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  • 2XY
    Registered User
    • Jun 2004
    • 98

    #51
    Originally posted by [Brian]
    I don't care who you work for man. I am VERY defensive about my program, because it kicks ass. If I see someone saying they can't sell a FastSize I want to know WHY .. that's all.

    Seeing you say "you're better off selling pills" is demoralizing. Suggesting you don't need any help selling a program that is the first one of it's nature is a bit callous too .. are you too good to need any help?

    Brian....I don't wanna keep jumping in to threads about your company but lately...that's all that's on here is talk of FastSize.

    Take my advice..don't get overly defensive. There is always going to be someone who won't like your program, you, or anyone of your staff...and will jump in the thread to voice their opinion about how the program suck and try to sway your affiliates elsewhere. You should just make light of the situation and just accept their criticism light heartedly. Most people on here have already had the opportunity of working with you and your program and they speak highly of you....so care cares about the guys that complain. Just ignore them....stand your ground...and avoid any negativity.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

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    • pxxx
      First African GFY Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 12114

      #52
      Originally posted by BradM
      Jace: Whoopdee doo. Oh dear god the END of the world has come.

      I've talked to affiliates on GFY before and said things to the effect of: "Dude you sent us 2 clicks. Why are you bitching. Let's crank it up."

      Is that SO BAD? If it is, you're welcome to send your traffic to oainternet. They need it more than we do.

      For fuck sakes people, if you're that sensitive- you need to get out more and stop typing so much. Stop post whoring and grab a falafell. Christ. I am sick of seeing board whores jumping on a bandwagon.

      For those of you making good money with us, I thank you for your business. You know that the guys with 20, and 50 hits with no sales don't matter. I sure am not taking it to heart.
      And Matt, no bridges are burned... Jason owes me a favor so if I really want to get some traffic I am sure I could pull that favor.
      Very well put and stamped. I love it when somebody brings up a minor thing, and all the sig whores and new people trying to impress the "old" fellas hop right on it, and just flame away on the board.

      Its ok people, you don't have to help someone flame away on another person to get some exposure in this ridiculously full of surfers board.


      Oh yeah, you are absolutely welcome to flame away.

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      • 2XY
        Registered User
        • Jun 2004
        • 98

        #53
        Originally posted by [Brian]
        Well he did say he purposely created a second account devoid of any contact info.

        I apologize for posting his stats here and appearing unprofessional.
        For all the people who overlooked this post from Brian... here's a bump.

        Mistakes happen..just don't let it happen again and you'll be fine.

        No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

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        • BradM
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 3397

          #54
          Thanks Greg. remember when everyone flamed YOU for being a massive sigwhore ? LOL... some people. All it takes is ONE person with strength to say "you suck" and all of the followers follow suit.

          I'm of the mind that sometimes there are more important things to think about. That goes for both sides of arguments sometimes. Heh.

          Peace guys.

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          • [Brian]
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2001
            • 1523

            #55
            Originally posted by 2XY
            For all the people who overlooked this post from Brian... here's a bump.

            Mistakes happen..just don't let it happen again and you'll be fine.


            Thanks again man, you're like the brother I never had.

            HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program
            ICQ: 391113064

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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393

              #56
              Here are my stats, I only send a small amount of traffic.

              First I hunted back to my last sale, which was in April:

              Apr 1 2004 to current
              1 sale
              1:3138

              Now all time:
              3 sales
              1:1535

              What am I doing wrong? That traffic comes from hosted gals and a text link.

              edit: if it helps there were only 304 join page hits. I don't know if that sort of raw:join ratio is typical.
              Last edited by rowan; 09-13-2004, 07:29 PM.

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              • pxxx
                First African GFY Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 12114

                #57
                Originally posted by BradM
                Thanks Greg. remember when everyone flamed YOU for being a massive sigwhore ? LOL... some people. All it takes is ONE person with strength to say "you suck" and all of the followers follow suit.

                I'm of the mind that sometimes there are more important things to think about. That goes for both sides of arguments sometimes. Heh.

                Peace guys.
                Hehe, Yeah I remember the days, and the funny part is that most of those idiots and fucktards posted here as well and once again they were in the "bahhhh set". Doesn't matter what anyone says, there is only oneway to end this...



                FASTSIZE KICKS ASS, PROMOTE IT AND DO IT RIGHT!!!!

                If you need help, contact Brad or Brian, they are available 24 hours for me.

                Lets stop the hating, bandwaggoning, bahhhhing, and just do what the fuck about 5% of you that posted came here to do. MAKE MONEY!!!!!!


                FASTSIZE ALL THE WAY!!!!


                OH yeah, more than welcomed to flame.

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                • BradM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 3397

                  #58
                  Originally posted by rowan
                  What am I doing wrong? That traffic comes from hosted gals and a text link.

                  edit: if it helps there were only 304 join page hits. I don't know if that sort of raw:join ratio is typical.
                  We see an average of 20-25% to join page.
                  On TGP traffic you're going to get much different results than SE guys. Your traffic is expecting everything to be free, and when they see the price tag, they may get a bit excited.

                  All I can suggest is that we look at your site, and figure out what we can do to help conversions. hange some of the text, maybe add a price right on the text link. There's a hundred things we can do. If you want to give it a shot again, myself or Brian can give you a hand.

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                  • 2XY
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 98

                    #59
                    Originally posted by [Brian]
                    Thanks again man, you're like the brother I never had.
                    No sweat, man. I'm sure you'll return the favor when I need it.

                    I'd ask for a free sample of what you sell but my wife can tell ya that I don't need it.
                    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

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                    • Tempest
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2004
                      • 10217

                      #60
                      Didn't read all the posts.. it ends up just being blah blah blah blah...

                      I put up a banner the other day, got a sale after about 80 raw hits, nothing since and am at about 430 raws. I added some text and a few more ads on the site. That's nothing. At 75 a payout on the low end, it could go to 1:1000 - 1:4000 and still make more money them a lot of other sponsor sites. This is off some crappy TGP traffic that doesn't have enough of a SE base... For me it's a "test". If I make another sale or two I'll roll it out onto more sites.

                      FastSize - It always pisses me off when sponsors say "contact me" to talk about selling your product. PUT IT IN YOUR AFFILIATE SITE!!!! Why isn't there a shit load of text links in there that have been proven to work? Some "sample" adword ads etc. etc. etc. etc. A LOT of affiliates signup and will never, ever contact you. You guys seem to have the experience in selling it, what works and what doesn't. Put the info in your affiliate area so we can all benifit from it.. Sheesh!!

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                      • BradM
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 3397

                        #61
                        Tempest... the reason why? More ways for competition to steal them. It's harder if they are buried on tgps
                        Of course eventually they can get to it, but posting our best tactics doesn't make sense.

                        Besides, we don't always know everything. It sometimes takes trial and error to help a site convert. Which is why we always try to talk in private, on the phone to help on a more personal level.

                        Anywhoo let's take a look at your site. TGP is stubborn but there are ways to crack it.

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                        • sake
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 2648

                          #62
                          bradm, hit me up on icq 49734118

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                          • TonyL
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 900

                            #63
                            Don't know about you guys buy I convert at 1:33 with FastSize.

                            But then again, I know what im doing.

                            -Tony

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                            • Tempest
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2004
                              • 10217

                              #64
                              Originally posted by BradM
                              Tempest... the reason why? More ways for competition to steal them.
                              I knew you'd say that. But here's the thing. You give me all your insite.. and then maybe I eventaully promote the competitor and use the info you told me. In the end your competitor gets the benifit of the info anyway.

                              If you put some info on the site that was at least "good" at selling (not your best), then you're on a level playing field and your affiliates can at least promote your product better.

                              But what do I know, I don't have a program, I just do promotion/marketing for programs. Or at least try to.

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                              • TheMob?
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8584

                                #65
                                Originally posted by brand0n
                                if that was the fact most of us would have cocks to the floor
                                so you don't?

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                                • sexeducation
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 7315

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                  stretching does not increase size, masturbation does... masturbate more

                                  ps: I have yet to make a sale with them, better off selling pills (no offense to the fastsize guys)
                                  I believe FastSize.com works although I have not seen any evidence. I believe an applied force or lack of will affect most body parts.

                                  Penis pills are a rip off!

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                                  • BradM
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2003
                                    • 3397

                                    #67
                                    It's true eventually we all share info somehow. I have no further rebuttles.

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                                    • sexeducation
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 7315

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                      It's true eventually we all share info somehow. I have no further rebuttles.
                                      It's a simple question ...
                                      yes or no ...
                                      does it work?

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                                      • the_wizz
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2003
                                        • 1633

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by TonyL
                                        Don't know about you guys buy I convert at 1:33 with FastSize.

                                        But then again, I know what im doing.

                                        -Tony
                                        Shit. I wish I knew what you're doing.

                                        I'm at 1:8751 (mostly, tgp and error traffic I believe.... though it'd be nice if there were a way to see exactly what traffic I'm sending...)
                                        Promote the Best

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                                        • [Brian]
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 1523

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by the_wizz
                                          Shit. I wish I knew what you're doing.

                                          I'm at 1:8751 (mostly, tgp and error traffic I believe.... though it'd be nice if there were a way to see exactly what traffic I'm sending...)
                                          Looks like mostly 404 traffic from TGP galleries. Must be tough to sell anything on those hits. Why not put a banner or text link on the bottom of the galleries themselves? Even that I would think would have a better chance of generating sales.

                                          HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program
                                          ICQ: 391113064

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                                          • the_wizz
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 1633

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by [Brian]
                                            Looks like mostly 404 traffic from TGP galleries. Must be tough to sell anything on those hits. Why not put a banner or text link on the bottom of the galleries themselves? Even that I would think would have a better chance of generating sales.
                                            I have banners on three tgps.
                                            Promote the Best

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                                            • Theo
                                              HAL 9000
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 34515

                                              #72
                                              im 1:4400 on foreign exit ,i think it's pretty good

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                                              • Jace
                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 35562

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by BradM
                                                You know that the guys with 20, and 50 hits with no sales don't matter.
                                                glad to know how you feel...and I am pulling links now

                                                and sad part is, you have no idea what my account is, or what my id is....but that is ok, cause some peoples business doesn't matter to you...so I will take my sales elsewhere

                                                and oh yeah, i am a sig whore now? rofl...nice try

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                                                • Jace
                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 35562

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by pxxx
                                                  Very well put and stamped. I love it when somebody brings up a minor thing, and all the sig whores and new people trying to impress the "old" fellas hop right on it, and just flame away on the board.
                                                  nice, and you don't even know me or what I do....who is the sig whore and who is that person trying to impress the "old fellas"?

                                                  i ain't tryin to impress anyone here....funny thing is when juicy mentions lensman in a thread everyone comes running to post and has something funny or witty to say to him.....but when I get mad cause an sponsor posted an affiliate id and stats without their permission I get flamed

                                                  god fucking damn the priorities of the people and businesses on this baord are FUCKED...and the sad part is, everyone knows it and accepts it

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                                                  • TonyL
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 900

                                                    #75
                                                    This thread needs some stats pics. Enjoy





                                                    -Tony

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                                                    • [Brian]
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 1523

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                      nice, and you don't even know me or what I do....who is the sig whore and who is that person trying to impress the "old fellas"?

                                                      i ain't tryin to impress anyone here....funny thing is when juicy mentions lensman in a thread everyone comes running to post and has something funny or witty to say to him.....but when I get mad cause an sponsor posted an affiliate id and stats without their permission I get flamed

                                                      god fucking damn the priorities of the people and businesses on this baord are FUCKED...and the sad part is, everyone knows it and accepts it

                                                      You okay bro?

                                                      I apologized for posting the man's hit count, didn't realize that would be a big deal, given the thread title.

                                                      Regardless of what is said on the board, I don't like to burn bridges unnecessarily. Hit me up if you care to chat about it. If not, sorry if you feel slighted by the comments from myself or anyone else.

                                                      Regarding your other post: If we DID know your account we would probably monitor it and would have a 1-on-1 relationship with you and have avoided this ordeal.

                                                      HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program
                                                      ICQ: 391113064

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                                                      • Steen2
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 7662

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by TonyL
                                                        This thread needs some stats pics. Enjoy





                                                        -Tony
                                                        I propose we trade account IDs.
                                                        ICQ: 2262.73945

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827

                                                          #78


                                                          Earn $75-$150 per sign-up with Fast Size
                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                          • the_wizz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                            • 1633

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by TonyL
                                                            This thread needs some stats pics. Enjoy





                                                            -Tony
                                                            Seriously.

                                                            Teach me.
                                                            Promote the Best

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                                                            • [Brian]
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                              • 1523

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc


                                                              Earn $75-$150 per sign-up with Fast Size

                                                              Whattaya know, evilgeniuscash is the 666th in our system ... it just makes sense.

                                                              HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program
                                                              ICQ: 391113064

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                                                              • Jace
                                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 35562

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by [Brian]
                                                                You okay bro?

                                                                I apologized for posting the man's hit count, didn't realize that would be a big deal, given the thread title.

                                                                Regardless of what is said on the board, I don't like to burn bridges unnecessarily. Hit me up if you care to chat about it. If not, sorry if you feel slighted by the comments from myself or anyone else.

                                                                Regarding your other post: If we DID know your account we would probably monitor it and would have a 1-on-1 relationship with you and have avoided this ordeal.
                                                                cool, i must have missed that post, sorry....just repsonded to what I saw replied to me

                                                                as for my account, don't sweat it...i do my own thing and don't like much contact....no biggie, no links pulled....got sidetracked with music writing anyway

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                                                                • TonyL
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 900

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by the_wizz
                                                                  Seriously.

                                                                  Teach me.
                                                                  Heres a tip: Pre-qualify your traffic. Don't just send traffic to the sponsor. Sell them the product in there minds before they even hit the sponsors site. If done right the path to purchase will be index -> order, they won't even surf/look at the sponsors tour.

                                                                  -Tony

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                                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 40377

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                    Why do sponsors publicly disclose their partner's private information!?
                                                                    I also always wonder about it.
                                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 40377

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                      I also always wonder about it.
                                                                      ok and now I will be probably called a sig whore but I actually read the whole thread by now.

                                                                      BTW - and as always there're people who convert at 1:2000 too.
                                                                      I doubt there's a single program who can claim they converts always at 1:100
                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                      • the_wizz
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 1633

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by TonyL
                                                                        Heres a tip: Pre-qualify your traffic. Don't just send traffic to the sponsor. Sell them the product in there minds before they even hit the sponsors site. If done right the path to purchase will be index -> order, they won't even surf/look at the sponsors tour.

                                                                        -Tony
                                                                        Thanks!!
                                                                        Promote the Best

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                                                                        • Tipsy
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 6989

                                                                          #86
                                                                          People worry too much about ratios anyway. They forget it's all about the bottom line (not talking so much about the thread topic but rather some of the posts in it).

                                                                          If you're fairly loose in your text links traffic may convert at 1-1200, if you pre-qualify by using stuff such as pricing etc before they get to the site traffic my convert at 1-200 but....which is making you more cash? Just because the ratios are better you'll also be getting less clicks and it could well be that the one with the ratio 6x worse gets 7x more traffic because the link is less qualified. So the crap ratio is actually making you more money. Of course it could also be the other way around but then only you have the ability to check and see.

                                                                          Obviously crap figures just pulled from the air but it's the principle. For those that worry about ratios (especially other peoples) stop. Work on getting your sales higher - that's NOT always the same thing as getting a better conversion ratio.
                                                                          Last edited by Tipsy; 09-14-2004, 02:50 AM.
                                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                          • alexg
                                                                            IL4L.com
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 11287

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by calmlikeabomb
                                                                            I would of almost made 3 sale by then : )
                                                                            what kind of traffic are you sending?

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                                                                            • alexg
                                                                              IL4L.com
                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                              • 11287

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by TonyL
                                                                              Heres a tip: Pre-qualify your traffic. Don't just send traffic to the sponsor. Sell them the product in there minds before they even hit the sponsors site. If done right the path to purchase will be index -> order, they won't even surf/look at the sponsors tour.

                                                                              -Tony
                                                                              Tony, what kind of traffic are you sending?

                                                                              If you run penis enlargement sites hit me up, maybe we could trade links

                                                                              162136565

                                                                              Find fuck buddies in your area!

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                                                                              • HairToStay
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 1521

                                                                                #89
                                                                                My traffic absolutely can not convert penis pills, so I'll try this Fast Size thing and see what happens.
                                                                                Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!

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                                                                                • Project-Shadow
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 7340

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Account Raw Unique JPH Sales Ratio
                                                                                  ---- 921 755 54 0 0:755

                                                                                  All PPC traffic.

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                                                                                  • Dusen
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 2251

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    I don't understand people comparing ratios.

                                                                                    What you need to know is what you earn per-unique sent to a sponsor.

                                                                                    Then calculate how much it costs you to send that click, and subtract it.

                                                                                    If you have a positive number, you're doing something right. It doesn't matter if Jimmy HugeCock on GFY gets 1:4 or 1:75000.
                                                                                    Penis Pill Sponsor List and Reviews:
                                                                                    http://www.pillsponsors.com

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                                                                                    • mardigras
                                                                                      Bon temps!
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 14194

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by sexeducation
                                                                                      I believe FastSize.com works although I have not seen any evidence.
                                                                                      You could be president
                                                                                      .

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                                                                                      • Fonz
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 486

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        I got my first sale after 103 hits. Not too bad if you ask me
                                                                                        hardlinks for sale - ICQ 24298240 - links*at*smilinpussy.com

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                                                                                        • calmlikeabomb
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 1323

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by alexg
                                                                                          what kind of traffic are you sending?
                                                                                          Only SE traffic.
                                                                                          subarus.

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                                                                                          • Nicky
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 30071

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            I signedup to try fastsize yesterday......but im having login problems, plz anyone from fastsize contact me on ICQ: 62777655

                                                                                            Ive already got BradM added but he is not online now.

                                                                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                            • [Brian]
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                              • 1523

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                                              I signedup to try fastsize yesterday......but im having login problems, plz anyone from fastsize contact me on ICQ: 62777655

                                                                                              Ive already got BradM added but he is not online now.

                                                                                              Msging you now.

                                                                                              HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program
                                                                                              ICQ: 391113064

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                                                                                              • Manowar
                                                                                                jellyfish  
                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 71528

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by calmlikeabomb
                                                                                                I would of almost made 3 sale by then : )
                                                                                                that would be a sweet ass ratio

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                                                                                                • BradM
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                  • 3397

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                                                                                                  Account Raw Unique JPH Sales Ratio
                                                                                                  ---- 921 755 54 0 0:755

                                                                                                  All PPC traffic.
                                                                                                  Hey dude... can you please email me or something? We need to take a look at this. My own traffic converted 1:66 on SE PPC traffic.

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                                                                                                  • JSA Matt
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 5464

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    And Matt, no bridges are burned... Jason owes me a favor so if I really want to get some traffic I am sure I could pull that favor.
                                                                                                    You don't know Jason very well

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