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  • Mr. Mojo Risin
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 1886

    #1

    Sending email to an opt in list questions

    Say I have a site where I ask surfers to sign up for free porn in their email. Is there anything illegal about sending them porn in their email daily if they subscribed?

    thanks
  • synapse
    NameNetwork.com
    • Jan 2003
    • 1175

    #2
    Opt In and permission marketing is terribly important as some of the companies have found with the recent FCC fines ... but I don't understand why we as an industry don't have a better solution for the bigger problem which is 'delivery'!

    Mr Mojo you will be able to build and email based list of potential customers but the bigger, more insidious issue is the auto junking by ISP's of your emails to those customers, regardless of if they've asked for it or not! The largest ISP's, aohell, m$n etc will kill your deliverys for a whole range of issues least of all the contence of the email.

    There's been a few companies who've promised to be able to solve the delivery delemia but I haven't found one yet ... one might go so far as to say email marketing is DEAD!

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    • Mr. Mojo Risin
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 1886

      #3
      Can Spam only applies to unsolicited email(spam), correct?

      So if someone signs up to receive the email, I can send them free porn without worrying about whether it is legal? No Sexually Explicit warning or physical address required?

      Synapse, that really sucks, I hope someone figures out a solution. I'm sure some of the email I would send would get auto junked, but not all of it.

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      • BlackCrayon
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2003
        • 19634

        #4
        someone posted a site that is whitelisted everywhere. you can't import lists tho, only collect them from websites i guess. not sure what the url was. maybe someone else will pop in and tell you.
        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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        • pornguy
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2003
          • 62910

          #5
          the statmen about mailing being dead, is not true.

          You need to be white listed with the companies like AOHELL, and M$N. and it can be done. One way is to pay. And that was done by one of the major adult companies, and I am NOT talking about adult. com
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          • BlackCrayon
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2003
            • 19634

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
            Can Spam only applies to unsolicited email(spam), correct?

            So if someone signs up to receive the email, I can send them free porn without worrying about whether it is legal? No Sexually Explicit warning or physical address required?

            Synapse, that really sucks, I hope someone figures out a solution. I'm sure some of the email I would send would get auto junked, but not all of it.
            no, unfortunately one of the can spam laws is that the email must of opted into your list.
            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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            • synapse
              NameNetwork.com
              • Jan 2003
              • 1175

              #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
              Can Spam only applies to unsolicited email(spam), correct?

              So if someone signs up to receive the email, I can send them free porn without worrying about whether it is legal? No Sexually Explicit warning or physical address required?

              Synapse, that really sucks, I hope someone figures out a solution. I'm sure some of the email I would send would get auto junked, but not all of it.
              my understanding is the can spam requirements are for all emails opt in or not, but maybe someone has more knowledge on that ?!

              i'm not suggesting all u'r emails will get junked but i know from experience it'll be more then u'r happy with

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              • stevo
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2002
                • 2051

                #8
                The Can-Spam Act that President Bush signed in December required the Federal Trade Commission to come up with a label for unsolicited pornographic e-mail. The FTC responded by declaring that anyone sending sexually oriented material must include the warning "SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT:" in the Subject line. Violators face fines.

                So im guessing if they opted in, you do not have to use this subject line?

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                • synapse
                  NameNetwork.com
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1175

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                  someone posted a site that is whitelisted everywhere. you can't import lists tho, only collect them from websites i guess. not sure what the url was. maybe someone else will pop in and tell you.
                  the only company that i've heard of is bighip.com that claims to be whitelisted everywhere and unfortunately we've never been able to get a response from them and only get their answering machine when we call

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                  • Mr. Mojo Risin
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1886

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                    no, unfortunately one of the can spam laws is that the email must of opted into your list.

                    isn't signing up to get emailed "opt in"?


                    and confirming that via email "double opt in"?

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                    • Mr. Mojo Risin
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1886

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stevo
                      The Can-Spam Act that President Bush signed in December required the Federal Trade Commission to come up with a label for unsolicited pornographic e-mail. The FTC responded by declaring that anyone sending sexually oriented material must include the warning "SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT:" in the Subject line. Violators face fines.

                      So im guessing if they opted in, you do not have to use this subject line?

                      that's what I'm guessing...

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                      • synapse
                        NameNetwork.com
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1175

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pornguy
                        the statmen about mailing being dead, is not true.

                        You need to be white listed with the companies like AOHELL, and M$N. and it can be done. One way is to pay. And that was done by one of the major adult companies, and I am NOT talking about adult. com
                        i was being provocative not literal ;)

                        we've tried the white listing process with aol and while we've been offically certified they still have alot of problems in trems of their junk list caching at a server and client side.

                        if you have any advice or could put me in touch with someone who's had success with it i'd be hugely gratefull

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                        • BlackCrayon
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 19634

                          #13
                          Originally posted by synapse
                          the only company that i've heard of is bighip.com that claims to be whitelisted everywhere and unfortunately we've never been able to get a response from them and only get their answering machine when we call
                          yeah, that was it.
                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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