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  • SuckOnThis
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 6844

    #1

    Vonage is turning into the AOL of VOIP

    I called to cancel my service with them today and it was like trying to cancel AOL. Sat on hold for a half hour, then after being transferred to 3 different people I had to listen for 20 minutes to some dickwad trying to convince me to stay with them, the fucker just wouldnt take no for an answer. So finally after threatening to chargeback any future Vonage charges he cancels it. Now I just got an email from them telling me I have 14 days to return my equipment or I will be charged $39.95 for a disconnect fee. I purchased my adapter from Best Buy and now they want me to return it to them? They are one fucked up company.
  • Mike Semen
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 2924

    #2
    oh dear. First bad review I've heard of them...
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    • ronaldo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 5475

      #3
      Originally posted by Mike Semen
      oh dear. First bad review I've heard of them...
      I like the product, but their service is pretty bad.

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      • WiredGuy
        Pounding Googlebot
        • Aug 2002
        • 34512

        #4
        Until they start mailing you hundreds of CD's of free internet, they're not yet an AOL
        WG
        I play with Google.

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        • RogerV
          Banned!
          • Jul 2002
          • 12591

          #5
          So far they work great for me as an extra line

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          • Harmon
            ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
            • Mar 2004
            • 20012

            #6
            I use my cable company's service... it's completely unlimited inside the US kicks ass for an extra $39.95 a month on my cable bill
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            • SuckOnThis
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 6844

              #7
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              Until they start mailing you hundreds of CD's of free internet, they're not yet an AOL
              WG


              True

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              • Furious_Female
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 8187

                #8
                Watch AOL buy them out and this is just a preview of things to come
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                • Mike Semen
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 2924

                  #9
                  Last count it was either them or skype signing up 19k new customers a month...
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                  • the alchemist
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3271

                    #10
                    I got an email from them yesterday telling me I was using too much of my "unlimited" plan @ 39.99, and they want me to switch to "call center" plan @ 99.99 for 5000 minutes + 0.025 per overage... sighs
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                    • Mike Semen
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 2924

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vivency
                      I got an email from them yesterday telling me I was using too much of my "unlimited" plan @ 39.99, and they want me to switch to "call center" plan @ 99.99 for 5000 minutes + 0.025 per overage... sighs
                      wow. that's pretty damn unlimited.
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                      • Mr Dickovitch
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1070

                        #12
                        Half the time when I make a call it has a fast busy signal, Vonage is a piece of shit.

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Harmon
                          I use my cable company's service... it's completely unlimited inside the US kicks ass for an extra $39.95 a month on my cable bill
                          fuck, that is expensive...we have $24 a month unlimited with vonage, works perfect 99% of the time...extra #'s in 3 major cities for $4 each

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                          • sextoyking
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 6034

                            #14
                            We have bee using packet8.com for a few years now and never a problem.

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                            • Gottis
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2004
                              • 1746

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                              Until they start mailing you hundreds of CD's of free internet, they're not yet an AOL
                              WG
                              Free Internet, gimme gimme!!!
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                              • After Shock Media
                                It's coming look busy
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 35299

                                #16
                                I really do not understand the VOIP stuff for domestic usage. Maybe someone can explain it all to me and why it is better.

                                Currently this is what I have through SBC
                                Unlimted US calling.
                                Caller ID, Call Waiting, Call Waiting ID, Three Way calling, Caller ID selective blocking, Wirepro and an unlisted number for 22.23 +4.41 in taxes (26.64)
                                It also gets me .01 a minute to Canada, and .03 a minute to the philipines.

                                [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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                                • SuckOnThis
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 6844

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                  I really do not understand the VOIP stuff for domestic usage. Maybe someone can explain it all to me and why it is better.

                                  Currently this is what I have through SBC
                                  Unlimted US calling.
                                  Caller ID, Call Waiting, Call Waiting ID, Three Way calling, Caller ID selective blocking, Wirepro and an unlisted number for 22.23 +4.41 in taxes (26.64)
                                  It also gets me .01 a minute to Canada, and .03 a minute to the philipines.
                                  Well for one I don't think many local carriers offer that low of price, I was paying over $50 for what you have with unlimited long distance from my local carrier, and the taxes are fucking outrageous. The coolest thing about VOIP is when you travel you can simply hookup to any high speed internet connection and make calls through it and receive calls through the number you always use. The drawbacks are its not quite as reliable, I especially noticed this through Vonage. Calls would drop in the middle of conversations, etc. Although it hasnt happened once since I started using a different company. What I like most about it is I'm not giving money to the crooked bastards at the phone company.
                                  Last edited by SuckOnThis; 08-16-2005, 12:02 PM.

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                                  • After Shock Media
                                    It's coming look busy
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 35299

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                    Well for one I don't think many local carriers offer that low of price, I was paying over $50 for what you have with unlimited long distance from my local carrier, and the taxes are fucking outrageous. The coolest thing about VOIP is when you travel you can simply hookup to any high speed internet connection and make calls through it and receive calls through the number you always use. The drawbacks are its not quite as reliable, I especially noticed this through Vonage. Calls would drop in the middle of conversations, etc. Although it hasnt happened once since I started using a different company. What I like most about it is I'm not giving money to the crooked bastards at the phone company.
                                    You get low rates through the phone company if you know how to deal with the phone companies. Main trick is to play them off each other. Do this for awhile and you will get loaded with free gifts and an ever decreasing phone bill.
                                    True my number is not portable, though that is why I do have a cell phone. Ussually I can get reception on the cell easier than I could find a high speed connection when traveling.
                                    I am also perfectly fine giving money to the phone companies. They are extremely responsible for my income and my ability to do business as I do.

                                    [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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                                    • sperbonzo
                                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 9750

                                      #19
                                      Personally, I'm all about SKYPE


                                      The quality is awesome, and almost everyone that I do business with outside the US is on it, so it's free to call them on their computers.
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                                      • bjjb
                                        Have laptop will travel
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 13074

                                        #20
                                        http://www.thedigest.com/articles/179/9.html

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                                        • GatorB
                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 18208

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                          I really do not understand the VOIP stuff for domestic usage. Maybe someone can explain it all to me and why it is better.

                                          Currently this is what I have through SBC
                                          Unlimted US calling.
                                          Caller ID, Call Waiting, Call Waiting ID, Three Way calling, Caller ID selective blocking, Wirepro and an unlisted number for 22.23 +4.41 in taxes (26.64)
                                          It also gets me .01 a minute to Canada, and .03 a minute to the philipines.

                                          Well not everyone has SBC. Bellsouth is what is our local carrier and with all the taxes fees etc, the total bill is $67 for phone service. I can get the same stuff with VoIP for what $25? So that's a savings of $500 a year and you ask why anyone would want VoIP?

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                                          • After Shock Media
                                            It's coming look busy
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 35299

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by GatorB
                                            Well not everyone has SBC. Bellsouth is what is our local carrier and with all the taxes fees etc, the total bill is $67 for phone service. I can get the same stuff with VoIP for what $25? So that's a savings of $500 a year and you ask why anyone would want VoIP?
                                            For that I totally understand. Hell I would switch if it was a 50%+ savings.
                                            Curious though do many areas have only 1 telco company that offers local and ld?

                                            [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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                                            • GatorB
                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 18208

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                              For that I totally understand. Hell I would switch if it was a 50%+ savings.
                                              Curious though do many areas have only 1 telco company that offers local and ld?

                                              As far as I know in the US one ONE telco is allowed to service an area for local. As far as LD who is going to be any cheaper? Just the local from Bellsouth is a minimum of $25 a month not counting sales tax, regulatory fees, 911 fees, fee to pay off the Spanish American War( a real fee ) That's another $10 or more for all those so even if I could get LD fro MCI or Spirint or whomever for FREE, VoIP is still cheaper.

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                                              • warlock5
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 2808

                                                #24
                                                I had a problem with Vonage a few days ago -- and that was a first, for nearly a year of use. I've heard their customer service sucks. With all the money they are spending on advertising and other new customer aquisititon costs I doubt there is much left to go around, for now. They need to get a handle on service or else they will lose customers to other VOIP companies.

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                                                • bjjb
                                                  Have laptop will travel
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 13074

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                  As far as I know in the US one ONE telco is allowed to service an area for local. .
                                                  That must have changed lately because theere was another Local company that just entered the market here just in the last 2 months. They strung miles and miles and miles of aboive ground fiber optic wire and almost everyone one in the county can get it. And its a huge county. Also offering longdistance and cable tv on the same line.

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                                                  • High Quality
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 5741

                                                    #26
                                                    I have vonage on my business line. I like the service thus far.

                                                    I noticed in the signup agreement that there was a $39.95 disconnect fee, regardless of whether you bought the adapter or not.

                                                    You agreed to it, you gotta pay for it.

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                                                    • justsexxx
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 13723

                                                      #27
                                                      I use www.voipbuster.com I added 1 USD, and I can call free to almost any country(that I need)
                                                      Questions?

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                                                      • justsexxx
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 13723

                                                        #28
                                                        http://www.voipbuster.com/en/rates.html
                                                        Questions?

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                                                        • GatorB
                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 18208

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bjjb
                                                          That must have changed lately because theere was another Local company that just entered the market here just in the last 2 months. They strung miles and miles and miles of aboive ground fiber optic wire and almost everyone one in the county can get it. And its a huge county. Also offering longdistance and cable tv on the same line.
                                                          No it's always been that way ever since they broke up MA Bell in 1982. Sure there's the check cashing places that offer "local" service in my area. For $50 a month. What a deal. But they aren't "telcos" they just lease the line from BellSouth. Go up to those green boxes in front of your house or neighbor houses and you'll see there is ONE name on them. I doubt very much that your local government is going to allow 5 or 10 or 20 different companies to lay wire out.

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                                                          • SuckOnThis
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 6844

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by High Quality
                                                            I have vonage on my business line. I like the service thus far.

                                                            I noticed in the signup agreement that there was a $39.95 disconnect fee, regardless of whether you bought the adapter or not.

                                                            You agreed to it, you gotta pay for it.

                                                            Wrong. There is nothing in there agreement that says that. It only states if you get the adapter from them and don't return it they will charge you. And it also states:

                                                            3.6 Termination Fee (Does Not Apply to Business Plus Customers). You will be charged a termination fee of $39.99 per voice line if your Service is terminated for any reason during the first twelve months following the activation of your Service.

                                                            I've had it more than 12 months.

                                                            And in the email I received:

                                                            Device(s) must be returned within 14 days of the issuance of the RA#. If
                                                            the device is not returned within this timeframe, your RA# will expire and
                                                            you may be charged the full price of the device or a disconnect charge of
                                                            $39.99 depending on the situation.

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                                                            • Jace
                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 35562

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                              I really do not understand the VOIP stuff for domestic usage. Maybe someone can explain it all to me and why it is better.

                                                              Currently this is what I have through SBC
                                                              Unlimted US calling.
                                                              Caller ID, Call Waiting, Call Waiting ID, Three Way calling, Caller ID selective blocking, Wirepro and an unlisted number for 22.23 +4.41 in taxes (26.64)
                                                              It also gets me .01 a minute to Canada, and .03 a minute to the philipines.
                                                              I have 1 main #, and 3 virtual #'s

                                                              One # in Atlanta
                                                              One # in Kentucky
                                                              One # in Los Angeles
                                                              and this is the fun one
                                                              One # in London, UK

                                                              all LOCAL #'s for those in those areas that want to call

                                                              can your SBC do that?

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                                                              • GatorB
                                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 18208

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                I have 1 main #, and 3 virtual #'s

                                                                One # in Atlanta
                                                                One # in Kentucky
                                                                One # in Los Angeles
                                                                and this is the fun one
                                                                One # in London, UK

                                                                all LOCAL #'s for those in those areas that want to call

                                                                can your SBC do that?
                                                                I would like it if Vonage offered numbers for my local area. Hell they don't offer ANY for my whole area code. Packet 8 is the only one that offers a number for the town I live in.

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                                                                • Why
                                                                  MFBA
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 7230

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i just charged it back.

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                                                                  • Jace
                                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 35562

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                    I would like it if Vonage offered numbers for my local area. Hell they don't offer ANY for my whole area code. Packet 8 is the only one that offers a number for the town I live in.
                                                                    what area?

                                                                    one thing I noticed with vonage is, you kind of have to hit them when they have the #'s avilable...cause I have gone and there has been only one georgia area code avilable....then I go back later and there are 4 area codes available...it is just hit or miss depending on what they aquired at the time

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                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 18208

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                      what area?

                                                                      one thing I noticed with vonage is, you kind of have to hit them when they have the #'s avilable...cause I have gone and there has been only one georgia area code avilable....then I go back later and there are 4 area codes available...it is just hit or miss depending on what they aquired at the time
                                                                      I check all the time and they have NEVER offered ANY numbers in my area code. Trust me if my area code became available they wouldn't run out anytime soon.

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                                                                      • After Shock Media
                                                                        It's coming look busy
                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 35299

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                        I have 1 main #, and 3 virtual #'s

                                                                        One # in Atlanta
                                                                        One # in Kentucky
                                                                        One # in Los Angeles
                                                                        and this is the fun one
                                                                        One # in London, UK

                                                                        all LOCAL #'s for those in those areas that want to call

                                                                        can your SBC do that?
                                                                        I was asking only in regards to the usage and hype around it as some great savings tool. I already said I do not have local numbers elsewhere. Though they did give me a dedicated 877 number that also is only .02 a minute which is fine for me since its my business line anyways and it all gets writen off in the end.

                                                                        [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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                                                                        • XxXotic
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                          • 8500

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                          As far as I know in the US one ONE telco is allowed to service an area for local. As far as LD who is going to be any cheaper? Just the local from Bellsouth is a minimum of $25 a month not counting sales tax, regulatory fees, 911 fees, fee to pay off the Spanish American War( a real fee ) That's another $10 or more for all those so even if I could get LD fro MCI or Spirint or whomever for FREE, VoIP is still cheaper.
                                                                          thats not true, we have 3 local carriers down here. Bell South, Eatel and whatever that ghetto phone service is for people with shitty credit i think its called "homefone" or something
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                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 18208

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by XxXotic
                                                                            thats not true, we have 3 local carriers down here. Bell South, Eatel and whatever that ghetto phone service is for people with shitty credit i think its called "homefone" or something
                                                                            "homefone" is NOT a telco. When I say telco I mean acompany that actually lay lines and does actual construction and maitenances are said lines. "homefone" leases lines from telcos like Bellsouth. Eatel serves a very small area and if you also have Bellsouth do not know how that works. All I know is wherever I have lived you have had ONE telco in the area. Also cable companies are not classified as "telcos" even if they provide phone service.

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