Does anyone care? 335 victims, mostly children

I care also, that is very sad to see. Kids are so innocent and most of them probably don't know what is going on.

50 caring people

that site is legit
i saw it on the news

exactly.
you would expect him to not to reply on this matter, but he insist playing that spain has learned to fight terrorism for years, just like the hypocrite, Javier Solana

UNICEF has been on the news before, does not mean it is legit

Most of us europeans feel the same way you do. But unfortunately we have idiots like Berlusconi who are makeing us all look bad.

Very true, got a point there.

I'm not an American citizen but from my Israeli point of view I support Bush, as do the majority of the Israeli population I believe.

I care mate,
It is very much said what happened there and happens in the world at all with all the terror attacks against innocent children from the religious fanatics....

I find it amusing to say the least that people in countries like Russia, France, and Spain criticize US foreign policy at every turn, yet when horrible tragedy strikes their country the first country they cry for help to is.... guess who?

I care, we in slovenia put candles on our windows yesterday...

Russia and Spain can't be put in the same category if you're speaking about their anti terorrism policy.

As for donating to the cause in Russia, how can I trust that my money will actually go towards helping the families involved rather than in some scammer's pocket?

That's the biggest barrier as to why people over here won't donate money.

I'm talking about people living in those countries, not the countries themselves.

I was pretty clear on that.

Spain should kiss US's feet for giving them any sort of aid after they betrayed them by withdrawing their forces from Iraq (as a direct result of the al qayeda attack)

we all care..

Well i think this wont be true for russia..

The oil part was low, but business development for US companies is a main reason the US went into Iraq; because they could make money back for the cost of going there.

I really don't know about the politics that arised from the USSR area so I can't comment, but Bush says he wants to rid the world of terrorism, or at least make it seen that it's not acceptable, so why hasn't he been gun-ho, publically, about going after everyone slightly connected to the 335 victims, mostly children, killed?

Matt

I think the chances are pretty slim, to say the least

ummmm, just because it doesn't hit the newspapers does not mean help is not offered.

You may have read in your history books (presuming you actually went to school, and that your history books are not all slanted against the US) that the US and USSR were involved in this thing we used to call the Cold War.

Even so, when the Russians would lose a submarine at the bottom of the ocean, we would offer to help them retrieve it. "No thanks" was always the response.

While the Cold War has ended, it is still a pretty safe bet that Russia does not want US troops within their borders, fighting the Chechens for them. . . . besides, if we did the rest of the world would just call us imperialists anyway.

We can do no right.

You're such a stupid prick without a clue...
The spanish people got betrayed by their own conservative government that kissed Bush's ass to participate in a senseless war over lies even though over 90% of the spanish knew the war in Iraq had nothing to do with the war against terrorism (there was no terrorism in Iraq, not ties to it, nor WMD).

Socialists told from the start of the war about these lies that they would pull out spanish troops out of Iraq and place them in Afghanistan as they didn't want to become part of an imperialist invasion over oil resources.
Then the attacks happened, the conservatives tried to control the media so that the could lie again by claiming for days that ETA and only ETA was responsible for the attacks. They disrespected not only the victims but the entire people of spain to save their own ass.

When it became clear that the ruling conservatives were witholding information from the public for their own electoral purposes, people took to the streets and with a record turnout they voted a lying government out of power. That's democracy. Perhaps something that should also be considered in the US, but unfortunately Americans are too easy to brainwash.

Now spanish troops move to Afghanistan, do you think Osama is happy with that?

Heard of all that before. And no, the textbooks we had when I was in school were slightly outdated and broad of what they taught. That would of been Grade 9 history though too..

Matt

who did all the beheadings? soldiers of the iraqi army?
the war on iraq also had a determent effect on other radical islamic countries...

Exactly my point. There was no terrorism in Iraq until the clumsy US invasion. Now the US handed over an entire country to terrorism and doesn't have a clue how to fight it but apparently only how to fuel it.

Very sad. Children should never be targets.

With that said... Russia should now attack Iran or some other shit hole in the middle east that had nothing to do with it. It would get them major respect throughout the world and lots of allies. Just look what it did for the US.

lol, so the US created terrorists in Iraq?

boy, you are naive beyond believe, just like most of your country...

pretty sad that a thread like this turns into an arguement about politics..

Since we saw 9/11 on tv for weeks on end here are some pictures

damn man that is horrible

i am sure he didn't mean to make ur blood boil. That's all about emotions...

BTW Russians did make donations on 9/11

warlock5:

Not only is it just sad - it is so fucking pathetic what all folks have to bother their asses with is some shit about US political parties.

As far as "caring" is concerned - yes, others care. Tho so few have no idea what it means and are "limited" to comparisons within their own countries and steeped in predjuices and crap that often are totally irrelevant to the real world.

The US had the world's attention on 9/11 and a load of support (tho was fucked up by the idiot there), - now Russia is getting the same. Folks had an eye on Florida and waiting to see - that turned up better than it "could" have been.

On the flip side of the coin, we had a hurricane a short time back in Guatamala that killed far more than all of those killed on 9/11, Russia and Florida recently. This had a death toll of 12,000 - who cared then? That got a two column comment on the back page of US media - if that.

There are around 250,000 starving to death in Sudan, with a load more on the way. I can't see all "noble" nations rushing to help. Same as they never lifted one sodding finger re Rwanda when repeatedly requested for action by the UN. (Don't bother blaming the UN for being "ineffective" - these nations "are" the UN).

I also don't recall outpourings of "sympathy" while bodies were being pulled out of the sea, after having been washed down from the countryside during a hurricane in Venezula.

The list is endless...

People "care" about what they want to care about - and often actually "do" nothing. It's the same with governments.

There are people that "matter" on this planet and people who don't - usually the "non people" from the third world. This is a choice the "better off" and questionably "civilized" world makes.

Here we got a thread, talking total shit about other countries - ie Spain etc and in some stupid "contest" over my dick is bigger. Also a load of irrelevant shit about US politics and the usual Israel diatribe.

Let's just say the level of "caring" does not amount to much. It's all "talk" and little substance.

Interesting comment. Many of what the US calls terrorists aren't even terrorists but they are resistance protecting their country from foreign occupiers.

Fact is that during Saddam islamic terrorism was non-existent in Iraq.
The US invasion not only turned Iraq into an easy victim for islamic terrorism but also incited islamic terrorism globally.

A good example of really bad policy but I guess we all see the consequences on the news every day...

Wish those fucking terrorists had grilled the fucking real ass of yours or the kid of yours so you could have a clue of how good does it feels

Fuck you