InsaneMidget
Internet Entrepeneur
Registered: May 2002
Location: Canada eh
Posts: 571
This is everything I know about this guy, I also included my icq log with him.
ICQ: 105935400
Nick: Bullseye & MikeChangs (Maybe more)
Email:
[email protected]
Address: Southampton, United Kingdom of Great Britain
Cell Phone: 794 9523868
I never bought from this guy, he gave me a list of 10,000 emails as a "sample" which I still have a copy of. Here is our icq log:
Bullseye: hi mate, how can I help you?
Me: You sell email lists right?
Bullseye: yes i do
Me: What kind of lists?
Bullseye: teen and hardcore combined
Me: How many emails?
Me: Your nick "Bullseye" is extremely familiar...
Bullseye: dont know why! lol
Bullseye: the list of people who have previously joined sites is $300 for 700,000 the previous list i have im not selling now.
Me: Okay, I hope you don't mind, but I've never done this and don't have a very open mind to it. Is there anyway I can try out a sample amount of emails, and if everything turns out fine, we can go from there.
Bullseye: that is a fair deal, ill send you a small sample list
Me: One thing, What kind of sponsor should I use? Will they terminate my account?
Bullseye: if people complain its likly yes, always tell the email receipient they are opted in because technically they are, and give them a way to remove them selves from lists, do that and youl be fine
Me: Cool, also, what is the best way for me to send these?
I have free cgi mailer scripts, is that okay? Or do I need your software?
Bullseye: if you have cgi mailers that work use them its the safer
and easier way, but i do include full sending software on the CD
to use if you wish, it is certainly faster than web based sending
Me: How much is the software?
Bullseye: it is on the main CD i supply along with 30 million general address lists for $49
Bullseye: those arnt all adult users and arnt as successful as the others oviously
Me: Okay, I will try these out and get a mailer up and running, I'll find some teen hardcore sponsor or something.
Bullseye: yes ok, good luck. also if you wanted the software id give it to you with the other address lists anyway mate
Me: How much are the other lists?
Bullseye: $300
so no need to pay me extra for the sending program!
Me: Okay, I'll see how this goes first
Bullseye: ok thats fine, and hopefully ill speak to you soon mate
Me: Is there a certain way to make html emails? Or to place html in emails?
Bullseye: yes there is, in the sending software i have.
others, im not too sure about
Me: Okay
Bullseye: you should see results from the mails.
The software I have sends through IP which you set as a proxy,
ill give you the number, your ISP wont even know you are sending any mails if your interested.
Bullseye: also im not trying to put pressure on you in anyway but i wont keep selling the premium list because it becomes dirty, just so you know ok
Me: Do you get new lists a lot?
Bullseye: no, theres not enough webmasters willing to sell their member lists im affraid, but you will have time to test the lists and things anyway mate
Me: Okay
Me: How many times should I send emails to this list?
Bullseye: send in baches
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AFTER EMAILS WERE SENT:
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Bullseye: what happend to the site??
Me: The guy that hosted it is pissed, he is posting about it everywhere telling all these webmasters that I was spamming, is there anyting I can do to straighten this out? I didn't know this was going to be such a mess
Bullseye: to be honest i had the same problem myself one time!
change servers and find someone not so stupid! these fools are such idiots!!
Bullseye: post the server details on black lists on webmaster borads
Bullseye: give me the server details
Me: Why?
Bullseye: ill see what I can do, I know most people I will have words
Bullseye: just ther server name i mean
Me: Do you want his icq?
Bullseye: ok, yeah that will do
Bullseye: ok, you got his email address instead?
Me: **********
That is his icq, please don't get me in more shit!
Bullseye: i wont, ill get back to you sometime on it
Me: okay
Me: Your talking with him?
Bullseye: I have tried, im going to gather IP stamping for addresses to prove no spam was sent, ;)
Me: So all will be fine?
Bullseye: hopefully
Bullseye: try to get you back online at least!!
Me: He said if you can prove where they came from or where they are optin, then everything will be settled..
Bullseye: ok tats cool then
ill do my best for you
Me: Can you show him the ip stamp on his girlfriends email? Thats all he wants to see.
Bullseye: he needs to tell me the mail, and ill find the details
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couple hours later......
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Me: He wants to see ip stamping for the whole 10,000 emails and the ip stamp for his girlfriendfs.
Bullseye: ok, ill see what I can do, but as i explained to him i have to goto the orginatling souces to find that information, its not instant
Me: How long will this take?
Bullseye: depends how quickly thay reply, probally get it for tommorow morning
Me: But your positive you can do this? Or did you gather these emails or something?
Bullseye: the optin mails all have ip and time stamps its just finding them
Me: He is going to get his lawyers after me if I don't provide ip stamps and everything. I didn't know this was all going to happen. Has anyone else bought these emails off you?
Bullseye: yes they have, ill get on to it straight away ok, ill get back to you soon
Me: Okay
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Haven't talked with him since....
That is everything that has been talked about and that has happened.I never knew anything about spamming. I thought if emails were optin and if you give the person a way to be removed, then everything
would be fine. I also didn't think that this would have such a big effect on the server, and people's jobs. I have apoligized to everyone a lot already and I know I don't deserve to be treated good at all. I still however would like to prevent this from happening anymore.