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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
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    #151
    150 terrorists...
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    • just a punk
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      • Jun 2003
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      #152
      Originally posted by mattyboy
      Sky are reporting that a rebel has been found and the townsfolk are giving him a beating.
      They said a REBEL???
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      • Vegn Irfunt
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        • Aug 2004
        • 40

        #153
        Originally posted by cyberxxx
        Not exactly. They are really fighting for the Islamic country.
        But it's only plausible excuse not the reason.
        Why nobody fights for Islamic republic at the desert?
        All I ask for is the chance to prove that money cannot make me happy.

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        • Sarah_Jayne
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          • Dec 2002
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          #154
          Originally posted by cyberxxx
          They said a REBEL???
          fox and sky are the same company

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          • TIMZIM
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            • Feb 2003
            • 213

            #155
            Minimum 5 out of the 10 people killed, seem to be children.

            It´s getting worse ...

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            • just a punk
              So fuckin' bored
              • Jun 2003
              • 32385

              #156
              Originally posted by TIMZIM
              Minimum 5 out of the 10 people killed, seem to be children.

              It´s getting worse ...
              As I said already. I have heard about 150 killed. At least 7 hostages died while they were transported to the hospital. So that's already too bad
              Obey the Cowgod

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              • Theo
                HAL 9000
                • May 2001
                • 34515

                #157
                and Guardian?
                http://www.guardian.co.uk/chechnya/S...293906,00.html


                and CNN?
                http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9910/19/chechnya.01/

                and BBC?
                http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3720375.stm

                and NEWS FROM RUSSIA?
                http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/04/04/53197.html


                and MOS(cow) NEWS?
                http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/02/chechen.shtml


                I would assume by now those that do know so many things about chechens (unlike me) they would have noticed the rebel remark by the majority of the world media. (including russian)

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                • The Machine
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                  • May 2002
                  • 859

                  #158
                  Originally posted by evildick
                  On CNN front page now:

                  Militants? Rebels? If this isn't a clear case of terrorism I don't know what is.
                  I found that strange too. This PC bs is getting rather annoying.
                  Complex, large-scale, multi-platform custom programming.

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                  • SuziQT
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                    • Nov 2003
                    • 167

                    #159
                    This woman on Fox news just went off! Said this was dispicable no matter what the cause! She was pissed! Good for her!!!

                    Edit: Seems like her and the darkhaired guy are arguing behind the scenes about what to call them. She is saying terrorist and he keeps saying militant.
                    Last edited by SuziQT; 09-03-2004, 04:28 AM.

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                    • Vegn Irfunt
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 40

                      #160
                      Originally posted by cyberxxx
                      They said a REBEL???
                      According to the law nobody can be called terrorist unless he foud guilty in terrorism by court's vedict. It's just no more than presumption of innocence.
                      All I ask for is the chance to prove that money cannot make me happy.

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                      • Matt 26z
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 18481

                        #161
                        I had no idea the terrorists were keeping them from eating and drinking all this time. I figured Russia was able to send supplies in as needed.

                        Most Russian kids are undernourished as it is, so days without food and water is just horrible for them.

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                        • just a punk
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                          • Jun 2003
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                          #162
                          Originally posted by Vegn Irfunt
                          According to the law nobody can be called terrorist unless he foud guilty in terrorism by court's vedict. It's just no more than presumption of innocence.
                          Ok, Osama Bin Laden is a rebel right? As far as I know he wasn't been convict. BTW, the guys who bombed NY Twins also were rebels? Are you sure?
                          Obey the Cowgod

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                          • just a punk
                            So fuckin' bored
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 32385

                            #163
                            Originally posted by Matt 26z
                            Most Russian kids are undernourished as it is, so days without food and water is just horrible for them.
                            Undernourished you say? I live in Russia for a long time, but I don't see any undernourished children around. Listen, Russian is not a former USSR, it's not Afghanistan, is not Africa, and is not Korea. You may believe me, but here we have no problem with food.
                            Obey the Cowgod

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                            • Mr-No
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                              • Oct 2001
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                              #164
                              Originally posted by mattyboy
                              the rebels are trying to escape...
                              They aren't rebels

                              They are terrorists
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                              • volante
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                                • Mar 2002
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                                #165
                                A British cameraman from ITV News just managed to get into the school gym briefly before the Russian military threw him out.

                                He said he saw at least 100 bodies...

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                                • Garou
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                                  • Mar 2003
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                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                  no I am talking about Russian Military action in Chechen (those 'Rebels' are from there in case you didn't know)

                                  you might want to read this

                                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true

                                  this is one of many stories , those are not made up

                                  Once again I am not condoning the actions of those "Rebels" only trying to say that each and one of you could have been doing the EXACT same thing if you were from Chechen and you have witnessed what Russian troops have done to your city you family your children

                                  http://www.anchorweb.org/Opinion/020403/russia.html

                                  so first read then judge
                                  sorry that the propaganda made so much impression on You. But if You were smart u'd understand that. Sorry for You again

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                                  • Garou
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                                    • Mar 2003
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                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                    ever thought what drove these people this far to take such desperate actions ?

                                    those 'rebels' are people who have been terrorized by the Russian Authority , thousands of chechen men , woman and childeren are killed by the Russian Military every day ,

                                    woman get raped , young men dissapear

                                    I am not saying this condones theire action

                                    but they are not just some sick fucks doing this for the fun of it


                                    their children get killed by Russian Authority so they kill Russian Childeren
                                    stupid asshole unñle fucker could say/think this way. No brains, no heart. Sorry

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                                    • LukieD
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                                      • Dec 2001
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                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by volante
                                      A British cameraman from ITV News just managed to get into the school gym briefly before the Russian military threw him out.

                                      He said he saw at least 100 bodies...

                                      yep just watched it. Amazing reporting on ITV.

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                                      • Sarah_Jayne
                                        Now with more Jayne
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 40077

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by volante
                                        A British cameraman from ITV News just managed to get into the school gym briefly before the Russian military threw him out.

                                        He said he saw at least 100 bodies...

                                        yeah, just heard that on BBC radio

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                                        • mardigras
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                                          • Feb 2003
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                                          #170
                                          MSNBC now saying authorities are reporting estimated 100 bodies inside.
                                          .

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                                          • Preacher
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                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 2970

                                            #171
                                            On tv they just said 100+ people dead

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                                            • crockett
                                              in a van by the river
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 76818

                                              #172
                                              damn looks like this might cause all out war with Russia and Chechnya ...


                                              http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9910/19/chechnya.01/
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                                              • Garou
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                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                Yes, that WAS sleeping gas, which is really killed a lot of hostages (don't you really think such a powerfull sleeping gas could be good for health-giving...) However, the gun men were killed by Alfa warrior. Each bustard got a 9mm hole in his fuckin' head.
                                                Most have died of the tongues stuck in their throats when they were unconscious, some were astmatics etc

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                                                • Fake Nick
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                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 7708

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by Garou
                                                  stupid asshole unñle fucker could say/think this way. No brains, no heart. Sorry

                                                  all I am saying is that if you terrorize people they wil react

                                                  Russian military has done so with Chechen people

                                                  Chechen people no like and small groups now terrorize Russian people

                                                  once again I do not support terror nor from the Russians nor from the Chechens , all I am saying is that the people that took over this school did so for a reason and not because they thought they would find oil there
                                                  Last edited by Fake Nick; 09-03-2004, 05:17 AM.

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                                                  • evanmorgan
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                                                    • Aug 2004
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                                                    #175
                                                    arent these shit heads gonna lose support from less extreme ones for kidnapping a load of kids. I dont really have any idea whats going on but any terrorists who are such cowards that they go into a school should be chained to a tree in siberia (not sure whether they have trees)

                                                    How awful, shoot the basterds
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                                                    • Fake Nick
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                                                      • Jul 2004
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                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                      arent these shit heads gonna lose support from less extreme ones for kidnapping a load of kids. I dont really have any idea whats going on but any terrorists who are such cowards that they go into a school should be chained to a tree in siberia (not sure whether they have trees)

                                                      How awful, shoot the basterds

                                                      true , it definately wont help their cause

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                                                      • evanmorgan
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                                                        • Aug 2004
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                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                        all I am saying is that if you terrorize people they wil react

                                                        Russian military has done so with Chechen people

                                                        Chechen people no like and small groups now terrorize Russian people

                                                        once again I do not support terror nor from the Russians nor from the Chechens , all I am saying is that the people that took over this school did so for a reason and not because they thought they would find oil there
                                                        The reason is, their pussys and cant beat adults up.
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                                                        • just a punk
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                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                          damn looks like this might cause all out war with Russia and Chechnya ...
                                                          "with Russia and Chechnya". Sounds like if I say a war with Unated States of America and Texas. May be you don't know but Chechnya IS A PART of Russia.
                                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                                          • Fake Nick
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                                                            • Jul 2004
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                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                            The reason is, their pussys and cant beat adults up.

                                                            I don't know if you bothered to follow the newsreports but they had bombs and guns

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                                                            • just a punk
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                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 32385

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by Garou
                                                              Most have died of the tongues stuck in their throats when they were unconscious, some were astmatics etc
                                                              Exactly.
                                                              Obey the Cowgod

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                                                              • Fake Nick
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                                                                • Jul 2004
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                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                "with Russia and Chechnya". Sounds like if I say a war with Unated States of America and Texas. May be you don't know but Chechnya IS A PART of Russia.

                                                                and still there is a Chechen - Russian war

                                                                has been going on for the last 10 years

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                                                                • just a punk
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                                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                  once again I do not support terror nor from the Russians nor from the Chechens , all I am saying is that the people that took over this school did so for a reason and not because they thought they would find oil there
                                                                  What's about the US terror against civil Iraqi people? Do you support it? Stupid heartless moron.
                                                                  Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                  • Fake Nick
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
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                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                    What's about the US terror against civil Iraqi people? Do you support it? Stupid heartless moron.

                                                                    why do you change the subject ? if you read my reply carefully you have your anwser

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                                                                    • masterE
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                                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                      damn looks like this might cause all out war with Russia and Chechnya ...


                                                                      http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9910/19/chechnya.01/
                                                                      That's from 1999

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                                                                      • Garou
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                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                        all I am saying is that if you terrorize people they wil react

                                                                        Russian military has done so with Chechen people

                                                                        Chechen people no like and small groups now terrorize Russian people

                                                                        once again I do not support terror nor from the Russians nor from the Chechens , all I am saying is that the people that took over this school did so for a reason and not because they thought they would find oil there
                                                                        What do You know about Chechen ppl to say that?
                                                                        Those terrorists are from all over the world - chechen ppl have nothing in commom with them. Russia and Chechnya lived in peace for a lonh time - Grozny (the capital) was one of the richest cities in former USSR.
                                                                        Those islamic fanatics that blow up the subways etc have nothing to do with the Chechens who want to live in peace as they used to. DO NOT MIX them with Chechen ppl.
                                                                        Be smarter than that please.

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                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 32385

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                          arent these shit heads gonna lose support from less extreme ones for kidnapping a load of kids. I dont really have any idea whats going on but any terrorists who are such cowards that they go into a school should be chained to a tree in siberia (not sure whether they have trees)
                                                                          Have the trees where? In Siberian taiga??? Actually Siberian taiga is a very-very huge big forest. Guess there are some trees in the forest
                                                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                          • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                            • Apr 2003
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                                                                            #187
                                                                            what is it with the damn russians and bad handling of hostage situations.

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                                                                            • Fake Nick
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                                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by Garou
                                                                              What do You know about Chechen ppl to say that?

                                                                              simple , my nextdoor neigbhoors are Chechen refugees


                                                                              and no they are not muslim , if you heard their stories you would know what I am talking about

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                                                                              • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                • Dec 2002
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                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by mdcq
                                                                                what is it with the damn russians and bad handling of hostage situations.
                                                                                well they aren't exactly in the best funding situation at the moment. I dont' think even the US or the UK would know exactly how to deal with this one.

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                                                                                • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 40077

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  but that said, they would have an amublance there and ready

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                                                                                  • masterE
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                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                    What's about the US terror against civil Iraqi people? Do you support it? Stupid heartless moron.
                                                                                    Apples and Oranges there.

                                                                                    You can't possibly compare what those terrorists have done to those kids to the war in Iraq.

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                                                                                    • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by masterE
                                                                                      Apples and Oranges there.

                                                                                      You can't possibly compare what those terrorists have done to those kids to the war in Iraq.
                                                                                      Well, an innocent child dead is an innocent child dead BUT right now that isn't the point. Right now it is about this event.

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                                                                                      • masterE
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                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                        Well, an innocent child dead is an innocent child dead BUT right now that isn't the point. Right now it is about this event.
                                                                                        Exactly

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                                                                                        • Fake Nick
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                                                                                          • Jul 2004
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                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                          Well, an innocent child dead is an innocent child dead BUT right now that isn't the point. Right now it is about this event.
                                                                                          no I care to dissagree what happened to these children already did and cannot be prevented anymor

                                                                                          the most important thing now is preventing this from happening again , and therefore you have to know WHY this has happend and WHAT drives NORMAL people to the extend they are willing to risk their own live and the lives of hundreds of INNOCENT children

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                                                                                          • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                                            no I care to dissagree what happened to these children already did and cannot be prevented anymor

                                                                                            the most important thing now is preventing this from happening again , and therefore you have to know WHY this has happend and WHAT drives NORMAL people to the extend they are willing to risk their own live and the lives of hundreds of INNOCENT children
                                                                                            I can see your point and of course there should be forward planning but on my radio there is still gunfire so at the moment I am worrying about these kids. In the back of my head I worry about all kids in the world but today I am prayng (or whatver) extra hard for these.

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                                                                                            • Giorgio_Xo
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                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              The Russians are idiots. Every time they storm a building they lose alot of innocents. The Russkis are too heavy handed.
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                                                                                              • TheWildcard
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                                                                                                • Jun 2004
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                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                And let the war begin.

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                                                                                                • crockett
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                                                                                                  • May 2003
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                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                  The Russians are idiots. Every time they storm a building they lose alot of innocents. The Russkis are too heavy handed.
                                                                                                  well it seems from the reports they didn't have a choice.. A large bomb went off inside the school and some of the hostages tried to run.. the Terrorist's then started shooting them.. So the Russian troops had to go in..
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                                                                                                  • masterE
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                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Yeah, from what the news says, the terrorists fired first, the Russians thought they had a deal to go in and gather the dead. The terrorists then attacked. the kids ran, and the terrorists in the building attacked the kids, and all hell broke loose.

                                                                                                    That's what I'm getting from the news now at least

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                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      Anyone remembers the theatre in Moscow?
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