Or is it heading "King George Bush the 1st "faster than we think?
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You might be fucked.. especially with those new computerized voting machines they are pushing.Originally posted by RayVega
Or is it heading "King George Bush the 1st "faster than we think?
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I thought this was a RepublicComment
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Having only 2 possible parties to vote for is one step away from 1-party system. That my comrads is not too far from dictatorship. I never understood why you only had the option for 2 different parties.
*shrug*..and I'm off.Comment
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There are more than 2 parties on the ballot, but they get very little notice. I don't understand it either, but we have evolved as such that we associate ourselves with either democrat or republican...the other parties get so little play that it isn't even worth voting for their candidates.Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Having only 2 possible parties to vote for is one step away from 1-party system. That my comrads is not too far from dictatorship. I never understood why you only had the option for 2 different parties.
*shrug*
One of the major issues is that candidates can advertise on TV and such...the two parties with the most money take the market, like windows and linux...Comment
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It isn't a democracy today, and it will never be. Hopefully sane people will evetually replace the greedy criminals who have seized the levers of power.Comment
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two parties? how about close to 30 parties at times?Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Having only 2 possible parties to vote for is one step away from 1-party system. That my comrads is not too far from dictatorship. I never understood why you only had the option for 2 different parties.
*shrug*Comment
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Multiple party systems mean that people consider voting for them. Unfortunately in the US it means that most likely only Democrats consider voting for another party like the Greens. This also means that we have to keep G.W. for another Term. So don't vote for another party at this election.Originally posted by baddog
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am afraid I have to . . . I would hate to see Kerry win, and I won't vote for BushOriginally posted by andi_germany
Multiple party systems mean that people consider voting for them. Unfortunately in the US it means that most likely only Democrats consider voting for another party like the Greens. This also means that we have to keep G.W. for another Term. So don't vote for another party at this election.Comment
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No no no. Suck it up and vote for Kerry. If you do I will not mock your spamming for four more years.Originally posted by baddog
am afraid I have to . . . I would hate to see Kerry win, and I won't vote for BushComment
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While you have a system so reliant on the amount of money spent and the big businesses who contribute the money, true Democracy is rare. What ever country it is, businesses do not waste money on something that does not provide a result.
What surprised me was the amount of information the voter gets in the US. While I was there recently I watched the news channels and was surprised at the lack of real coverage the election gets.
There was lots of coverage on the slander and lies being put out by both sides supporters in the form of ads. Most of the ads I saw were negative and more aimed at don't vote for him, assuming then the voter would have to vote for the other guy. Which shows you the true number of participants.
What I never heard was what Kerry or Bush will do to run the US better than the shambles it's in now. This at a time when the US has lost 1,200,000 jobs, unemployment is growing the gap between the poor and rich is growing and the dollar is still in the toilet. No one came up with any solutions or even appeared to have a clue how to fix it.Comment
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turn on your ICQOriginally posted by freeadultcontent
No no no. Suck it up and vote for Kerry. If you do I will not mock your spamming for four more years.Comment
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Being an american, I am ashamed to have to agree with you. Austrailia is looking better to me every day.Originally posted by charly
While you have a system so reliant on the amount of money spent and the big businesses who contribute the money, true Democracy is rare. What ever country it is, businesses do not waste money on something that does not provide a result.
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What I never heard was what Kerry or Bush will do to run the US better than the shambles it's in now. This at a time when the US has lost 1,200,000 jobs, unemployment is growing the gap between the poor and rich is growing and the dollar is still in the toilet. No one came up with any solutions or even appeared to have a clue how to fix it.Comment
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Paul, don't feel bad, we don't know what the fuck those two plan to do to run the country better either. I still have no clue what Kerry stands for, and Bush, well.......Originally posted by charly
What I never heard was what Kerry or Bush will do to run the US better than the shambles it's in now. This at a time when the US has lost 1,200,000 jobs, unemployment is growing the gap between the poor and rich is growing and the dollar is still in the toilet. No one came up with any solutions or even appeared to have a clue how to fix it.
And with everyone saying "Don't vote for Nader or any other party candidate because it is only a vote for Bush" don't realize the amount of people just like me that are looking for that third candidate and how probable it would be that that candidate on the grassy knoll would have half a chance. I'm particular on Libertarian myself.
But then throw in the fucking electoral bullshit and their point becomes valid. We can all vote, but it doesn't matter anymore. One man one vote isn't the reality.
In essence, damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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Since when has the US been a democracy?
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Up until the south lost the civil war. Worst thing that ever happened to this country. The issue of slavery aside, the federal government dictating what we do in our own states is not what was intended when the union was formed.Originally posted by Tala
Since when has the US been a democracy?
The federal government was formed so we could unite against outsiders with a common army, money standard etc...now look what has happened. Blacks won the freedom to be forced into "ghettos" and poverty, and we all lost most of our rights to a select few who hold power.Comment
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In response to the thread title...the US has never been a Democracy...it is...from the beginning a Republic...as some others in this thread have pointed out.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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If you think this is stupid, check this out:Originally posted by alexg
this thread is stupid. period.
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don't worry, the USA will be the same by the time you move here.Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Having only 2 possible parties to vote for is one step away from 1-party system. That my comrads is not too far from dictatorship. I never understood why you only had the option for 2 different parties.
*shrug*
have you picked the state you prefer?
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byeOriginally posted by RayVega
Being an american, I am ashamed to have to agree with you. Austrailia is looking better to me every day.Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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Think learned this in about the 4th or 5th grade.Originally posted by theking
In response to the thread title...the US has never been a Democracy...it is...from the beginning a Republic...as some others in this thread have pointed out.
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Originally posted by Tala
Since when has the US been a democracy?RayVega
Up until the south lost the civil war. Worst thing that ever happened to this country. The issue of slavery aside, the federal government dictating what we do in our own states is not what was intended when the union was formed.
The federal government was formed so we could unite against outsiders with a common army, money standard etc...now look what has happened. Blacks won the freedom to be forced into "ghettos" and poverty, and we all lost most of our rights to a select few who hold power.Originally posted by theking
In response to the thread title...the US has never been a Democracy...it is...from the beginning a Republic...as some others in this thread have pointed out.
Contrary to what you all seem to think, republic and democracy aren't mutually exclusive./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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The USA is aOriginally posted by punkworld
Contrary to what you all seem to think, republic and democracy aren't mutually exclusive.
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Originally posted by jimmyf
The USA is a
democratic republic PERIOD......
democracy is an illusion that is fed to you since you were born.
It's time to wake up
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oh my fucking god, give me breakOriginally posted by doober
democracy is an illusion that is fed to you since you were born.
It's time to wake up
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Originally posted by jimmyf
oh my fucking god, give me break
300,000,000 people in your country and only 2 candidates that actually have a chance at winning a presidential election.
One could be considered a hero but the other should defenitely be considered a Zero.
I guess its just the herding in process and people think they actually have a choice.
Not to mention that a retarded monkey with and a half broken crayon could do as much if not more thant the current dimwit in office today.
What kind of democracy is this?
A democracy were the $ is mightier than any vote (or 500,000) or ballots casted
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The US is a Democratic Republic and our system for electing a President is based upon the Electorial College. In answer to your question...America's form of democracy...speaking in general...we like it...as it has served us well for more than 200 years.Originally posted by doober
300,000,000 people in your country and only 2 candidates that actually have a chance at winning a presidential election.
One could be considered a hero but the other should defenitely be considered a Zero.
I guess its just the herding in process and people think they actually have a choice.
Not to mention that a retarded monkey with and a half broken crayon could do as much if not more thant the current dimwit in office today.
What kind of democracy is this?
A democracy were the $ is mightier than any vote (or 500,000) or ballots casted
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And it's also a representative democracy and a liberal democracy.Originally posted by jimmyf
The USA is a
democratic republic PERIOD....../(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Originally posted by RayVega
Up until the south lost the civil war. Worst thing that ever happened to this country. The issue of slavery aside, the federal government dictating what we do in our own states is not what was intended when the union was formed.
The federal government was formed so we could unite against outsiders with a common army, money standard etc...now look what has happened. Blacks won the freedom to be forced into "ghettos" and poverty, and we all lost most of our rights to a select few who hold power.
Sorry to have to go further back in my own countires history, but thing were messed up before Lincoln was " voted " in.
Do a little research about his being voted into office. There was not a single vote from any southern state for him. And his election was prior to the succession of the majority of the states.PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
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Hate to break it to you but the US has never been a complete democracy...
Its a republic.
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We will be more than fine we will have to slip a lot more than we have in the last 4 years for us to really go down...Comment
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I don't know why people keep saying this.Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Hate to break it to you but the US has never been a complete democracy...
Its a republic.
leaders are elected in a democratic process and the government is structured similar to a republic since a one-man, one-vote government could not operate on this scale. I guess you could call it a democratic-republic but it was/is the intention of the founders to be more of a democracy than anything.
The former USSR was a republic.
It's that democratic process that is in danger. Not that it has existed as more than an illusion for a long time anyway.Comment
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USA is only one Israel's colony
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are you really that stupid?Originally posted by RayVega
Blacks won the freedom to be forced into "ghettos" and povertyComment
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don't let the door hit your ass on the way out . . . . need help packing?Originally posted by RayVega
Being an american, I am ashamed to have to agree with you. Austrailia is looking better to me every day.Comment
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okay . . . . how do you think it should be done?Originally posted by doober
300,000,000 people in your country and only 2 candidates that actually have a chance at winning a presidential election.
One could be considered a hero but the other should defenitely be considered a Zero.
I guess its just the herding in process and people think they actually have a choice.
Not to mention that a retarded monkey with and a half broken crayon could do as much if not more thant the current dimwit in office today.
What kind of democracy is this?
A democracy were the $ is mightier than any vote (or 500,000) or ballots casted
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Democracy is diluting away.
But I think you can look forward to:
Fascism
Militarism
Imperialism
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I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of AmericaOriginally posted by RayVega
I guess you could call it a democratic-republic but it was/is the intention of the founders to be more of a democracy than anything.
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.Comment
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Well that proves it.Originally posted by baddog
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.Comment
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There is not an also.Originally posted by punkworld
And it's also a representative democracy and a liberal democracy.
Main Entry: re·pub·lic
Function: noun
1 : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
2 : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of governmentWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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People keep saying it because our fore fathers founded a Democratic Republic.Originally posted by RayVega
I don't know why people keep saying this.
leaders are elected in a democratic process and the government is structured similar to a republic since a one-man, one-vote government could not operate on this scale. I guess you could call it a democratic-republic but it was/is the intention of the founders to be more of a democracy than anything.
The former USSR was a republic.
It's that democratic process that is in danger. Not that it has existed as more than an illusion for a long time anyway.
Main Entry: re·pub·lic
Function: noun
1 : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
2 : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of governmentWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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From Webster's dict.Originally posted by theking
People keep saying it because our fore fathers founded a Democratic Republic.
Main Entry: re·pub·lic
Function: noun
1 : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
2 : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law; also : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
Democracy
a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
So what's your point?Comment
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RepublicOriginally posted by theking
There is not an also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy
Read, idiot, read./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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I do not need to read your links. I am well versed on what a Democratic Republic is and is not when it comes to America. In America the fore fathers founded a Democratic Republic which is a representative form of government. Pure Democracy has never been practiced as a form of government by any country in history...at least that I am aware of. A pure Democracy does not elect representatives to make decisions for them but instead allows the people to vote directly on every issue.Originally posted by punkworld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy
Read, idiot, read.
I repeat...the US was founded as a Democratic Republic and that is the extent of it...period. Now
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That is not the definition of a pure/direct Democracy. Read my post above.Originally posted by RayVega
From Webster's dict.
Democracy
a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
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I didn't speak about a *pure* democracy. I mentioned *representative democracy* and *liberal democracy*. Apparently, you don't even fucking know what those things mean...Originally posted by theking
I do not need to read your links. I am well versed on what a Democratic Republic is and is not when it comes to America. In America the fore fathers founded a Democratic Republic which is a representative form of government. Pure Democracy has never been practiced as a form of government by any country in history...at least that I am aware of. A pure Democracy does not elect representatives to make decisions for them but instead allows the people to vote directly on every issue.
I repeat...the US was founded as a Democratic Republic and that is the extent of it...period. Now
Idiot
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