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  • bgraham
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 9

    #1

    TripleXCash.com has shaved my sales

    Dear fellow webmasters:

    I run several adult websites and until recently, adverised many of TripleXCash websites. When I noticed that I was never generating any sales for them I did a ghost test by signing myself. And to my amazement, my sale did not register. After contacting them they admitted that there was a problem and they later 'manually' credited my sale.

    I then felt that I needed to test them further so I advertised on my sites that I would give surfers FREE access to my galleries if they signed up for one of the advertised sites if the surfer provides me with the username and password for verification of their signup. I received three emails notifying me of signups to a TripleXCash site but sill no sales registered. When I verified that each username and password was indeed valid I again contacted Roseanne at TripleXCash and was told those usernames were invalid. Now they are completely ignoring me.

    I posted basically this same message on their discussion board but somehow the thread dissappeared and can you believe that they deleted my login?

    So, as a webmaster you should 'test' your affiliate programs to ensure thay are crediting your sales as promised. TripleXCash has breached their own contract and my message to them is that if this issue is not resolved promptly I shall take them to small claims court to recover lost revenue. There is no reason why this should have happened. Now, as far as I'm concerned they cannot be trusted.

    I received a telephone call earlier today from a nice gentlemen who tod me that my thread on their board caught his attention because up until recently, his conversion ratio with TripleXCash was something like 1:150 but recently it has dropped to approximately 1:975 so maybe he is having a problem to and was glad to find out about this and that he sall be conducting a test or two also. He also agrees that we are not in the business of providing free advertising.

    Thanks for listening. Feel free to contact me at 559-288-4131 if you think you have been cheated to. Thank you.

    Robert Graham
    adult-media.net
  • fris
    I have to go potty
    • Aug 2002
    • 55807

    #2
    weird never had any problem with triplexcash my ratio with little april has been always low.

    thanks for bringing this up
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    • swoop
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 3903

      #3
      How much was the lost revenue?
      Earn 50 % Per Sale - Weekly Payments by check, wire, PayPal, or ePassporte

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      • egonetworks
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 6706

        #4
        popcorn

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        • johndoebob
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2004
          • 3405

          #5
          Never made any money with them neither the webmaster who signed up under im ref id.I stopped promoting them in any way a while ago.

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          • Dawgy
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 5856

            #6
            so what other programs have you defrauded by joining the sites under your own referral code?
            the revolution is coming.

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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #7
              The user agreement you signed agrees you cannot create false sales ( i.e. signing up yourself ).

              Additionally in asking your users for password's you also broke another of the rules.

              Besides all that, the story does sound strange to say the least. And i do think that test signups ( with notification within 48 hrs ) should be the norm in this industry.. so i do understand your "test"

              Would appreciate a triplexcash response.
              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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              • AaronM
                GFY Royality ;)
                • Oct 2001
                • 46917

                #8
                bgraham
                Sep 2004
                Posts: 1


                If you have any solid proof of shaving...Post it. Otherwise...STFU.

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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46917

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dawgy
                  so what other programs have you defrauded by joining the sites under your own referral code?
                  Oops.

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                  • detoxed
                    vip member
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 17798

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dawgy
                    so what other programs have you defrauded by joining the sites under your own referral code?
                    How did he defraud them if the sale never counted under his affiliate code? He didnt get paid anything for it...

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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AaronM
                      bgraham
                      Sep 2004
                      Posts: 1


                      If you have any solid proof of shaving...Post it. Otherwise...STFU.
                      from what i have read he gave a pretty clear detailed account of what happened.

                      There is no such thing as ironclad proof.

                      He could be a tad more detailed though..

                      besides the onus is on the sponsor in my view, to state what happened.

                      i.e. tell us what webmaster recieved credit for his test signup.
                      i.e. tell us why this webmaster did not recieve his credit
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                      • AaronM
                        GFY Royality ;)
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 46917

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                        from what i have read he gave a pretty clear detailed account of what happened.

                        There is no such thing as ironclad proof.

                        He could be a tad more detailed though..

                        besides the onus is on the sponsor in my view, to state what happened.

                        i.e. tell us what webmaster recieved credit for his test signup.
                        i.e. tell us why this webmaster did not recieve his credit
                        No such thing as ironclad proof huh?

                        Does PIBCash ring any bells?

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                        • SmokeyTheBear
                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #13
                          Originally posted by detoxed
                          How did he defraud them if the sale never counted under his affiliate code? He didnt get paid anything for it...
                          no he is right. It is fraud because he attempted to signup under his own ref code.

                          But he also notified the sponsor the next day.

                          Im not suggesting anyone do this as you will most likely be axed.

                          Best idea is to ask the sponsor to allow a test signup as long as you notify them within 48 hours of the test signup.
                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                          • JSA Matt
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5464

                            #14
                            quick, everyone take sides

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                            • SmokeyTheBear
                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 28609

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AaronM
                              No such thing as ironclad proof huh?

                              Does PIBCash ring any bells?
                              Okay so sometimes there are exeptions to the rule

                              But seriously even then , i never saw IRONCLAD proof , i saw a bunch of pictures that may or may not have been modified.

                              The overwhelming amount of evidence in that scenario made it "guilty beyond a resonable doubt"
                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                If I believe a sponsor shaves me I'll have my friends do test signups without asking.

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                                • detoxed
                                  vip member
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 17798

                                  #17
                                  Anyone want to buy some prepaid debit cards in any name you choose in order to do some test signups? LOL

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                                  • EscortBiz
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                                    • May 2002
                                    • 19422

                                    #18
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                                    • PatrickKing
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 2096

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                      quick, everyone take sides
                                      I like to be neutral about situations that don't involve me.
                                      I will be the impartial observer
                                      [email protected]

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                                      • AaronM
                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 46917

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                        Okay so sometimes there are exeptions to the rule

                                        But seriously even then , i never saw IRONCLAD proof , i saw a bunch of pictures that may or may not have been modified.

                                        The overwhelming amount of evidence in that scenario made it "guilty beyond a resonable doubt"

                                        I guess you missed the thread with links directly into their admin area where people were adjusting all sorts of nifty things.

                                        I have over 36 megs of hard core proof about their shaving and non-payments...Which continues to this very day......

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                                        • Theo
                                          HAL 9000
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 34515

                                          #21
                                          also check if you have cookies enabled or not, there are different levels of cookies at IE.

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                                          • AaronM
                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 46917

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PatrickKing
                                            I like to be neutral about situations that don't involve me.
                                            I will be the impartial observer

                                            Back in my day.....That was called being a pussy.

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                                            • johndoebob
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 3405

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by AaronM
                                              No such thing as ironclad proof huh?

                                              Does PIBCash ring any bells?
                                              Not everybody is able to get logins to admin panels to make screenshots

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                                              • JSA Matt
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 5464

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                Okay so sometimes there are exeptions to the rule

                                                But seriously even then , i never saw IRONCLAD proof , i saw a bunch of pictures that may or may not have been modified.

                                                The overwhelming amount of evidence in that scenario made it "guilty beyond a resonable doubt"
                                                You missed a bunch dude, I was in their admin and saw their webmaster database and everything.

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                                                • hydro
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 4216

                                                  #25

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                                                  • stevecore
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 6130

                                                    #26
                                                    Signups were good yesterday, today they have trailed off a bit (1:307).

                                                    Yes they have MPA2 set up so there is a possibility, but any program can add a shave. MPA2 does not deter me from promoting them from time to time.

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                                                    • JSA Matt
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 5464

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AaronM
                                                      Back in my day.....That was called being a pussy.
                                                      or french

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                                                      • BradM
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 3397

                                                        #28
                                                        Aaron, how can an affiliate have "ironclad proof" of shaving? He doesnt have access to the programming or to the backend or to the database.

                                                        Sometimes you should think before you speak.
                                                        Oh and I am fully expecting some sort of "YOU should think before you speak" comment from you.

                                                        I don't think someone should come to the boards yelling "shavers" without some sort of proof but hey sometimes thye don't have any.
                                                        PERSONALLY I wouldn't say anything unless I knew for fact.

                                                        But he is being ignored by support staff, account deleted etc. It doesn't sound great but there are two sides to EVERY story.
                                                        Without any sort of proof I don't believe him either.

                                                        But bottom line is how can he have any absolute proof?

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                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 28609

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                                          You missed a bunch dude, I was in their admin and saw their webmaster database and everything.
                                                          okay okay already im not defending either pibcash or triplexcash despite what my sig says.

                                                          pibcash was an exeption to the rule.

                                                          If thats what it takes to proove a cheating sponsor then let the shaving begin..

                                                          If triplexcash is not doing anything wrong then this thread is only good avertising.

                                                          If it is not , then its a good heads up.
                                                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                          • JSA Matt
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 5464

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                            If triplexcash is not doing anything wrong then this thread is only good avertising.

                                                            If it is not , then its a good heads up.
                                                            this thread will only allow people to draw their own conclusions and do their own tests

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                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 28609

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BradM
                                                              Aaron, how can an affiliate have "ironclad proof" of shaving? He doesnt have access to the programming or to the backend or to the database.

                                                              Sometimes you should think before you speak.
                                                              Oh and I am fully expecting some sort of "YOU should think before you speak" comment from you.

                                                              I don't think someone should come to the boards yelling "shavers" without some sort of proof but hey sometimes thye don't have any.
                                                              PERSONALLY I wouldn't say anything unless I knew for fact.

                                                              But he is being ignored by support staff, account deleted etc. It doesn't sound great but there are two sides to EVERY story.
                                                              Without any sort of proof I don't believe him either.

                                                              But bottom line is how can he have any absolute proof?
                                                              exactly.

                                                              The guy merely stated a claim , that can be easily refuted and proved ( by triplexcash not by the affiliate as he has no access to the backend )

                                                              How would you ( aaron) suggest he go about obtaining proof ?
                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                              • egonetworks
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 6706

                                                                #32
                                                                Someone believes that a sponsor might be shaving - and posts the begining of proof, just needs confirmation now; and GFY jumps on him for breaking rules? Wow. Simply wow.

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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 28609

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                                                  this thread will only allow people to draw their own conclusions and do their own tests
                                                                  hopefully most webmaster have enough not to do a test signup that may invalidate their account and lose their revenue.

                                                                  I would hope that most sponsors allow a 48 hour notification of a test signup ( not prior notification as this doesn't accomplish anything )
                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                  • andrej_NDC
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                    • 7760

                                                                    #34


                                                                    I will pull all my links right now, thx for the tip.

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                                                                    • TheWildcard
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                      • 4759

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by hydro

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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 28609

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by egonetworks
                                                                        Someone believes that a sponsor might be shaving - and posts the begining of proof, just needs confirmation now; and GFY jumps on him for breaking rules? Wow. Simply wow.
                                                                        endless test signups mean lower payouts. so i think its understandable that people might be a bit upset about this. But until the adult sponsor industry has some STANDARDS for which to test a sponsor, this seems to be the only way.
                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                        • Theo
                                                                          HAL 9000
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 34515

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                          hopefully most webmaster have enough not to do a test signup that may invalidate their account and lose their revenue.

                                                                          somehow your reply surprises me....

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                                                                          • AaronM
                                                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 46917

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by BradM
                                                                            Aaron, how can an affiliate have "ironclad proof" of shaving? He doesnt have access to the programming or to the backend or to the database.

                                                                            Sometimes you should think before you speak.
                                                                            Oh and I am fully expecting some sort of "YOU should think before you speak" comment from you.

                                                                            I don't think someone should come to the boards yelling "shavers" without some sort of proof but hey sometimes thye don't have any.
                                                                            PERSONALLY I wouldn't say anything unless I knew for fact.

                                                                            But he is being ignored by support staff, account deleted etc. It doesn't sound great but there are two sides to EVERY story.
                                                                            Without any sort of proof I don't believe him either.

                                                                            But bottom line is how can he have any absolute proof?

                                                                            You're 100% correct....So...If he does not have absolute proof then perhaps he should STFU rather than risk a lawsuit.

                                                                            "Oh and I am fully expecting some sort of "YOU should think before you speak" comment from you."

                                                                            Whatever you say......You know fuck all of what to expect out of me.

                                                                            Brad...You are a nice guy...but you are pretty ignorant on the boards. I personally think it is a sign of lack of maturity and that you will grow out of it. I see potential in you once you are able to see the big picture.

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                                                                            • BradM
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                              • 3397

                                                                              #39
                                                                              *shrug* I am not arguing anything here I am merely stating my opinion.

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                                                                              • stevecore
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 6130

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC


                                                                                I will pull all my links right now, thx for the tip.
                                                                                Andrej, could you contact me on ICQ... got a quick question for you. Thanks.

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                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 28609

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                  somehow your reply surprises me....
                                                                                  theres a right way to do things , and there is a wrong way to do things..
                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 46917

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    How would you ( aaron) suggest he go about obtaining proof ?
                                                                                    I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


                                                                                    It's really quite simple.

                                                                                    If you can prove it....Go for it.

                                                                                    Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

                                                                                    No.

                                                                                    Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment

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                                                                                    • egonetworks
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 6706

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                      endless test signups mean lower payouts. so i think its understandable that people might be a bit upset about this. But until the adult sponsor industry has some STANDARDS for which to test a sponsor, this seems to be the only way.
                                                                                      If your intent is to defraud the sponsor with "test signups" - then yes, you should rot in hell. However, he brought it to their attention and it was only used to see if they truely were shaving.

                                                                                      I don't think there's anything wrong with busting a shaver - if *** really is shaving - I can't decide that one.

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                                                                                      • johndoebob
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 3405

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Well he has a proof for himself but not for you.

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                                                                                        • egonetworks
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                          • 6706

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                          I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


                                                                                          It's really quite simple.

                                                                                          If you can prove it....Go for it.

                                                                                          Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

                                                                                          No.

                                                                                          Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment
                                                                                          He has documented signups that weren't creditted to him - he has the URLs they used - he has his ref code; if he can post those, what more proof do you want? A sworn statement by *** that they are shaving his account?

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                                                                                          • newbreed
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 9898

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                            I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


                                                                                            It's really quite simple.

                                                                                            If you can prove it....Go for it.

                                                                                            Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

                                                                                            No.

                                                                                            Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment
                                                                                            Accept this is not a court, and he does have some (circumstantial, but some) evidence.

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                                                                                            • andrej_NDC
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                              • 7760

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by stevecore
                                                                                              Andrej, could you contact me on ICQ... got a quick question for you. Thanks.
                                                                                              just hitting you up...

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                                                                                              • johndoebob
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 3405

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


                                                                                                It's really quite simple.

                                                                                                If you can prove it....Go for it.

                                                                                                Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

                                                                                                No.

                                                                                                Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment
                                                                                                He doesn't have a proof to show here on the board but when his account wouldn't be deleted he'd have a proof in court, BUT a sponsor can always tell "system failure we're sorry but it wasn't our fault", now proof something different.

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                                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 28609

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                  I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


                                                                                                  It's really quite simple.

                                                                                                  If you can prove it....Go for it.

                                                                                                  Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

                                                                                                  No.

                                                                                                  Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment
                                                                                                  I have been in the courts for years. There is no such thing as ironclad proof ( see o.j. trial )

                                                                                                  I don't think the guy should have stated "SHAVED" he should have merely stated the facts and asked for an explanation if he felt the sponsor was dicking him around.

                                                                                                  So far i see no SHAVE or PROOF of shave either, i merely see a bunch of facts. Easily answered by the sponsor.
                                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 46917

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by egonetworks
                                                                                                    what more proof do you want? A sworn statement by *** that they are shaving his account?

                                                                                                    That would be pretty solid proof.


                                                                                                    And Officer newbreed.....

                                                                                                    GFY is a court of sorts. Perhaps not a legal one but people are tried and convicted on these very pages every day.

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