I laught at you linkex idiots

I worked with Katja on a Jenna movie. That bitch can take it up the ass without breakin a sweat... How does her site convert???

Yes i noticed this could cause a seo issue,but not just on link ex,on thunderball as well.I mean,cant everyvone have keyword porn.For example i using keyword porn portal.Nothing special,but atleast is not porn keyword.

Thunderball I can deny the trade if your keyword is too generic or sucks or your site is crap.

I agree 100% with this thread.

And this forum is probably the single largest linker to sites with linkex, talk about linking to bad neighborhoods.

I fully beleive that "linkex" should be a banned term here, its trashing this Trade Forum.

Well tehnicily you cant lose anything by having repeated keyword.You could be penalized only if you repeat keyword over 1000 times on one page.

why is it always losers with thunder-ball in their sig's that trash on linkex? at least we don't have to rely on someone elses' server being up for our links to work. I like being in control of my scripts and not relying on a thunder-ball troll to keep his hosting bill paid.

linex is on my server not like thunder-ball, which requires you stay on their tit

I can bann linkex trades on domain, ip, email or all. what other features am I missing with a simple link trade script?

afraid of competition much? me thinks so.

~Ray

you and V are jealous little hater trolls.

~Ray

do you even realize that you called over 300 gfy webmasters idiots?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=740185

who in the fuck would ever do business with you trolls now? I'm certainly going to remind people from now on that you think hundreds of us are idiots because of our choice of link trading scripts. real professional of you , fucking prick.

~Ray

When the world stops doing business with me, the world will cease to exist.

My point was for the guy that gets the link...

Why have a link for the same keyword as someone else? Not once but eight times?

Makes no sense... dilutes the vote for your site.

I use linkex, but I moderate the links weekly and if your site is poor quality it is out, and if it differs from my niche.

But the SE's are seeing you link to those bad neighborhoods all week long..

Yes you gain some PR from killing the links if they leave your link up, but at the same time, you are killing your sites trust and if you read anything about Google, TR is bigger than PR.

Jealous of what? Afraid of what? We spend all day looking for trades and find most sites polluted with this shit. Fact of the matter is, if you have an auto-add link feature built into your site that is duplicated accross a vast majority of poor sites, you are asking for trouble. Google only has to search "linkex" or " inurl:/linkex/" to identify and remove the pages from its index, and soon as it sees that its a common denominator, seeya. Here is how hard its gonna be : http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...%2findex%2ephp

Show me some linkex sites that rank for their chosen keywords. I've asked tons of times and nobody has got shit to show cept spammy garbage.

And what I do hate, is coming to adult webmaster forums looking for trades and only finding THOUSANDS of garbage sites running linkex and looking for auto-adds. Talk about fucking lazy webmastery, and talk about shooting themselves in the foot. And idiots spouting off about how good it is when its pretty apparent they are so fucking clueless that the fact they can open a browser is a shocker.

And "idiots with thunder-ball" , if you want to talk shop about link power and link weight I am more then happy to make you look like a fool. You can bring all your mutlipost/spam/rss/junk/pr1 shit yahoo listed sites to the discussion and I will bring hardcore search results that send real traffic, from a real search engine.

When the base of your link power is better off used to trade outbound links to get other sites to point to your important shit, you should be the last one to be critical or skeptical about one who understands and works his link power properly. Let alone call anyone an idiot.

Click through those sites and tell me how many you would actually link to. Would probably be a nice thing to let the people who pay you for links what kind of nightmare you are getting them into.

I don't think that the choice of link trading script makes someone an idiot.

unless you are a jealous troll who thinks that their free link trade script is better than someone elses' free link trade script.

as far as my clients, they end up with one way links.. example:
http://www.advertisingsex.com/500/1.jpg

it's called work.

~Ray

some good points there

These links are traded for search engine value correct?

Don't show me how many links it can get, I can get 1200 right here http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...%2findex%2ephp

The point is, they are fucking worthless.

I see the screenshot that shows links you got people... and I have to ask, what does it prove? Out of 500 sites less then 20% hold more then a pagerank 3, show me some sites that rank in the TOP 50 for their keywords.

You would think if you added your link on 500 differant domains you would hold every search term out there. Yet nobody has shown me a single long trail, low click search term yet.

Seriously, enough bullshit and talk, lets see some proof, far as I'm concerned anyone using the service that isn't worried is clueless.

Oh, not to mention not a single fucking linkex site in the serps.

Edit = For the record I have no affiliation with Thunder-Ball, I just think its the most worthy resource to put in my sig.

Did I mention that there isnt a single LinkEx site in the google serps?

Yeah I must have.

thunderball only works when their server is online. you are at their mercy and their server goes down often.

"Note 2008-04-26: Domain IP Functions are OFFLINE for a few days while we update "

you can stay on the thunder-ball tit all you want... and your knowledge of seo is laughable

linkex is on your own server, it's online when you are online.



~Ray

What you are saying only applies if you use the php or SSI include to run the script, I do not, nor do most of the people I know. They use it as a service to enhance and efficiently control and search out thousands of link trades, not to simplify or automate their efforts. And in my almost year using the service, I can honestly say I don't remember a time when there was any issues.

That Domain IP warning or message you posted didnt effect any links I have there, which is a large ammount. While many people with a clue have offered their opinions on linkex based on facts, there never seems to be any logical discussion about how it isnt detrimental. To me it just says the same thing about the users who use that script as all the other negatives.

Maybe you should answer some of the simple questions asked below like why no linkex sites rank for money terms in google? Or why you think that "links" is more important then search results that send paying clicks?

I know its easy for you to just jump and say, the servers are always down, and Jdoughs don't know shit about shit.

So prove me wrong, show me 1 site running stock linkex that is in the TOP 50 for its chosen search term.

You are defending something and are not able to show any type of results. There is THOUSANDS of domains running the script, surely there must be 1 success?

Seriously man, think about it.

Speaking of things you know nothing about is called ignorance.

When useing thunder-ball you still manage your links on your own server
i.e. add em manually or however yu choose todo so...

so your link trades are still up and running strong even if TBN goes down

"Note 2008-04-26: Domain IP Functions are OFFLINE for a few days while we update "
refered to the fact that the spider would not be checking your recips for you for a few days...

i.e. nothing todo with your trades being up and running...
they are your trades on your site which you and the
person you traded with setup manually or how ever
which way you decided to put em up.

I would suggest you atleast make an effort and learn about things before you open your mouth and sound foolish... (just some good advise, take it or leave it)

Good luck in the trade game

Comes up with 88 results when I clicked that...

Anyways, you guys do all realise that all of these scripts are TOOLS. Give a £5 Spade to a professional workman. Give the £100,000 JCB to your average Joe, and you watch who digs the biggest hole ;)

If you don't know fuck all about SEO then thunderball, linkex, whatever is only going to provide little SERP improvement, and in the case of where people do one big check every so often and remove a ton of outbound links all at once, it can even cause damage to SERPS.

All linkex outputs at the end of the day is raw <a href=......> tags. Just like thunderball does. To a search engine, there is no difference.

Agreed, thunderball promotes A-B-C linking much more than linkex, but once your in the thunderball network im sure the fucking genius' who develop algorithms at Google could crack that network while taking their morning shit.

Any link trading system/script that is "known", popular, or easily available (read all of these as easy as fuck to use) have a limited usefulness and lifespan.

Why do you think it seems like such hard work to email webmasters on a regular basis, and keep a huge fucking excel spreadsheet of all your trades? Because thats the only true way to run an effective SEO campaign.

SEO follows the same business model as anything else. If its easy, it will become oversaturated. As soon as it's oversaturated, the market competition will evolve (Google) and level the game.

So stop the bitching and put all the keyboard warrior energy into e-mailing other webmasters!

I use linkex to trade links with hundreds of webmasters each week. that's a big chore for a free script.. yet, I've never had a problem. It's just a shame that a competing free script has to resort to calling hundreds of fellow webmasters "idiots" to draw attention to their free script.

why would I use thunder-ball after seeing the classless webmasters who I would be helping? No thanks. linkex works just fine.

It does Not Matter What The Fukck you use to put links on your site.

It comes down to how the owner is running it... if they whore the site out on links... it becomes Shit.... and the links are worth shit.

LinkEx just does it the fastest as most noobs just leave their form wide open for it to fill up with SPAM. There is actually noting wrong with LinkEX ... it's the way people have it setup is the problem.

Thunder-Ball is a way to FIND People... Faster than a forum... and also a way to keep track of who is a consistantly a shitty link dropper.


My recomendation is Thunder-Ball ( Obviously ) combined with Link Organizer.



Search Any forum Anywhere... or Ask Anyone... And telll me... When have the Thunder-ball servers... EVER Been Down on Link Functions?????

The link functions are purposly run on on a separate Static area that does not depend on Database or any executable functions. If you are referring to individual people / trolls (whatever the fuck that that is supposed to mean).... then you are dealing with them anyway - regardless of if they are on linkEx, manually adding links... or whatever.



Show or tell me where Thunder-ball REQUIRES Members to use our code... "tit"??? Speak clearly so people can understand what your saying. Ahhh... but you dont even know what your saying according to my last 2 statments (servers down, requiring link codes)



You bitch about other people not knowing anything about SEO... Yet... look at your signature
Adding 500 1 way links from Any amount of C-Classes - IS A Fuckin Link Bomb... look it up genius.



That is exactly the way to Properly Use LinkEx. Moderate your shit... and your fine.


I think other posters have already Smoked you on that point.

But again... show me a single post where Thunder-ball has sent Anyones links down??? you CAN Get locked out by our security system... and their is the POSSIBILITY of a 5 minute reboot (like once every 2 months)... but link functions have NEVER had a Problem




No worries bro.... Your All Alone in your Views Anyway (just review this thread)



Because a lot of them drop their links a week later and your fucked out of your work.

And "Email" ???? OK ... send me a postcard while your at it.


"The ONLY WAY" ???????????????????????????

Is that why I can use Thunder-ball to take basically any 3 word term to 1st page in google in 45 days? or basically any 2 word term within 90 days?? Sure they go up and down in the top 30... But, the point is... OLD SChool methods... and YOUR Way.... are Not the only ways.




Again, what people are complaining about is the SpamFarm Traders... who incidentaly use LinkEx as their script of choice.


Thunder-Ball is to help you find people and see if they have a reputation for being an asshole link dropper. This is something a forum, email or spreadsheet can never do. Sure you can keep your own notes... but that leaves you isolated to your own experiences with other traders.

Its VERY Helpful to see if other people have had a problem with a person by checking their Thunder-ball Profile before you waset your time.


Bond

I prefer Linkex over thunder-ball and hundreds of other webmasters agree. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=740185


there's no denying that thunder-ball is dying out and that their webmasters are beginning to squirm.

~Ray

Bro/moron... just by loooking at page 1 see people that are on Thunder-ball so much... I know them by name(I'm not going to go trough and count). They Use LinkEx IN COMBINATION With Thunder-ball


See that guy CamChoice(Sven) with like 1 million fuckin domains ... hes on Thunder-ball ... like every fuckin day... Look
http://www.thunder-ball.net/TradeGat...fm?PAID=126983

And Neveena (the 2nd person to post) also on... like 4 times a day
http://www.thunder-ball.net/TradeGat...fm?PAID=127195


Last Login: Today - They Means They Fuckin Use IT (thunder-ball)



They Use LinkEx IN COMBINATION With Thunder-ball

It is NOT a Thunder-Ball over LinkEx or LinkEx Over Thunder-Ball situation.

It's a COMBINATION.... What The Fuck Dont You Get About That???




I guess thats why usage is up 25% just in the last month. There is a chart on the homepage... but my guess is you've never even been there



Considering how stupid you just made your self look with that link to a page full of thunder-ball members.... You are one of those people that are just going to argue no matter what.

Bond

I don't see any 10 page thunder-ball threads here. So, judging by that, I'd say Linkex is on the rise and thunder-ball users like you hate that. You hate to see any competition or threads like this wouldn't have begun.. and it's always the same 3 thunder-ball trolls attacking Linkex, so this is nothing new. I just choose to defend myself from being called an idiot from a webmaster who trades links with a different script. Who the fuck is he besides a hater troll?

I agree that they are both tools, like free hammers.. but you guys call us idiots for using a free hammer with a different brand. that makes you classless.

~Ray

Hey Buddy, I think theres something Im missing here, just my 2 cents, but no-one called you an idiot to start with, as a matter of fact go back to your first post in this thread...

you brought yourself into the mix by stateing (and I quote)

You choose to call thunderball users, loosers 1st, and then state that you where called an idiot...

That in its self says it all...

This thread was started in referrence to the linkex users that are mis-using / mis-manageing the linkex script...

If your not one of those ppl then why in the hell would you even take offense to it and feel you need to defend yourself...

Defend yourself against what ?

The way I see it, if your not one of the users that mis use linkex, then what are you even doing in this thread?

I mean, by stateing everything you stated about TBN, you, yourself come off as one of the so called "hater trolls" you are describing...

Do you not have anything better todo?

Anyway, as I said just my

wow another thunder-ball sig whore. imagine that.

did you read the title and 1st sentence of this thread?

V_RocKs

I laught at you linkex idiots

You people with your linkex scripts and 50 hits a day make me want to laugh my ass off.

he called anyone using the linkex script an idiot.

I use linkex instead of thunder-ball and took offense to being called an idiot. Maybe you are used to it? I don't know.

and it IS the same thunder-ball sig whore trolls attacking linkex users all the time... which makes them losers.

you can join them if you'd like... there's 2 more cents

~Ray

Hey Buddy, im just trying to racionalize / reason with you, and I wrote / responded to your post decently, without any disrespectful remarks so dont get stupid, this simply isn't my fight or yours...

your right, the title of the thread is "I laugh at you linkex idiots" and that is as I said, directed at the ppl mis-using linkex, (if your mis-using it you are an idiot, if not then your not) and unless you fall into that group, I as again, why get offended?

As far as the rest of your response , well, it seems your are just looking for some drama, and you dont have anything better todo, so I guess I've got my answer...

but as I said above, watch yourself dont get stupid, Im not the one you need to fuck with...

Treat me as with the same respect, curtesy and inteligence I show you, and well be fine, right now you and I have nothing against each other, so where cool,.. Lets keeps it that way...

Best wishes
Enjoy the rest of your day
Peeperpimp

" thunder-ball sig whore/Spam".......


OH Come ON.... I didn't even start this thread


But I can hear the replies after this already... "you started it when you started TBN" and on and on......


You know.... that brings up a good point. In the amount of time people have spent bitching in this thread.... imagine how many link trades you could have done... by Any Method of YOUR Choosing????



???

You STILL Don't Fuckin Get it..... We (Thunder-ball) dont give a Fuck if you use LinkEx. As I pointed out before... people use both at the same time. People are pissed at THE WAY people are using LinkEx.



People Using LinkEX does Absolutely NOTHING to hurt Thunder-ball.

I mean...

How many times do I have to say.... People Use them Both In combination at the same time??



Now your tangled up in your own shit.... you just contradicted what you said about "competition"...

Fuck man.... Just look at your fuckin avatar..... Acting Like that is exactly how you are acting in this thread.

.

you don't see linkex users starting threads calling thunder ball members idiots? don't some thunder ball members abuse your system?

you attacked everyone using linkex because it's in direct competition with your script and poses a serious risk to your monopolistic fantasies... not that everyone here didn't already see that.


my whole point was that all of you thunder ball trolls try and gang up on linkex supporters. you say you don't care who uses linkex, but you do and you have made threads stating so.

you are a scared loser afraid of losing webmasters to a free script that IMHO is way better than thunderball and is only going to get better.

If you don't care who uses linkex, why is your name in all the linkex hate threads? I know why.. because you are a tired linkex hating thunder ball sig whoring troll.

nail... meet hammer.

~Ray

WTF??? how is a Stand alone script.. in any sort of competition with a community of hundreds of webmasters?

It isn't, but this is apparently what the whole discussion has turned into.

Seems to be an issue with just talking facts.

Post that quote from you in the Main Forum here.... and see how people react to you.


Do it... and you can proove all your accusations and other shit you have thrown at me.



Bond

Well having had Linkex installed on my sites for the last year and a half theres been only 2 updates, both are fairly minor. I'm not advocating the use of one system over another, as I am using both, but why be a cheerleader for one system - that's like putting all your hard link eggs in one basket.

I would hate to see the developer of Linkex suddenly talk about a huge new exploit - you'll be eating your own words. Of course that argument can go either way.

I am still using linkex simply to add and manage hardlinks but I don't give out the link to the auto add page anymore. However, I started using Thunder-ball yesterday and so far I love it and I am definitely going to keep using it. My guess is you've never used it before but you should try it out. It's stupid not too really, you'll have all your linkex trades plus loads more... By the way is there any way to change how the links are output (say in a list format instead)?

Use the auto code located in "your url's" section individual autocodes for each one of your pages, more, output options / formats will be coming soon

Umm... With Linkex you have a ton of people abusing it by adding crap links to sites. So you own a domain and you have time on Tues and Weds to purge the crap people. Now google came in on Friday, Sat, Mon and saw you linking to these bad neighborhoods and penalized you for it. You delete the crap on Tues. Then they readd more crap on Fri and the cycle continues. Eventually Google drops you altogether.

Thunderball all trades must be approved. No one is abusing the system. I deny 80&#37; of the trades offered to me. Just like Linkex, if someone drops my link I get a notice and drop their link.

This isn't about hating on a script because I support ThunderBall... The majority of my trades are done without scripts at all... Just good ole Emailing the peeps I want to trade with.

Your attitude is one of somebody that knows there is a problem but does not want the problem fixed. Why? Because you actually get money from the problem existing. That is great. I live in America and I see it all the time with George Bush and Dick Cheney. Some people have no problem fucking the entire world over. You are one of those people.

No problem.

Keep dumping links for money and fucking over your trading partners. I am not one of them. I don't use a script that allows you to fuck me over. That doesn't mean you need to attack me just because I don't want to let you fuck me over.

I can only imagine what it must be like to be your love interest (or lust interest because I think you are incapable of love).

Point #2 on Advertising Sex...

The reason my trade threads begin with NO LINKEX isn't for the people using the script in manual add mode. It is for the 98&#37; that use it in auto-add mode.

Your sites don't seem to use it in auto-add so you really shouldn't even be a part of this discussion.

The discussion isn't about the script itself. It does its job well. The discussion is about the auto-add people out there fucking up shit with crap links mass spammed.

thunder-ball is a useful service. no matter if you use linkex or not you should use thunder-ball to find trade partners.
But to each its own. Instead of arguing about unimportant stuff you'd better manage your link trades better.

Rocky, hit me up if you wanna beta test a new teen on rhino's girls.

You quoted me as saying: thunderball only works when their server is online. you are at their mercy and their server goes down often.

Just for the record: I did not say this! (just trying to preserve my image) You must have accidently put it as I said it when you made the quote (don't know how) but I did not say that.

He should have had AdvertisingSex as the quote.

you did not specify in your original post.. instead, you called ALL linkex users "idiots". I use linkex, I got offended.

As far as love, well... "eat shit and suck your cock" probably doesn't draw in as many twinks as you need to validate yourself... or do you need to re-read your original post?

~Ray

automatic garbage is still garbage. you've gotta maintain quality (to a certain level at least) or you will sink hard. that said, it's easy to grow another site and experiment with different techniques and strategies. each day i'm trying new techniques, find out what works and what doesn't.

any serious webmaster is doing the same.

I don't understand why anyone would use just one tool to get a job done. I hardcode links, I use Linkex, I've used thunder-ball, and heck I even built something similar to thunder-ball. I started building it, and then discovered Thunder-ball...Call it bad research - I guess it was lol - but I didn't want all that work to go to waste, so I said whatever - just another free tool for webmasters to use in their arsenal.

It's like going after only toplist traffic to your site...there are a million different options for different streams of traffic, why not use as many as you can?

It all boils down to you. As others have said, regardless of how you get your links on your site - you decide what links go on your site. Whether it's linkex, thunderball, hardcoded, or linkbigger. You can't blame a tool for your decisions. It's like blaming a hammer because you missed the nail and hit your thumb lol

just my 2c