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  • theking
    Nice Kitty
    • Sep 2002
    • 21053
    #101
    Originally posted by Webby
    Nanda:



    Sure!! :-) Some immigration people have not the slightest clue about any passport!

    One of the weirdest stuff which ended up as a court case where I am was...

    Two US IRS agents visited here in relation to the possibility of getting a US citizen extradicted for some fraud case.

    When they were in front of a judge, the judge asked for their "credentials", authorisation papers and their passports.

    One question lead to another in court and it turns out these two people (a man and a woman), actually entered the country with false passports (duh?).

    They were then detained pending further enquiries where the police traced their movements, prior to the court hearing and turns out they also presented false documents to a couple of banks to open accounts - presumably for themselves, but under different names. This is a criminal offence here.

    So.. first shows that immigration people sometimes have not a clue :-)

    The end of the story was ... they were charged with "whatever" offences and given permission to leave the country, pending the main court case.

    Of course they left for the US and never set foot in this country again. There are still warrants out for their arrest here and they will be detained if they arrive here again.

    The press contacted.. think it was the woman when she was back in the US and she "offered" a comment along the lines "I never knew it was illegal" Duh?

    The judge eventually agreed to the extradiction of the US "perp" and he was flown by Lear jet back to the US to stand trial.

    So.. second point! :-) It shows you how amazingly stupid even IRS people can be when travelling abroad on govt biz and using false papers and committing offenses. I doubt they are working for the IRS now?
    Pig shit.
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      • Nanda
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 5310
        #102
        Originally posted by Webby

        So.. second point! :-) It shows you how amazingly stupid even IRS people can be when travelling abroad on govt biz and using false papers and committing offenses. I doubt they are working for the IRS now?
        True! Agree! Are you German?

        Originally posted by Joe Citizen
        Add Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders
        Really? Wow....
        My Ex-husband SKULL-BUITRE ran off to Colombia with OUR money and screwed me after I helped him build OUR business.
        He is hiding in Colombia and never paid the settlement $ from our divorce!

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          • Webby
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 14956
            #103
            theKing:

            Pig shit.
            Shutup troll - looks like you have the same intelligence as the two people I mentioned..

            Read your own press troll - it was even covered there are well as the press here..
            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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              • Webby
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 14956
                #104
                Nana:

                True! Agree! Are you German?
                Yep! 100% accurate! :-)

                There are plenty examples of this, but perhaps not as outrageous as that incident :-)

                I'm from the UK Nana.. but based in Costa Rica now. You?
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                  • Lee
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 2977
                    #105
                    Generally:

                    Florida: Full of drugs and guns
                    New York: Full of loudmouths
                    Deep South: Racists and African Americans (great accents though)
                    Texas: Think fucking JR Ewing & the preconception that the bigger the stetson the bigger the testicles
                    Midwest: Bible bashers that screw your arse whilst preaching a sermon
                    California: A mix of hot babes, sun worshippers & illegal hispanic immigrants
                    Wyoming: Full of survivalists
                    All the bits in the middle: Not that much personality.

                    American people that really piss me off: Ridiculous lawmakers and decision makers (ie patent office) that effect others.

                    TV Evangelists (The scum of the Earth)

                    Americans that dont piss me off: Loads to be honest and its 4am here and Im too fucking knackered to think of them, but there are loads.

                    Overall a thumbs up as there is good and bad in everyone but if I was to give a one line summary it would be "need to get out more".

                    From the UK

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                      • xclusive
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 35218
                        #106
                        America is the best country by far but our leaders have gotten way to arrogant dems and rebublicans,,Republicans are the worst though.... I love the USA

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                          • Joe Citizen
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4552
                            #107
                            Originally posted by Nanda
                            Really? Wow....
                            Wow?

                            Canada, New Zealand and Australia are part of the first world if you didn't know.

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                              • Joe Citizen
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4552
                                #108
                                Originally posted by xclusive
                                America is the best country by far
                                What criteria are you using as the basis for your opinion?

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                                  • Nanda
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 5310
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                    Nana:



                                    Yep! 100% accurate! :-)

                                    There are plenty examples of this, but perhaps not as outrageous as that incident :-)

                                    I'm from the UK Nana.. but based in Costa Rica now. You?
                                    I'm Colombian..in the states....Looking to Europe. (Although I like this country a lot, I enjoy Europe a lot.)

                                    Are you having a good time in Costa Rica?
                                    Hablas el idioma?
                                    My Ex-husband SKULL-BUITRE ran off to Colombia with OUR money and screwed me after I helped him build OUR business.
                                    He is hiding in Colombia and never paid the settlement $ from our divorce!

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                                      • rickholio
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 1914
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by theking
                                        While you are in great part correct...many others do not "cluster". My brother for example was stationed in Okinawa when in was in the Corp (he served in the Army as well as the Corp)...for a period of time and he and some of his friends toured a large portion of Japan. When I was in the Military and sent to another country...I toured as much as possible...as the opportunity arose (and of course I was not the only one that did so).
                                        This does, of course, happen. I'd suggest though that this more pure, genuine form of tourism is not as common as the head-down-to-mama-sans-for-a-bud type.

                                        Can your brother provide some reasonably objective number of, say, what percentage of his unit did that more touristy stuff? (I don't mean going straight from okinawa to roppongi either, that's basically just long-distance night clubbing!)
                                        ~

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                                          • rickholio
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 1914
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                            Nana:

                                            Yep! 100% accurate! :-)

                                            There are plenty examples of this, but perhaps not as outrageous as that incident :-)

                                            I'm from the UK Nana.. but based in Costa Rica now. You?
                                            How you like Costa Rica? We've been eyeing it as a vacation spot for a while now. I'd love to hear a local's perspective, particularly a immigre!
                                            ~

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                                              • Steen2
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 7662
                                                #112
                                                I like America and Americans but those who have that "superiority" thing really need to loss it (although they never will).

                                                And if I ever hear someone say "God bless America, and no place else" I will shoot them
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                                                  • Nanda
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 5310
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                    Wow?

                                                    Canada, New Zealand and Australia are part of the first world if you didn't know.
                                                    Wow! Thank you...here I thought they were in huts...running around naked.(sarcasm for those of you who think I am serious.) .....
                                                    Last edited by Nanda; 09-06-2004, 07:05 PM.
                                                    My Ex-husband SKULL-BUITRE ran off to Colombia with OUR money and screwed me after I helped him build OUR business.
                                                    He is hiding in Colombia and never paid the settlement $ from our divorce!

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                                                      • Webby
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 14956
                                                        #114
                                                        Lee:


                                                        TV Evangelists (The scum of the Earth)
                                                        My friend arrested one of them! It's still a source of smirking today.

                                                        Forget the name, but a "known" one who "ripped off" his "congregation". His ex-wife is still hovering around TV channels in the US now - that woman caked in makeup and jewellery... can't remember her name.

                                                        What was evident in the enquiry was the absurb level of hypocracy..
                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                          • Steen2
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 7662
                                                            #115
                                                            We all know the best countries on earth are:

                                                            Canada, UK, AU and NZ









                                                            Actually, that's just my view
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                                                              • theking
                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by rickholio
                                                                This does, of course, happen. I'd suggest though that this more pure, genuine form of tourism is not as common as the head-down-to-mama-sans-for-a-bud type.

                                                                Can your brother provide some reasonably objective number of, say, what percentage of his unit did that more touristy stuff? (I don't mean going straight from okinawa to roppongi either, that's basically just long-distance night clubbing!)
                                                                I have never asked him about percentages...but from my 12 years in service...I would guess no more than 30% tops...and it is more prevelant among the career/older types...as the nineteen year olds are all about getting drunk and/or getting laid. I was 22 when I entered the Army and had pretty much gotten that out of my system while attending JC. In fact I seldom even had a beer in my 12 years of service...but now I drink some cold brews virtually every day.
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                                                                  • Webby
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956
                                                                    #117
                                                                    rickholio:

                                                                    How you like Costa Rica? We've been eyeing it as a vacation spot for a while now. I'd love to hear a local's perspective, particularly a immigre!
                                                                    It's a good place Rick! It is just *very* different to Europe, US or I assume Canada. The climate is excellent tho there is a "rainy season" (but not much rain so far!).

                                                                    The people are very friendly - that ranges from officials (cops etc) to ... anyone! Nothing is a "big deal" and they will roll their sleeves up and get a "hands on" - really nice people.

                                                                    From a net angle... yea.. there is an appeal! There are no taxes as such for webmasters. The cost of living is.. pretty damned low:-)

                                                                    From a tourist side... to be safe and out of the rainy season, it's probably better here when it is winter in Canada. That is the "summertime" here. There is loads of place to see... ranging from eco-forests, volcanic areas to "paradise" beaches.

                                                                    So far, I think it's a nice place - especially for "quality of life"! :-)
                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                      • dready
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                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 5247
                                                                        #118
                                                                        People seem in general pretty cool... gov't is fucking out of control insane crazy fucked fascists.
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                                                                          • rickholio
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 1914
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by Webby

                                                                            My friend arrested one of them! It's still a source of smirking today.

                                                                            Forget the name, but a "known" one who "ripped off" his "congregation". His ex-wife is still hovering around TV channels in the US now - that woman caked in makeup and jewellery... can't remember her name.

                                                                            What was evident in the enquiry was the absurb level of hypocracy..
                                                                            Tammy Fay Baker?
                                                                            ~

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                                                                              • DaLord
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                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                • 3318
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                Unless you can prove me to be wrong...it is my understanding that many countries of the world are dependent upon American tourists for a significant part of their economy...thus Americans do visit many...if not all countries of the world. Not that I place the importance of visiting other countries as you apparently do.
                                                                                That has to be a very very very very tiny country then if they depend on american tourists.
                                                                                Only 25% got a passport in the US. By far not all of them travel every year.

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                                                                                  • Zerof8
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                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 1245
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    It seems to me that everyone else has taken the "TV" american as gospel and feel the need to bash america so that we will know we arent superior to them, then we feel the need to defend our country and fit right into that stereotype.
                                                                                    I love the USA. Who doesnt love thier country?
                                                                                    There is a lot wrong with it but there is also a lot to be proud of.

                                                                                    Most of the problem is the way our school system and media teach us. More americans do need to travel out side of the US.
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                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        rickholio:

                                                                                        Tammy Fay Baker?
                                                                                        AH! That's the name!!

                                                                                        Yea.. Jim Baker was the "perp" :-)

                                                                                        When he was "cuffed" - it was Tammy who did the weeping and "stand by your man" shit...

                                                                                        Then they found out within 14 days she was off with Jim's # 2!!
                                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                          • theking
                                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 21053
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by DaLord
                                                                                            That has to be a very very very very tiny country then if they depend on american tourists.
                                                                                            Only 25% got a passport in the US. By far not all of them travel every year.
                                                                                            "Significant" and "depend" are not synonymous.
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                                                                                              • BRISK
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                                • 12240
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                                America is the best country by far
                                                                                                There it is, that wonderful arrogance everybody loves so much.
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                                                                                                  • CamChicks
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                                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                                    • 1552
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                    I do not recall saying anything about a country falling apart...my point was that many countries on the earth have as a significant part of their GDP American tourist dollars...which indicates that Americans do travel abroad...in significant numbers.
                                                                                                    And I'm saying that's incorrect. If tourism makes up 5% of a countries GDP, yet only 1/5th of the tourists are American, then American tourists are contributing only 1% and that's insignificant.

                                                                                                    You must balance both sides of the equation. American tourists pour money into other countires, and foreign tourists also pour money into the USA. If everyone in the world stopped traveling outside their own country, the USA would lose the most income.

                                                                                                    And Americans are poorly travelled.
                                                                                                    What % of Americans have been out of north america? (Hawaii doesn't count) - versus the % of (for example) Australians who have visited the northen hemisphere? or Japanese who have visited the USA?

                                                                                                    The ignorance of most americans about life outside their homeland is sad; and a quality not shared by citizens of other wealthy nations whose news networks are much better about covering important events elsewhere. Public education here is a joke with regard to world history and global current events. Never once did any teacher even mention the conflict (and potential nuclear standoff) between India and Pakistan. Or the China/Taiwan dispute. Or the history of Israel and the Middle East. Forget the problems in Africa. Nah, none of that is as important as memorizing every date and detail of the Lewis & Clark Expedition.

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                                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Zerof8:

                                                                                                        I love the USA. Who doesnt love thier country?
                                                                                                        Frankly... in the context I think you may mean, I can't say "I love my country" any more than I like a load of countries.

                                                                                                        Almost every country has "baggage" and often, it sure ain't the govt that makes countries "appealing" :-)

                                                                                                        I'm not into what may be descibed as "blind patriotism" and "my country good or bad" - that is just.. plain stupid. If my country comes up with bullshit - I will give the same back. If it does good stuff - yea, give it credit.

                                                                                                        I'll support any country that conducts itself in an honorable manner - and blast utter crap that comes from some countries.

                                                                                                        Crap is "known" - it's not a "matter of opinion" else it would not be worth even mentioning it.
                                                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                          • rickholio
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                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                            • 1914
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                            AH! That's the name!!

                                                                                                            Yea.. Jim Baker was the "perp" :-)

                                                                                                            When he was "cuffed" - it was Tammy who did the weeping and "stand by your man" shit...

                                                                                                            Then they found out within 14 days she was off with Jim's # 2!!
                                                                                                            Hey bud, hit me up on ICQ: 4435025 when you have some time to chat. I'd love to pick your brain about an insiders view to Costa Rica. I've been reading up about it and it sounds pretty sweet!
                                                                                                            ~

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                                                                                                              • Steen2
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                                                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                • 7662
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Zerof8
                                                                                                                teach us. More americans do need to travel out side of the US.
                                                                                                                I agree with that 500%.

                                                                                                                That goes for everyone though. Too many ignorant people who only know about the culture, customs and country of their own area.
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                                                                                                                  • Ironhorse
                                                                                                                    Pixel Pusher
                                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                    • 7094
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                    theking:

                                                                                                                    It is not a "matter of course" that US people just travel where the fuck they like without a valid passport. They would be packed on the return flight back to the US - same as US immigration does.

                                                                                                                    Your comment that "Millions of Americans travel abroad without passports...and in the tens of millions have done so." is not valid.
                                                                                                                    Other nations do the same thing under agreements - this is not a "common practice" that puts US people above other countries laws.
                                                                                                                    Actually Americans can pretty much travel abroad at will, no passports needed. It's even an ammendment in the constitution, here's the link http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...abrams0002.jpg
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                                                                                                                      • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                        • 4552
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by CamChicks
                                                                                                                        And I'm saying that's incorrect. If tourism makes up 5% of a countries GDP, yet only 1/5th of the tourists are American, then American tourists are contributing only 1% and that's insignificant.

                                                                                                                        You must balance both sides of the equation. American tourists pour money into other countires, and foreign tourists also pour money into the USA. If everyone in the world stopped traveling outside their own country, the USA would lose the most income.

                                                                                                                        And Americans are poorly travelled.
                                                                                                                        What % of Americans have been out of north america? (Hawaii doesn't count) - versus the % of (for example) Australians who have visited the northen hemisphere? or Japanese who have visited the USA?

                                                                                                                        The ignorance of most americans about life outside their homeland is sad; and a quality not shared by citizens of other wealthy nations whose news networks are much better about covering important events elsewhere. Public education here is a joke with regard to world history and global current events. Never once did any teacher even mention the conflict (and potential nuclear standoff) between India and Pakistan. Or the China/Taiwan dispute. Or the history of Israel and the Middle East. Forget the problems in Africa. Nah, none of that is as important as memorizing every date and detail of the Lewis & Clark Expedition.
                                                                                                                        Great post!

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                                                                                                                          • PenisFace
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                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                            • 3774
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dready
                                                                                                                            People seem in general pretty cool... gov't is fucking out of control insane crazy fucked fascists.
                                                                                                                            50% of americas are nice people.. the other 50% I merely tolerate, because they support Bush. Even Bush supporters, however, are generally fine people, and I get along with them okay until the topic of politics comes up.

                                                                                                                            And I couldn't agree more about the government being fucking out of control insane crazy fucked fascists.
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                                                                                                                              • Webby
                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                • 14956
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Ironhorse:

                                                                                                                                Actually Americans can pretty much travel abroad at will, no passports needed.


                                                                                                                                Well yea... I noticed this "preffered method of travel" - they are "known" for it.

                                                                                                                                They are also known for a lot of killings before they leave/extradict/run from the "tourist areas".... Saigon, Somalia, Iraq, ad nausea....

                                                                                                                                It's a pity they never learn - with some tho, this is hard because they would never comprehend a lump of shit in the steet... so what hope?
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                                                                                                                                  • Living For Today
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                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 3970
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    I'm an Australian. I think american's can be at times egotistical and rude. They think they have authority over the rest of the world. I wish my country didn't have such an American influence.

                                                                                                                                    On the positive side there are a lot of good US bands ;)

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                                                                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        rickholio:


                                                                                                                                        Hey bud, hit me up on ICQ: 4435025 when you have some time to chat. I'd love to pick your brain about an insiders view to Costa Rica. I've been reading up about it and it sounds pretty sweet!
                                                                                                                                        OK Rick! Will do!
                                                                                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                                                          • austinth
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                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                            #135
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                                                                                                                                              • theking
                                                                                                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 21053
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by CamChicks
                                                                                                                                                And Americans are poorly travelled.
                                                                                                                                                What % of Americans have been out of north america? (Hawaii doesn't count) - versus the % of (for example) Australians who have visited the northen hemisphere? or Japanese who have visited the USA?
                                                                                                                                                I am not going to take the time to look up percentages...for any country...but the numbers of 20% and 25% have been presented in this thread as being the number of current passport holders in the US. If there are currently 20-25% that currently have passports then I would assume that there are a minimum of 20-25% that do not currently hold valid passports and the number that do not currently hold valid passports that once had valid passports could be much higher...but using the 20-25% that would mean that at least 40-50% have gone abroad using a passport and add to that the tens of millions that have gone abroad via the military without the use of a passport and given the size of the population...as I have stated...in raw numbers that would mean that somewhere around a 120 million or more Americans have travelled abroad if the 20-25% of currentl valid passports represents the total population (which it may or maynot).
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                                                                                                                                                  • Hands
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                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    I am Australian... My opinion of the USA, hmmmm. Well having not been there yet, I've got a complete outsider opinion. Like how your nation is portraid.

                                                                                                                                                    I think the USA is a fucking crazy, backward place, LOL. In every house there's 3 guns... 1 under the couch, one under the bed, and one in the booze cabinet. Americans come across as if they are ignorant of the rest of the world, like the whole world is based around them, LOL.
                                                                                                                                                    Why is it that your neighbor (Canada) had just as many guns (population:firearms) and there are 10 times less murders in Canada?? Well, that's what they tell us anyway, haha.

                                                                                                                                                    I think you're all trigger happy, and jump at any opportunity to use your weapons, or start a war. Haha. Your people are portraid as having no respect for anyone, like you all look down on the rest of the world, and are very poorly travelled, or are not interested in the other 95% of the planet.

                                                                                                                                                    I think that, your generally pretty cool people, very strange, but pretty cool. Like we see shows like Jerry Springer, and Rikki Lake, WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT!! Crazy Yanks, LOL

                                                                                                                                                    Your laws seem very fucked up to me, but I geuss it's strange to me coz I wasn't brought up with them. In saying that, I geuss our way of life is very strange to Americans too.

                                                                                                                                                    This all sounds bad huh, LOL. But hey, when I come over in February, I'll get to see your true colors, not what is portraid, hehe.

                                                                                                                                                    Hell, I'd love to know what the rest of the world thinks about the Ozzies, LOL..... Or maybe I don't, LOL

                                                                                                                                                    Truth be known, we (USA & Oz) are probably very similar...er... without the guns, LOL
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                                                                                                                                                      • CamChicks
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                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                        I am not going to take the time to look up percentages...for any country...but the numbers of 20% and 25% have been presented in this thread as being the number of current passport holders in the US. If there are currently 20-25% that currently have passports then I would assume that there are a minimum of 20-25% that do not currently hold valid passports and the number that do not currently hold valid passports that once had valid passports could be much higher...but using the 20-25% that would mean that at least 40-50% have gone abroad using a passport and add to that the tens of millions that have gone abroad via the military without the use of a passport ...
                                                                                                                                                        Wow. You seriously believe that 50% of Americans have been out of north america? Remember that a lot of americans think they need a passport to go to Hawaii. No ... most of those passports are obtained for trips to Canada and Mexico; whether or not they are necessary. I would be surprised if the actual number of Americans to leave north-america (excluding trips to US-owned islands) was higher than 15%.

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                                                                                                                                                          • Hands
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                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                            Unless you can prove me to be wrong...it is my understanding that many countries of the world are dependent upon American tourists for a significant part of their economy...thus Americans do visit many...if not all countries of the world. Not that I place the importance of visiting other countries as you apparently do.

                                                                                                                                                            You have great insight to other countries of the world as seen from your drugged mind from the window of your hostel.

                                                                                                                                                            Concidering that USA makes up about....... what... 2% of the world. I can clearly see how the other 98% of the globe totally relies on the USA, hahahaha... come on, look out the window, there's a big world out there.
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                                                                                                                                                              • Theo
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                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                my country over your country has become a boring debate that keeps appearing here all the time.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • toddler
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                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Some amazingly ignorant stereotypes in this thread. I see Hollywood has done well.

                                                                                                                                                                    Lived in the US 30 years now, and I'd be quite happy to leave. Especially given the current political climate.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                        toddler:

                                                                                                                                                                        Some amazingly ignorant stereotypes in this thread. I see Hollywood has done well.

                                                                                                                                                                        Lived in the US 30 years now, and I'd be quite happy to leave. Especially given the current political climate.
                                                                                                                                                                        It's the sterotypes that are the "killers" - so damned .. hell.. just so damned incredibly arrogant, ignorant and full of mouth. They would safely put any country to shame :-)

                                                                                                                                                                        I've never actually met anyone in the US who remotely resembled some of the idiots here. I think .. in fact... I know they would be ashamed of em!

                                                                                                                                                                        I know one lady from your State who would "just terminate" them, blow the smoke off the barrel and ask, who's next??
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                                                                                                                                                                          • codymc12
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                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Hm. I don't post a lot on GFY - but this is an interesting thread.

                                                                                                                                                                            I'm an American, and I've travelled all over the world. I've been to Canada, South America, Europe, India, The Netherlands, Japan, and other places. I'll give my 2 cents for what it's worth:

                                                                                                                                                                            People everywhere are pretty much the same. Most are essentially trying to live their lives, provide for themselves and their family, and do the right thing.

                                                                                                                                                                            Most people in the world are not 'well travelled'. This is not an American trait. Most people are born and die in the same place.

                                                                                                                                                                            And almost all free countries think they have the best deal going as a country, have national pride, and on some level, are convinced of their superiority. In America, we think we're the best. The Japanese think they are. The French think they are. Etc, etc. Nationalism and feeling superior to other countries in a free society is not an American trait - it's a human trait. Notice I say 'free countries' - in the old days of the Soviet Union, people defected. But in a free country, the average person has pride about and loyalty to their country.

                                                                                                                                                                            America has a long history of thinking other people's customs are silly and/or barbaric. But again - this is a human trait. Ever try to order a dish using bad French while in France with a snotty waiter? Or talk to a German about who makes the best cars? National elitisim is a common, and international, illness. And refusing to be compassionate about a foriegner not understanding your customs is most definately something we share with just about everyone else in the civilized world.

                                                                                                                                                                            The other trait shared by most human beings is believing what you see on Television or are fed by whoever your government happens to be. Someone said Canadians think Americans are idiots because that's the picture the media paints. Well - what do you think they see or hear over in Europe or other countries? The sheep are everywhere, and they're not sheep because they belong to a particular race or country - they're sheep because they're human, and the average human wants to belong and fit in with those around them.

                                                                                                                                                                            The only solution is to actually meet other people from other countries. You have no idea how many times when I travelled I'd get to know someone, and they said at some point something along the lines of 'you know, I thought all Americans were idiots, but you're a nice guy.' I'd say 'I thought the same, and feel the same' and then we'd find whatever the local version of debauchery was and forget about who was from where.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                codymc12:

                                                                                                                                                                                The only solution is to actually meet other people from other countries. You have no idea how many times when I travelled I'd get to know someone, and they said at some point something along the lines of 'you know, I thought all Americans were idiots, but you're a nice guy.' I'd say 'I thought the same, and feel the same' and then we'd find whatever the local version of debauchery was and forget about who was from where.
                                                                                                                                                                                Good post!

                                                                                                                                                                                You hit that nail right on the head with the above comments! :-)
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Steen2
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Hands
                                                                                                                                                                                    I am Australian... My opinion of the USA, hmmmm. Well having not been there yet, I've got a complete outsider opinion. Like how your nation is portraid.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think the USA is a fucking crazy, backward place, LOL. In every house there's 3 guns... 1 under the couch, one under the bed, and one in the booze cabinet. Americans come across as if they are ignorant of the rest of the world, like the whole world is based around them, LOL.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Why is it that your neighbor (Canada) had just as many guns (population:firearms) and there are 10 times less murders in Canada?? Well, that's what they tell us anyway, haha.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think you're all trigger happy, and jump at any opportunity to use your weapons, or start a war. Haha. Your people are portraid as having no respect for anyone, like you all look down on the rest of the world, and are very poorly travelled, or are not interested in the other 95% of the planet.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think that, your generally pretty cool people, very strange, but pretty cool. Like we see shows like Jerry Springer, and Rikki Lake, WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT!! Crazy Yanks, LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                    Your laws seem very fucked up to me, but I geuss it's strange to me coz I wasn't brought up with them. In saying that, I geuss our way of life is very strange to Americans too.

                                                                                                                                                                                    This all sounds bad huh, LOL. But hey, when I come over in February, I'll get to see your true colors, not what is portraid, hehe.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Hell, I'd love to know what the rest of the world thinks about the Ozzies, LOL..... Or maybe I don't, LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                    Truth be known, we (USA & Oz) are probably very similar...er... without the guns, LOL
                                                                                                                                                                                    First off, your grammar is something like a 14 year old.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Secondly I would like to look at this comment:

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Why is it that your neighbor (Canada) had just as many guns (population:firearms) and there are 10 times less murders in Canada?? Well, that's what they tell us anyway, haha
                                                                                                                                                                                    --

                                                                                                                                                                                    I didn't know we had the same ratio. I don't really know anyone with a gun here. Yet when I do go to the state and talk with many Americans, a lot seem to have firearms.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Hands
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                                                                                                                                                                                        codymc12... That was a quality post...
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • tapeworm206
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Ray,

                                                                                                                                                                                            Are we talking about americans, or New Yorker's, cuz anyone who doesn't like New Yorker's is just weird!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by codymc12
                                                                                                                                                                                                Hm. I don't post a lot on GFY - but this is an interesting thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm an American, and I've travelled all over the world. I've been to Canada, South America, Europe, India, The Netherlands, Japan, and other places. I'll give my 2 cents for what it's worth:

                                                                                                                                                                                                People everywhere are pretty much the same. Most are essentially trying to live their lives, provide for themselves and their family, and do the right thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Most people in the world are not 'well travelled'. This is not an American trait. Most people are born and die in the same place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                And almost all free countries think they have the best deal going as a country, have national pride, and on some level, are convinced of their superiority. In America, we think we're the best. The Japanese think they are. The French think they are. Etc, etc. Nationalism and feeling superior to other countries in a free society is not an American trait - it's a human trait. Notice I say 'free countries' - in the old days of the Soviet Union, people defected. But in a free country, the average person has pride about and loyalty to their country.

                                                                                                                                                                                                America has a long history of thinking other people's customs are silly and/or barbaric. But again - this is a human trait. Ever try to order a dish using bad French while in France with a snotty waiter? Or talk to a German about who makes the best cars? National elitisim is a common, and international, illness. And refusing to be compassionate about a foriegner not understanding your customs is most definately something we share with just about everyone else in the civilized world.

                                                                                                                                                                                                The other trait shared by most human beings is believing what you see on Television or are fed by whoever your government happens to be. Someone said Canadians think Americans are idiots because that's the picture the media paints. Well - what do you think they see or hear over in Europe or other countries? The sheep are everywhere, and they're not sheep because they belong to a particular race or country - they're sheep because they're human, and the average human wants to belong and fit in with those around them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                The only solution is to actually meet other people from other countries. You have no idea how many times when I travelled I'd get to know someone, and they said at some point something along the lines of 'you know, I thought all Americans were idiots, but you're a nice guy.' I'd say 'I thought the same, and feel the same' and then we'd find whatever the local version of debauchery was and forget about who was from where.
                                                                                                                                                                                                How did you travel? Did you go backpacking?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • rickholio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by codymc12
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree with most of what you've said, however I must take exception to this:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Someone said Canadians think Americans are idiots because that's the picture the media paints...
                                                                                                                                                                                                    We, as a whole, do not think you're idiots because of the media. We think you're ignorant because you drive your SUVs north in July with snowboards and skis attached to your roof-racks. We think you're idiots when you do that, while keeping a loaded .40s+w in the glove box while attempting to drive north.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Edit: It also doesn't help when you get gas at a little place just outside of Chicago, and when you mention that you're from Canada, the guy behind the counter asks "Canada? Is that up there by Alaskar?" My theory is that this guy was a recent arrival to the tri-state area.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Hands
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                                                                                                                                                        First off, your grammar is something like a 14 year old.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Secondly I would like to look at this comment:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Why is it that your neighbor (Canada) had just as many guns (population:firearms) and there are 10 times less murders in Canada?? Well, that's what they tell us anyway, haha
                                                                                                                                                                                                        --

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I didn't know we had the same ratio. I don't really know anyone with a gun here. Yet when I do go to the state and talk with many Americans, a lot seem to have firearms.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's what I said "a lot seem to have firearms"!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, I have bad grammar, but you can't read, cock! This thread asked for opinions from outsiders. I'm an outsider and I told how USA is portrayed to us in our country.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Are you an English teacher or something? Either that or you spend time chatting up 14 year olds... Either way I didn't realize I would be graded on this 'essay'... Here is some grammar for ya, GET......FUKT!
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