostly anti US or anti Globalization.
Then reason we've had periods of global warming is because the earth wobbles and
it's rotation around the sun isn't perfect.
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The opinion that we are killing the planet is not just some half cocked theory.
Like i said i wasn't trusting just anyone

just the worlds smartest people on the subject.. If you can't trust the world's leading authorities on the subject who can you trust ? Oil propoganda ? i dont think so. You cant simply blame every problem that exists on "anti-americans"
Its not an american problem , its a world problem. The americans are the least of the problem.
The earth might wobble , but that doesnt make the giant smog cloud over l.a. or mexico city any smaller or any less man made.
If your just talking about "gut feeling" , then my gut feeling is much the same as yours , i think before man came along there was already global pollution on a grand scale , and everything were judging is so small it can't make a difference on a large scale.
So to me its perfectly reasonable to assume that the earth works on a bigger time scale than we assume and any trends in weather are completely useless merely because of the inability to track them properly over long periods of time.
BUT i trust the worlds top scientists, more than i trust my gut feeling

and i trust the simple plain fact if you have ever been to l.a. or mexico city , you know its dirty as all fuck in the air, and it can't be good. and it MUST add up.