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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

    As stated.. whats up with this ?
    Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

    Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?

    James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?

    Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?

    I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
  • The Truth Hurts
    Zph7YXfjMhg
    • Nov 2002
    • 15793

    #2
    don't forget your tinfoil hat.


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    • boobmaster
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2003
      • 6185

      #3
      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
      don't forget your tinfoil hat.


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      • Brujah
        Beer Money Baron
        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #4
        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
        don't forget your tinfoil hat.
        Obviously, you don't understand what a question is. It ends with one of these --> ?

        Now that we have established that, do you have any information at all about anything I just posted ? It's very simple and I used short questions and sentences on purpose for your small mind to understand better. Which of the statements or questions, is incorrect ? Do you know or do you just spew rehearsed bullshit ?

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        • bluff
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2004
          • 6253

          #5
          I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

          Moore's an idiot.

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          • The Truth Hurts
            Zph7YXfjMhg
            • Nov 2002
            • 15793

            #6
            ok...


            Originally posted by Brujah
            As stated.. whats up with this ?
            Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis
            A: You're a porn webmaster, poking your nose around in these places isn't in your best interest.

            Originally posted by Brujah
            Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?
            A: Yes.

            Originally posted by Brujah
            James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?
            A: Who was it that doesn't understand what a question is again?

            Originally posted by Brujah
            Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?
            A: Is there a question here?

            Originally posted by Brujah
            I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
            A: You're the target audience for F911. Enjoy.

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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #7
              Thanks TTH for confirming that my questions could all be answered with a "Yes." I wasn't sure on all points before.

              Vote Bush!

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              • KRL
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
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                • stev0
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 6801

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bluff
                  I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

                  Moore's an idiot.
                  Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.

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                  • bluff
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6253

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stev0
                    Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.
                    I know

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                    • bluff
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stev0
                      Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.
                      the film is almost all bias and so are his other projects.

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                      • polish_aristocrat
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 40377

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bluff
                        I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

                        Moore's an idiot.
                        so do you support Bush?
                        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                        • Giorgio_Xo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 4263

                          #13
                          Every time a Bradley Fighting Vehicle is destroyed the Bush family and the Saudi royal family profits. They want Americans to be attacked and killed.
                          Make Levees, Not War

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                          • neewwman
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1737

                            #14
                            All your questions are answered in "Dude, Where's my Country" by -- yes -- Michael Moore.

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                            • Tom_PMs
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2049

                              #15
                              This is classic.

                              Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).

                              Q: Where was Bush in 1972?

                              A: Typewriters don't exist! I challenge you to a duel!

                              Simply classic!

                              You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                              • Phoenix
                                BACON BACON BACON
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 35475

                                #16
                                Blinding ignorance does mislead us.
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                                • 69pornlinks
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 5560

                                  #17
                                  http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067906/

                                  http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

                                  http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle3995.htm

                                  http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html
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                                  • The Truth Hurts
                                    Zph7YXfjMhg
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 15793

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tom_PM

                                    Q: Where was Bush in 1972?
                                    The correct answer is:

                                    A: Who gives a fuck?

                                    and the same answer applies to John Kerrys military service.

                                    Nobody in the real world gives a fuck about either.

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                                    • Plan9
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 1801

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                      This is classic.

                                      Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).

                                      Its the Ad Hominem responose..attack the person, not his actual arguements. The best is when it comes to Michael Moore:
                                      "Whatever, that guys a fat bastard"
                                      Like...so what if he's fat?! Does that really change what he has to say?
                                      "Whatever. He's fat"

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                                      • Phoenix
                                        BACON BACON BACON
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 35475

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Plan9
                                        Its the Ad Hominem responose..attack the person, not his actual arguements. The best is when it comes to Michael Moore:
                                        "Whatever, that guys a fat bastard"
                                        Like...so what if he's fat?! Does that really change what he has to say?
                                        "Whatever. He's fat"
                                        Someone who has studied logic or philosophy





                                        sometimes the Ad hominem is a valid argument..but most times not
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                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 15793

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Tom_PM

                                          Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).
                                          by the way, have you EVER seen a Democrat being interviewed?

                                          I've YET to see one answer the question they were asked.

                                          q: what do you think of john kerry flip flopping on the war issue?
                                          a: george bush is the devil.

                                          q: what do you think of john kerrys voting record?
                                          a: george bush stole my sisters scooter.

                                          q: what's your name?
                                          a: george bush is a space lizard and the face you see is only a mask.


                                          and so on.

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                                          • Tom_PMs
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2004
                                            • 2049

                                            #22
                                            hehe, musta hit pretty close to the mark.

                                            You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                            • hershie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 4642

                                              #23
                                              I have read several well researched articles in Fortune, Forbes and Business Week magazine over the last 3 or 4 years on the Carlyle Group and the type of influence peddling they do and investments they make. Just try to access the archives online of those magazines and you will have tons of info.

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                                              • Plan9
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 1801

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                Someone who has studied logic or philosophy





                                                sometimes the Ad hominem is a valid argument..but most times not
                                                Indeed, if the ad hominem arguement called into question things that actually related to the validity of the arguement at hand...
                                                but as wel all know this isn't the case here

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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 28609

                                                  #25
                                                  go checkout the carlyle group online . it will tell you a bit about them


                                                  btw they recently bought cineplex odeon theatres
                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                  • marzzo
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 2134

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                    As stated.. whats up with this ?
                                                    Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

                                                    Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?

                                                    James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?

                                                    Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?

                                                    I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
                                                    Links for your research:

                                                    http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/...lex-sold_x.htm

                                                    http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/...eless+Internet

                                                    http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/carlyle-group/

                                                    http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/s...7/daily76.html
                                                    4 5 zero - 2 2 - nine nine nine

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                                                    • marzzo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 2134

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                      go checkout the carlyle group online . it will tell you a bit about them


                                                      btw they recently bought cineplex odeon theatres
                                                      yes, and Verizon Hawaii:

                                                      http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/...17/daily76.html
                                                      4 5 zero - 2 2 - nine nine nine

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                                                      • marzzo
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 2134

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                                        by the way, have you EVER seen a Democrat being interviewed?

                                                        I've YET to see one answer the question they were asked.

                                                        q: what do you think of john kerry flip flopping on the war issue?
                                                        a: george bush is the devil.

                                                        q: what do you think of john kerrys voting record?
                                                        a: george bush stole my sisters scooter.

                                                        q: what's your name?
                                                        a: george bush is a space lizard and the face you see is only a mask.


                                                        and so on.
                                                        you're so fucking retarded
                                                        4 5 zero - 2 2 - nine nine nine

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                                                        • Reak
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 17920

                                                          #29
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