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  • Sama
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    • Aug 2002
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    Any Rottweiler Owners?

    I have an opportunity to adopt a Rottweiler from a bad home.
    Female 6 months old, beautiful.

    Can you tell me the good and the bad about them?
    Kinda want to know what I'm getting into.
    Good with kids? Other pets? etc.....

    Thanks

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    • TheJimmy
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      I had two for about 11 years...

      I lost both of them last year to old age & cancer issues


      Anyways, they were awesome! I treated them like family. They were spoiled and they were house dogs. They were great around people and kids. The male was a bit TOO happy around people, he had a jumping & slobbering problem that got better in time.

      They have the potential to be dangerous dogs if their temperment is bad. If you can meet the dog's siblings or parents that's a great thing, if not, spend some time around her and see what she's like. Does she tolerate hugs, tugs, etc... My female loved it.

      The only thing I didn't care for as an owner of Rotties was people's generalizations of them as junk yard killers, and the SHEDDING the damm hair gets everywhere lol...If you keep a clean house and vacuum often no biggie, if not you'll want to pickup that habit.


      Honestly right now I don't want dogs again for a while, I want to travel and not worry if a hotel takes dogs, dogsitters for when they don't, etc... When I do get another dog I might consider going with a Rott again but then again it would just remind me of my two babies so I might go for another breed. Still kinda tears me up thinking about them, I'm sappy that way.


      Ok, after all that rambling...bottom line is they are great dogs. Treat them well and it will pay off. If you want a dog you can throw in the yard and leave there, please don't adopt her.


      Oh, one last thing, they are stubborn as hell, so be prepared to spend a little time in training. It's fun and they love it.
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        • NoCarrier
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          #3
          Originally posted by Sama
          I have an opportunity to adopt a Rottweiler from a bad home.
          Female 6 months old, beautiful.

          Can you tell me the good and the bad about them?
          Kinda want to know what I'm getting into.
          Good with kids? Other pets? etc.....

          Thanks
          If you want to take the risk that one day the stupid Rottweiler decides to take a bite outta your kids. Sure.

          The neighbors had a rottweiler (one of the reasons why I decided to move and buy another house). I'm serious, if it wasn't of the fence, my kids would be dead by now. I hate those fucking dogs.

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            • LukieD
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              • Dec 2001
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              I dont have any history with dogs but I don't think its a good idea to get a dog which is notorious for attacking people if its come from a bad home. Its very different getting a rottweiler as a puppy and bringing it up well..

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                • PrintAdult-Sales
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                  They are kinda dumb but they are playfull. You have to teach them early on how to deal with others cause when they get older the get more stubborn. Be carefull the may bite at the most unexpecting times for whatever reason. Overall they are good dogs and they can make real nice pets/friends. And one more thing some people have allergies to either their druel or their coat! Check that out before you take the dog in! I hope I helped in some way! Have a good day!

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                    • E Guru
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                      If you want to take the risk that one day the stupid Rottweiler decides to take a bite outta your kids. Sure.

                      The neighbors had a rottweiler (one of the reasons why I decided to move and buy another house). I'm serious, if it wasn't of the fence, my kids would be dead by now. I hate those fucking dogs.
                      The dogs are only as good as their owners.
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                        • The Other Sweetie
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                          I'd be a little concerned about taking one from a bad home, but I do love rotts. My sis has one, had it since it was a lil puppy. He's a lil over 4 years old now and is a big baby. They have a 4 yr old daughter who has grown up with the dog and there are no issues whatsoever. The dog LOVES her. He adopted a new habit of pissing on new people he meets for the first time, but other than that he's great. lol

                          He's never attacked anyone, but he's extremely protective of females. I've seen firsthand a guy make the mistake of raising his hand at me in front of Tyson and he went nuts. Not biting or attacking, but growling like a mother fucker and baring his teeth at the guy.

                          There definitely is a misconception about them. Granted, some of it is rightfully gained, but they can also be extremely loving dogs. Tyson ran out of the house one day when we opened the front door and of all people, there was a cop outside. Tyse is very friendly and wanted to go up to the cop, but seeing a big Rott coming at him totally freaked the cop out. He pulled his gun on Tyson in front of my 4 yr old niece and started yelling that he was going to shoot him. He was just doing what a normal, happy dog does, wanting to greet a new person. Any other dog and I guarantee that cop wouldn't have pulled his fucken gun, but that's the misconception you have to deal with when you've got a Rott.

                          They're strong as hell, too. I can barely take him for walks anymore because he's too strong for me. He breaks his thick metal chain leashes.

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                            • Sama
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              Wow....2 totally different opinions so far. lol

                              When I say she is coming from a "bad home", that is more due to neglect than anything....the owners work long hours out of the home and she is kept in one of those dog carriers to stop her from chewing and peeing, etc.... So by the time they do get home, she has been in that freakin' "jail" about 10 hours. To me, that is a "bad" home.

                              We are big time animal lovers here and have 2 cats. We lost our beloved dog to old age a while back. I'm like you TheJimmy, 2 days ago I was not ready for another replacement yet. Hurts too much. But, this opportunity is here and its making me look at things differently.

                              I did spend about 2 hours with her yesterday, very playful and dying for attention. She seemed a little skitish in the beginning but soon warmed right up.

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                                • TheJimmy
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by PrintAdult-Sales
                                  They are kinda dumb but they are playfull. You have to teach them early on how to deal with others cause when they get older the get more stubborn. Be carefull the may bite at the most unexpecting times for whatever reason. ...
                                  as with any dog, the difference is a Rott can definitely kill someone...

                                  I trained both of mine from when they were young in regards to "NO biting" not even playing....NOT ever...


                                  As for the dumb and playful part, I've met a few truly 'not smart' Rotties, including my female, but she was sweet and able to do basic training...my male however was one of the smartest dogs I've known, taught himself shit even as an older dog, it was a trip...
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                                    • PussyTeenies
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                                      i had a rottweiler for 7 years..

                                      One kickass good and very brave dog
                                      perfect with small kids and with my cat

                                      great dog(s) but also people fear them because they look mean???

                                      my .. but if she has no problems that they know off.. give it a try

                                      they are very good in houses and for kids
                                      although thats my experience with them
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                                        • simple simon
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                                          get a real mans dog......A Doberman
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                                            • Tera
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                                              I love Rotts, I have never owned one but I have been around plenty. If you get them early enough, train them and love them they are wonderful beautiful animals. What everybody here says about misconception is definitly true, I hate that about big dogs. Rotts are so loving, and they are great family dogs if they are taken care of correctly. If you aren't home a lot and don't have the time to take care of one, don't get it, the dog will be miserable and so will you.

                                              If you check out some dog sites and such you will find a lot of good information on care, what kind of dogs do best with families and so on. Good luck and if you do get her, post a pic and take care of her


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                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                  Originally posted by Sama
                                                  Wow....2 totally different opinions so far. lol

                                                  When I say she is coming from a "bad home", that is more due to neglect than anything....the owners work long hours out of the home and she is kept in one of those dog carriers to stop her from chewing and peeing, etc.... So by the time they do get home, she has been in that freakin' "jail" about 10 hours. To me, that is a "bad" home.

                                                  We are big time animal lovers here and have 2 cats. We lost our beloved dog to old age a while back. I'm like you TheJimmy, 2 days ago I was not ready for another replacement yet. Hurts too much. But, this opportunity is here and its making me look at things differently.

                                                  I did spend about 2 hours with her yesterday, very playful and dying for attention. She seemed a little skitish in the beginning but soon warmed right up.


                                                  Wow, if you're an animal lover, and won't yard dog her, and spend some time training her she'd most likely make a great addition to your family. One thing, make sure to spend time on the no play biting issue. They love to roughhouse and need to learn that they can ONLY do that with you and one of those big twisted ropes, it's a blast, but that they can not do that with anyone or anything else.

                                                  Skittish, sure...being locked in a kennel all day and meeting someone new, that makes sense. They are very social dogs and need to be around people, when they are not, they can get strange like any animal or human (imagine if people yard dogged their kids and how they'd be)...

                                                  The only thing I'd consider is checking out how she reacts to your cats. My brother in law has a large (one of the dumb versions of Rotties but sweet as hell) male, and they also have a small cat. They had an incident one time that we think was an accident, but he was beyond upset about the whole thing...and could have been avoided if keeping animals away from eachother's food during feeding would have been paid more attention too...

                                                  However today that dog and cat coexist very well together and actually get along.



                                                  I'd take a cat over and see how she does with it. If you think it's doable give it a shot. If not be honest with yourself and just try to help find her another home. That is a horrible situation she's living in and is exactly how NOT to own/raise a Rottie
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                                                    • chazer
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                                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                      If you want to take the risk that one day the stupid Rottweiler decides to take a bite outta your kids. Sure.

                                                      The neighbors had a rottweiler (one of the reasons why I decided to move and buy another house). I'm serious, if it wasn't of the fence, my kids would be dead by now. I hate those fucking dogs.
                                                      you're a jackass. what breeds of dog don't you have "horror stories" about?

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                                                        • Pete-KT
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                                                          Had one for 3 years and one day it went crazy and started trying to attack all of us, They have lots of brain issues for the fact that the last 15-20 years of rot's many of them are inbread because they were almost gone and they go crazy for no reason

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                                                            • Sama
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                                                              Tera,
                                                              Yes the love and attention for her would a definte! The great thing is we are here all day and she would be inside and part of the family.

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                                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by PussyTeenies
                                                                  ...

                                                                  they are very good in houses and for kids
                                                                  although thats my experience with them

                                                                  agreed, although my female was not SUPER thrilled about having a little kid climb over her, etc...when there was any type of commotion (running in the house, rough play with people or the male) she became VERY protective of the young kid(s)...she had an amazing maternal instinct that overrulled her bitch factor (which she definitely had at times lol)

                                                                  ...also my male was very protective at night in general and esp when I wasn't home....the woman always felt protected with him in the house, neither dog liked it when we play fought and would attempt to jump in between us, was kinda funny
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                                                                    • simple simon
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                                                                      if you have kids, why jeopardize their safety with a big dumb breed of dog such as a rott?
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                                                                        • HammerALL
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                                                                          Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                          If you want to take the risk that one day the stupid Rottweiler decides to take a bite outta your kids. Sure.

                                                                          The neighbors had a rottweiler (one of the reasons why I decided to move and buy another house). I'm serious, if it wasn't of the fence, my kids would be dead by now. I hate those fucking dogs.

                                                                          Again - people making a decision based on one experience - My rottweiler - is a beautiful animals - plays with the kids in my neighborhood and doesn't even go on leash - because you had som stupid fucking moron neighbors that didn't take the time to train a dog - obviously their all bad - typical narrow minded bullshit. Rottweilers like any other working breed are alot of responsiblity and need alot of work - and should not be a responsibility entered into lightly. Because if you do enter it lightly - you get people who will stereotype them without ever getting a chance to know them. So if you are looking to adopt this Rottweiler and take some serious time into training it - socializing it - than yes - it can be a beautiful pet - as anyone here on the boards who has met my dog can attest to. Unfortunately their are stupid owners out there who give these dogs a bad name.
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                                                                            • EZRhino
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                                                                              In my opinion they are great dogs and loving to their owners. One draw back with ours is that she is extremely territorial and protective about her family. So she can be a bit scary if you even point you finger at a member of her family the wrong way. She can a 130lb freight train with teeth.
                                                                              I hear that a good obedience school can do wonders with any dog.

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                                                                                • HammerALL
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                                                                                  Originally posted by simple simon
                                                                                  if you have kids, why jeopardize their safety with a big dumb breed of dog such as a rott?

                                                                                  You just suggested a Doberman as a real dog - which if you knew the first thing about them - you would know they are half rottweiler- man your name suits you.
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                                                                                    • EZRhino
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                                                                                      Originally posted by Platinum Mario
                                                                                      Again - people making a decision based on one experience - My rottweiler - is a beautiful animals - plays with the kids in my neighborhood and doesn't even go on leash - because you had som stupid fucking moron neighbors that didn't take the time to train a dog - obviously their all bad - typical narrow minded bullshit. Rottweilers like any other working breed are alot of responsiblity and need alot of work - and should not be a responsibility entered into lightly. Because if you do enter it lightly - you get people who will stereotype them without ever getting a chance to know them. So if you are looking to adopt this Rottweiler and take some serious time into training it - socializing it - than yes - it can be a beautiful pet - as anyone here on the boards who has met my dog can attest to. Unfortunately their are stupid owners out there who give these dogs a bad name.
                                                                                      Absolutely right, we should have spent more time socializing our dog as well.

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                                                                                        • TheJimmy
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                          you're a jackass. what breeds of dog don't you have "horror stories" about?

                                                                                          Chiuauas?

                                                                                          I guess it'd be the difference between being raped by Lexington Steele or someone with a 2 inch weiner...

                                                                                          still shitty but one is going to do WAAAY more damage than the other physically...




                                                                                          so it should be a consideration when owning a dog, how deadly can it get, and am I willing to take that risk and do EVERYTHING possible to ensure it never happens (ie; spending a lot of time bonding with the dog, training it & teaching it rules of the house/family, and constant vigilance to the level you would consider appropriate leaving two kids in a room together with rocks and sticks)
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                                                                                            • simple simon
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                                                                                              Originally posted by Platinum Mario
                                                                                              You just suggested a Doberman as a real dog - which if you knew the first thing about them - you would know they are half rottweiler- man your name suits you.
                                                                                              if you think a doberman and rott are even remotely similar, I suggest back to boarding school for you. And they are not half rott
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                                                                                                • Rilose
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                                                                                                  Only 6 months old..still very trainable with proper guidence..There' a very steep chance that a dog of that age can be trained well. I would give it a shoot cause it's young. My wife and I might adopt a dog this year from a fucked up home or shelter, but it will be young though, not old.....habits are imbedded already at a later age.
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                                                                                                    • Gunni
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                                                                                                      Where I come from there have actually been more attacks by Labradors then Rots...
                                                                                                      Rotweilers are good dogs, but like any other dogs they can become mental if treated wrong, also it's a good idea to make sure it is not an inbreed, they often have mental issues

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                                                                                                        • HammerALL
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by simple simon
                                                                                                          if you think a doberman and rott are even remotely similar, I suggest back to boarding school for you. And they are not half rott
                                                                                                          Read up Moron:

                                                                                                          http://www.barkbytes.com/history/dobie.htm


                                                                                                          The Rottweiler was used in the development of the breed due to its massiveness and intelligence. This very solid dog also possessed great stamina, and had excellent tracking ability. Sometimes the Rottweiler strain can be seen in a Doberman with a "wavy" coat.
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                                                                                                            • HammerALL
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                                                                                                              Another one for you simple simon:

                                                                                                              http://www.petcrest.com/doberhi.html

                                                                                                              The Doberman has absorbed the good qualities of the breeds that have contributed to its foundation. The major breeds responsible for the formation of this working dog and the black and tan Rottweiler, the old German Pinscher, and the famed Thueringian Shepherd dogs.

                                                                                                              So you may need to learn how to read before suggesting boarding school.
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                                                                                                                • NoCarrier
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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                                                  you're a jackass. what breeds of dog don't you have "horror stories" about?
                                                                                                                  What kind of stupid dumbass you are? Some dogs are more dangerous than others.
                                                                                                                  Stats from the CDC show that pit bull terriers, Rottweilers, German shepherds, Siberian Huskies and wolf hybrids. Were involved in 129 of the 177 fatal attacks on people in the U.S. from 1979 to 1994.

                                                                                                                  And this does not include the non fatal attacks. Yes, the dogs owners are really important with the dog's behavior. But that doesn't mean a rottweiler can be less dangerous.

                                                                                                                  Seriously, Are you that fucking retarded?
                                                                                                                  Last edited by NoCarrier; 08-23-2005, 10:25 AM.

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                                                                                                                    • HammerALL
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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                      What kind of stupid dumbass you are? Some dogs are more dangerous than others.
                                                                                                                      Stats from the CDC show that pit bull terriers, Rottweilers, German shepherds, Siberian Huskies and wolf hybrids. Were involved in 129 of the 177 fatal attacks on people in the U.S. from 1979 to 1994.

                                                                                                                      And this does not include the non fatal attacks. Yes, the dogs owners are really important with the dog's behavior. But that doesn't mean a rottweiler can be less dangerous.

                                                                                                                      Seriously, Are you that fucking retarded?
                                                                                                                      http://www.fataldogattacks.com/ - you should read the whole article.

                                                                                                                      From 1965 - 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States. (This number rises to at least 52 breeds/types when surveying fatal attacks worldwide). We are increasingly becoming a society that has less and less tolerance and understanding of natural canine behaviors. Breed specific behaviors that have been respected and selected for over the centuries are now often viewed as unnatural or dangerous. Dogs have throughout the centuries served as protectors and guardians of our property, possessions and families. Dogs have also been used for thousands of years to track, chase and hunt both large and small animals. These natural and selected-for canine behaviors seem to now eliciting fear, shock and a sense of distrust among many people.

                                                                                                                      There seems to be an ever growing expectation of a "behaviorally homogenized" dog - "Benji" in the shape of a Rottweiler. Breeds of dogs with greater protection instincts or an elevated prey-drive are often unfairly viewed as "aggressive or dangerous". No breed of dog is inherently vicious, as all breeds of dogs were created and are maintained exclusively to serve and co-exist with humans. The problem exists not within the breed of dog, but rather within the owners that fail to control, supervise, maintain and properly train the breed of dog they choose to keep.
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                                                                                                                        • NoCarrier
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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Platinum Mario
                                                                                                                          http://www.fataldogattacks.com/ - you should read the whole article.
                                                                                                                          http://www.fataldogattacks.com/statistics.html

                                                                                                                          Thanks for the link!

                                                                                                                          Breeds Involved

                                                                                                                          "Pit Bull and Pit-bull-type dogs (21%),
                                                                                                                          Mixed breed dogs (16%),
                                                                                                                          Rottweilers (13%),
                                                                                                                          German Shepherd Dogs (9%), Wolf Dogs (5%),
                                                                                                                          Siberian Huskies (5%), Malamutes (4%), Great Danes (3%),
                                                                                                                          St. Bernards (3%), Chow Chows (3%), Doberman Pinschers (3%),
                                                                                                                          other breeds & non-specified breeds (15%).

                                                                                                                          Victim Profile
                                                                                                                          79% of all fatal attacks were on children under the age of 12
                                                                                                                          12% of the victims were the elderly, aged 65 - 94
                                                                                                                          9% of the victims were 13 - 64 years old

                                                                                                                          As you can see, 13% of those fatal attacks involved a Rottweiler, as a parent, I'd be seriously concerned.
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                                                                                                                            • HammerALL
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                              http://www.fataldogattacks.com/statistics.html

                                                                                                                              Thanks for the link!

                                                                                                                              Breeds Involved

                                                                                                                              "Pit Bull and Pit-bull-type dogs (21%),
                                                                                                                              Mixed breed dogs (16%),
                                                                                                                              Rottweilers (13%),
                                                                                                                              German Shepherd Dogs (9%), Wolf Dogs (5%),
                                                                                                                              Siberian Huskies (5%), Malamutes (4%), Great Danes (3%),
                                                                                                                              St. Bernards (3%), Chow Chows (3%), Doberman Pinschers (3%),
                                                                                                                              other breeds & non-specified breeds (15%).

                                                                                                                              Victim Profile
                                                                                                                              79% of all fatal attacks were on children under the age of 12
                                                                                                                              12% of the victims were the elderly, aged 65 - 94
                                                                                                                              9% of the victims were 13 - 64 years old

                                                                                                                              As you can see, 13% of those fatal attacks involved a Rottweiler, as a parent, I'd be seriously concerned.

                                                                                                                              Just like a typical narrow minded individual - you didn't read the whole article - thanks for proving my point -
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                                                                                                                                • NoCarrier
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Platinum Mario
                                                                                                                                  Just like a typical narrow minded individual - you didn't read the whole article - thanks for proving my point -
                                                                                                                                  I don't give a damn about your article. I read it, and it's bullshit to sell that book. What I wanted to see were the STATS. And it proved my point. We are talking about fatal attacks here. I can't imagine the numbers of non fatal attacks involving a rottweiler.
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                                                                                                                                    • chazer
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                                      What kind of stupid dumbass you are? Some dogs are more dangerous than others.
                                                                                                                                      Stats from the CDC show that pit bull terriers, Rottweilers, German shepherds, Siberian Huskies and wolf hybrids. Were involved in 129 of the 177 fatal attacks on people in the U.S. from 1979 to 1994.

                                                                                                                                      And this does not include the non fatal attacks. Yes, the dogs owners are really important with the dog's behavior. But that doesn't mean a rottweiler can be less dangerous.

                                                                                                                                      Seriously, Are you that fucking retarded?
                                                                                                                                      yeh sure, go trip on a big fat dick

                                                                                                                                      ps- btw just from the stats you posted mixed breed dogs/unidentified dogs have the highest percentage of fatal attacks.
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                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                                                                          yeh sure, go trip on a big fat dick you fag hag.
                                                                                                                                          High school comebacks?

                                                                                                                                          nigga, please.

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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                                              I don't give a damn about your article. I read it, and it's bullshit to sell that book. What I wanted to see were the STATS. And it proved my point. We are talking about fatal attacks here. I can't imagine the numbers of non fatal attacks involving a rottweiler.
                                                                                                                                              And what are your stats - but not to sell an idea - and try and convince a populace against a certain breed - because of your one poor experience your trying to intice a campaign against a breed of dog - you know absolutely nothing about - I would hate to see if you were attacked by a certain ethnical race - would you try and ban them as well - your logic is jaded and clouded - and again narrow minded
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  177 fatal attacks in 15 years. 13% commited by Rottweilers.

                                                                                                                                                  That is only 23 fatal attacks in a 15 year period. That's less then 2 fatal attacks per year. There is more likely hood of your child being abducted and sexually assaulted by someone you know then being killed by a Rottweiler.
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by chazer; 08-23-2005, 10:52 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                                                                                      ps- btw just from the stats you posted mixed breed dogs/unidentified dogs have the highest percentage of fatal attacks.
                                                                                                                                                      God, you are so fucking dumb. I kinda feel sorry for you.

                                                                                                                                                      Yes, it has the highest percentage of fatal attacks, but that 15% include many breeds.

                                                                                                                                                      The rottweiler have 13% and it's just the rottweilers.

                                                                                                                                                      Jesus, why am I even taking the time to explain this to you and humiliate you even more.

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                                                                                                                                                          My brother is seriously considering getting one, I would prefer he gets a lab or retriever seeing as how he wants a kid in the next couple years, I would just feel better about it...... as would his fiance.
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                                                                                                                                                              read 3 posts up. if you think 23 is a big number then you have no concept of quantity. you could say it should be 0 but you need to be realistic.

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                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.nbc17.com/family/2765296/...Own%20A%20Dog?

                                                                                                                                                                  CDC's 10 Most Dangerous Dogs List

                                                                                                                                                                  While national statistics show at least 30 breeds have attacked humans, 10 dog breeds are on the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's most dangerous list, meaning they tend to bite the most frequently. They are:

                                                                                                                                                                  Pit bulls
                                                                                                                                                                  Rottweilers
                                                                                                                                                                  German Shepherds
                                                                                                                                                                  Huskies
                                                                                                                                                                  Alaskan Malamutes
                                                                                                                                                                  Doberman Pinschers
                                                                                                                                                                  Chow Chows
                                                                                                                                                                  Great Danes
                                                                                                                                                                  St. Bernards
                                                                                                                                                                  Akitas

                                                                                                                                                                  The breeds considered most likely to kill are pit bulls and rottweilers, and the CDC says that a chained dog is more likely to bite than an unchained dog.

                                                                                                                                                                  The CDC also says the majority of dog attacks happen at home or in a familiar place, which is why choosing the right dog for your family is crucial.

                                                                                                                                                                  "There are approximately 4.5 million reported dog bites annually in the United States (nearly 2% of the American population). The majority of dog bites are never reported to local authorities."
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by NoCarrier; 08-23-2005, 10:57 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                      BTW - one thing that if you have taken a basic Finite math class you would know about statistics is that they have co-relations that must be taken into consideration. For example white and silver cars get into more accidents than any other color of car - well the corelation to this is that the two most popular colors in new cars are white and silver - so therefore it would figure that by the law of statistic that there are more of them out there - there is a greater chance of them getting into an accident. Rottweilers are well within the top 20 of most popular dogs (http://www.futurepets.com/top50breeds.htm) # 13 to be exact - so could it just be comon sense because there are alot of them that there are more occurences - Again not sure if this can compute into the way you like to figure your statistic - but it's basic math
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                                                                                                          read 3 posts up. if you think 23 is a big number then you have no concept of quantity. you could say it should be 0 but you need to be realistic.
                                                                                                                                                                          "There are approximately 4.5 million reported dog bites annually in the United States (nearly 2% of the American population). The majority of dog bites are never reported to local authorities."

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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                                                                              ...
                                                                                                                                                                              The breeds considered most likely to kill are pit bulls and rottweilers, and the CDC says that a chained dog is more likely to bite than an unchained dog.

                                                                                                                                                                              The CDC also says the majority of dog attacks happen at home or in a familiar place, which is why choosing the right dog for your family is crucial.

                                                                                                                                                                              ...

                                                                                                                                                                              no shit, think about it, if you chain a person up and leave them outside,they MIGHT get a little crazy on your ass, same thing happens with dogs, and it's especially dangerous when a dog has some serious POUNDS per square inch pressure in their jaws...


                                                                                                                                                                              also, the majority of car accidents happen closer to your house...reason being, you are THERE more often than not...I don't know many people that hang out on the street with dogs more than in their house or the "attacks happen at home or in a familiar place" would shift, oh wait, a FAMILIAR place....that's a revelation? please



                                                                                                                                                                              bottom line, yes they can kill, so you should respect them and be mindful of that

                                                                                                                                                                              however, it does not imply that because they can kill that they WILL

                                                                                                                                                                              not all guns kill but they have the potential, being mindful and having respect is common sense

                                                                                                                                                                              so if your point is to remind people to have common sense around dangerous things.........good






                                                                                                                                                                              PS: remember to apply this to cars, trucks, motorcycles and water sport apparatus & activities

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.nbc17.com/family/2765296/...Own%20A%20Dog?

                                                                                                                                                                                  CDC's 10 Most Dangerous Dogs List

                                                                                                                                                                                  While national statistics show at least 30 breeds have attacked humans, 10 dog breeds are on the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's most dangerous list, meaning they tend to bite the most frequently. They are:

                                                                                                                                                                                  Pit bulls
                                                                                                                                                                                  Rottweilers
                                                                                                                                                                                  German Shepherds
                                                                                                                                                                                  Huskies
                                                                                                                                                                                  Alaskan Malamutes
                                                                                                                                                                                  Doberman Pinschers
                                                                                                                                                                                  Chow Chows
                                                                                                                                                                                  Great Danes
                                                                                                                                                                                  St. Bernards
                                                                                                                                                                                  Akitas

                                                                                                                                                                                  The breeds considered most likely to kill are pit bulls and rottweilers, and the CDC says that a chained dog is more likely to bite than an unchained dog.

                                                                                                                                                                                  The CDC also says the majority of dog attacks happen at home or in a familiar place, which is why choosing the right dog for your family is crucial.

                                                                                                                                                                                  "There are approximately 4.5 million reported dog bites annually in the United States (nearly 2% of the American population). The majority of dog bites are never reported to local authorities."
                                                                                                                                                                                  yeh, make sure you keep that list handy so you can jump in whenever someone mentions one of those breeds.

                                                                                                                                                                                  someone else "I just got a new german shephar pup, so cute"

                                                                                                                                                                                  you "i almost got killed by one of those, they are dangerous and should be eliminated from the face of the earth blah blah I think I know what I'm talking about blah blah"

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                                                      bottom line, yes they can kill, so you should respect them and be mindful of that

                                                                                                                                                                                      however, it does not imply that because they can kill that they WILL
                                                                                                                                                                                      Well, the person who started this thread wanted to see opinions. Not the truth from God. My opinion is that I would never and I mean never own a Rottweiler if you have kids. Why take the chance? The stats are against you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                                                          no shit, think about it, if you chain a person up and leave them outside,they MIGHT get a little crazy on your ass, same thing happens with dogs, and it's especially dangerous when a dog has some serious POUNDS per square inch pressure in their jaws...


                                                                                                                                                                                          also, the majority of car accidents happen closer to your house...reason being, you are THERE more often than not...I don't know many people that hang out on the street with dogs more than in their house or the "attacks happen at home or in a familiar place" would shift, oh wait, a FAMILIAR place....that's a revelation? please



                                                                                                                                                                                          bottom line, yes they can kill, so you should respect them and be mindful of that

                                                                                                                                                                                          however, it does not imply that because they can kill that they WILL

                                                                                                                                                                                          not all guns kill but they have the potential, being mindful and having respect is common sense

                                                                                                                                                                                          so if your point is to remind people to have common sense around dangerous things.........good






                                                                                                                                                                                          PS: remember to apply this to cars, trucks, motorcycles and water sport apparatus & activities




                                                                                                                                                                                          That's the best way to put it - and I can definitely agree with that - everything has potiential to harm should be respected.
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chazer
                                                                                                                                                                                              yeh, make sure you keep that list handy so you can jump in whenever someone mentions one of those breeds.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I will, thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  No carrier you're a fucking idiot and that's all I'll say on the matter.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                                                                                      No carrier you're a fucking idiot and that's all I'll say on the matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do you want a cookie?

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