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  • woj
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    • Fabien
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      • Jul 2003
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      #102
      Originally posted by pimplink
      Who's the better guitarist?

      The more mpgs of Hendrix I d/l off the Net, the more my respect for him grows. Classic!
      Both are great.
      Different period
      Different styles
      Both really left their marks !

      Anyways, you can't rate any of these guys.
      They are all equal. Don't worry, when Van Halen dies, he'll be respected as a god too (it's always the same)


      The thing about Hendrix is he was sooooooooooooooo stoned during his live performances hat it sucked a bit

      While some nights Van Halen was soooooo drunk

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      • Fabien
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        • Jul 2003
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        #103
        I remember when i heard Eruption back in 79 for the first time

        I went WHERE THE FUCK IS HE COMING FROM !!
        Alien or something ?

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        • mcfly
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          • Nov 2003
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          #104
          Jimi (duh). Not that Eddie isn't good, just Jimi rules.

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          • tony299
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            • Aug 2002
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            #105
            My thoughts I always thought Jimi was overrated. Now Eddie Van Halen created a new approach to playing electric guitar. The sad thing about Eddie is he hasnt evolved as a player like say Eric Clapton has. The best guitarist during Jimi's time the guy who did it first was Jeff Beck.

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            • Fabien
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              • Jul 2003
              • 4789

              #106
              Remember Frank Marino ?

              wow man this guy can play !

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              • neverlearn
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                • Feb 2004
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                #107
                Thats a retarded question..Jimi , Hands Down
                Give Jimi todays equipment and he would be without a doubt something that would be out of this world ( not that he isnt already)
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                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by neverlearn
                  Thats a retarded question..Jimi , Hands Down
                  Give Jimi todays equipment and he would be without a doubt something that would be out of this world ( not that he isnt already)

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                  • axelcat
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                    • Jun 2002
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                    #109
                    Jimi Hendrix all the way

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                    • mahoney
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                      • Nov 2003
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                      #110
                      Hendrix
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                      • Drake
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                        • Mar 2003
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by Praguer
                        Is a good gutarrist judged by the number and coolness of the tricks he can perform on a guitar? If yes, then absolutely Hendrix or Halen are no doubt the best.

                        If a good gutarrist means being able to express emotions and touch people in a way no words can do. Then my vote goes for:

                        Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana, Joe Satriani.
                        I think you have it the other way around. Jimi didn't do tricks with the guitar. Guitar tricks was a thing of the 80's. I think you're mistaking Jimi's whacked out performances where he lights his guitar on fire with the actual guitar playing.

                        People have been harsh on Halen in this thread. He may not have been Hendrix but he is a phenonemol player and offers more than just tricks too. Even if the only peice of Halen guitar playing one ever hears is his solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" you can hear that the guy was onto something special, that he has a deeper understanding the guitar than most. By birth Halen could not be Hendrix because he came around 20 years after Hendrix. It's like trying to re-invent the wheel, it can't be done, but amazing modifications can be made on the wheel.

                        Clapton and Hendrix are on the same plain coming from the same era and inspired by blues there playing is stuff that can never be duplicated. I didn't quite understand all this until I picked up a guitar on my own. After I did that, I realized the true genius of these guys.

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                        • Priapus
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                          • Mar 2004
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                          #112
                          To get back to the original question of this thread. First off, I think for his time Jimi was a better guitar player, but like all things the art has grown and with each new gen of guitarist the old is built in and new ground is created. No one can ever take away the new ground Eddie covered. Sure finger taps are easy, but he totally revolutionized the technique and introduced it to the mainstream as a real altrenative to simply picking a string with a pick or finger. I also think Eddie was more classically trained, which doesn't mean he's a better musician, but only that Eddie did have a better overall understanding of the instrument from a purely academic standpoint. But fuck academics. We're talking revolutionary music when we talk about Hendrix, music that moves the spirit and evocs emotion. Personally I tend to think an untrained musician who can play from the heart is much better to listen to on an emotional level the anyone who trains and studies music. Training robs you of original creativity imho and i've never enjoyed listening to trained studio musicians jam.
                          Last edited by Priapus; 09-10-2004, 11:19 AM.

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                          • trouserrat
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by Priapus
                            Training robs you of original creativity imho
                            Stupidest comment ever. Training opens up creative doors, it doesn't close them. Technically, Eddie is clearly better than Jimi although some may prefer Jimi for innovation and pure emotion. Not that Eddie doesn't have a hell of a lot of innovation in his own right. Anyone who thinks Kirk Hammett is even in the running here has no idea what they're talking about. He had some good leads in the beginning of Metallica's career, but their strength has always rested on Hetfield's songwriting and riffs. Hammett is sloppy as hell live, uses the pentatonic scale like it's going out of style (especially most recently), and appears to have a wah pedal surgically grafted to his foot. Any argument on his behalf is purely delusional. Although discussions on guitarists on this board bring out the amateur musicians much like discussions on politics bring out the amateur politicians so it doesn't surprise me. Btw, John Petrucci and Steve Vai beat any of the guitarists mentioned anyway.
                            Last edited by trouserrat; 09-10-2004, 12:00 PM.

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                            • Burridge
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                              • Sep 2003
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                              #114
                              Wow all you guitar wankers need to shut the fuck up.

                              1. Jimi playd with a million times more soul and is therefore infinitely better than some fucking lycra suit wanker.

                              2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.

                              3. For innovative, expressive, original guitar playing. Check for Joey Santiago of the Pixies. Angular, Emotive, Demented, ridiculously addictive guitar with heavy surf rock influences.

                              4. See number 2.

                              5. For emphasis, see number 4.
                              NYC

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                              • trouserrat
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 324

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Burridge
                                Wow all you guitar wankers need to shut the fuck up.

                                1. Jimi playd with a million times more soul and is therefore infinitely better than some fucking lycra suit wanker.

                                2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.

                                3. For innovative, expressive, original guitar playing. Check for Joey Santiago of the Pixies. Angular, Emotive, Demented, ridiculously addictive guitar with heavy surf rock influences.

                                4. See number 2.

                                5. For emphasis, see number 4.
                                Dude, you're soooo cool. Please grace us with more of your infinite musical knowledge.

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                                • Goatse
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                                  • Sep 2003
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                                  #116
                                  Jimi put on a good show, but his writing skills were unimpressive compared to Page, Townsend, et al. Much of the Hendrix worship comes from the fact that he died in his prime. Needless to say, if he were just another fat, balding, washed-up 60's rock hero, he wouldn't have such an iconic status. Overall, I'd put him slightly behind Eddie, even though he was more entertaining live.

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                                  • Burridge
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                                    • Sep 2003
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by trouserrat
                                    Dude, you're soooo cool. Please grace us with more of your infinite musical knowledge.
                                    Said the fuckwit who relates to hair metal in the way only a fuckwit can.
                                    NYC

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                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                      • Mar 2003
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                                      #118
                                      Finally some voices of reason come through.

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                                      • neverlearn
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                                        • Feb 2004
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                                        #119
                                        Hey all you wannabes
                                        keep your spinal tap fuckin hour long paragraphs to a minimum here, so us of us are drinking you know
                                        Fuck , you sound like a buncha guitarists or sumtin' ...
                                        ...at least this isnt a drummer thread though
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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by sickkittens
                                          Tough to say. It's like saying who was the best drummer. You cant compare really.
                                          That's easy, Carl Palmer then Ginger Baker

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                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            That's easy, Carl Palmer then Ginger Baker
                                            Oh no...

                                            Here we go again!

                                            Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!

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                                            • Drake
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #122
                                              eheheh

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                                              • baddog
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                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
                                                - if you like hendrix - get the dvd making of EL ... fucking cool
                                                psst . . . it even sounds good on vinyl

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                                                • baddog
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                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                  Oh no...

                                                  Here we go again!

                                                  Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!
                                                  put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard

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                                                  • Rebel D
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                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 3913

                                                    #125
                                                    What About Randy Rhodes?? Cut Down Before his time and such a fantasic Guitarist. But if i chose the 2 it woud need to be Eddie.

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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                      Oh no...

                                                      Here we go again!

                                                      Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!
                                                      listen to this drum solo

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                                                      • kowntafit
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                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 4667

                                                        #127
                                                        2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.
                                                        If you don't think metallica have any meaningful songs then you are a fucking retard and I'd like to hear what you think meaning full is. Perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the metaphors and language to understand their meaning. Find some site with song explanaions. You will be suprised. Their new album is shit but they have some quality songs. You obviously don't have a clue about music.



                                                        Jimi is awesome, I don't really like van halens style that much, or satriani. Steve Via is cool. Slash, Hammett and Jimi are my biggest influences. It's what youy play, it's how it sounds. Although there are more advanced guitarists out there, its the feel they have that I love so much. Every one has their own opinion.

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                                                        • Burridge
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                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 1186

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by kowntafit
                                                          If you don't think metallica have any meaningful songs then you are a fucking retard and I'd like to hear what you think meaning full is. Perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the metaphors and language to understand their meaning. Find some site with song explanaions. You will be suprised. Their new album is shit but they have some quality songs. You obviously don't have a clue about music.

                                                          What pissed me off reading this thread are the people who think eddie van halen was better than jimi henrix. eddie van halen wasn't better than anybody. he was just a hair metal wanker hick who slept with his guitar. That might've made him a good guitarist, but it certainly didn't make him a good musician.

                                                          And the same can be said for the entire genre of hair metal. Hair metal amazes me because when compared to any bad period of music before or after it, in all of music history, it will always come out as the worst. Try me on this.

                                                          I figured that Metallica has a huge fucking catalogue and I honestly enjoy about 6 of their songs out of that catalogue, and that pretty much qualifies them as being insignificant enough to be lumped in with the rest of the hopelessly tragic genre of hair metal.

                                                          Bad rock music is the worst music.
                                                          NYC

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                                                          • robfantasy
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                                                            • Jun 2002
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                                                            #129
                                                            even though i am a fan of EDM, and have no interest in rock whatsoever, Jimi Hendrix is the shit
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                                                            • pimplink
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 9535

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Fabien
                                                              Both are great.
                                                              Different period
                                                              Different styles
                                                              Both really left their marks !

                                                              Anyways, you can't rate any of these guys.
                                                              They are all equal. Don't worry, when Van Halen dies, he'll be respected as a god too (it's always the same)


                                                              The thing about Hendrix is he was sooooooooooooooo stoned during his live performances hat it sucked a bit

                                                              While some nights Van Halen was soooooo drunk
                                                              So perhaps the qustion should be ... what is better....
                                                              stoned guitar playing vs. drunk guitar playing??

                                                              If we go that route, then we'd have to ask....

                                                              what sounds better...

                                                              guitar playing on POT vs. on Ecstacy vs. on LSD (Hendrix sounded great on it!)

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                                                              • pimplink
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                                                                • Jun 2001
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                                                                #131
                                                                Any examples of NON Hair metal groups?

                                                                Nirvana comes to mind....

                                                                So does the lesser known but influential punk band The Kids and Flipper.

                                                                Originally posted by Burridge
                                                                What pissed me off reading this thread are the people who think eddie van halen was better than jimi henrix. eddie van halen wasn't better than anybody. he was just a hair metal wanker hick who slept with his guitar. That might've made him a good guitarist, but it certainly didn't make him a good musician.

                                                                And the same can be said for the entire genre of hair metal. Hair metal amazes me because when compared to any bad period of music before or after it, in all of music history, it will always come out as the worst. Try me on this.

                                                                I figured that Metallica has a huge fucking catalogue and I honestly enjoy about 6 of their songs out of that catalogue, and that pretty much qualifies them as being insignificant enough to be lumped in with the rest of the hopelessly tragic genre of hair metal.

                                                                Bad rock music is the worst music.

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                                                                • Nanda
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  HENDRIX
                                                                  My Ex-husband SKULL-BUITRE ran off to Colombia with OUR money and screwed me after I helped him build OUR business.
                                                                  He is hiding in Colombia and never paid the settlement $ from our divorce!

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                                                                  • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 1876

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Burridge
                                                                    2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history.
                                                                    Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                    • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                      • 1876

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                      Oh no...

                                                                      Here we go again!

                                                                      Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!
                                                                      Phil Collin?

                                                                      Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                      • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 1876

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                        psst . . . it even sounds good on vinyl
                                                                        haaave you eeeever beeen ...

                                                                        fuck gotta hear it now.

                                                                        "make love make love make love ..."
                                                                        Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                        • pimplink
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
                                                                          I wonder which musical genre is the stray bit of corn left rotting on the oozing feces of musical history.....

                                                                          Kenny Loggins?

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                                                                          • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by pimplink
                                                                            the stray bit of corn left rotting on the oozing feces of musical history...


                                                                            god i love a saturday night zanax bar
                                                                            Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                            • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 1876

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Goatse
                                                                              Jimi put on a good show, but his writing skills were unimpressive compared to Page, Townsend, et al.
                                                                              Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                              • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 1876

                                                                                #139


                                                                                ok im through babbling - off to the nudie bar!
                                                                                Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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