I'm going to start this by saying two things: In seven years of doing biz online in the adult market, I've never taken a money matter 'to the boards.' I've never had to. Shit happens - and there have been times when I've been the cause of it, but in the end, the people on both ends knew that things would be made right, and they were. I'm no longer confident of this in this case.
Times are tough, and we're one of the many who lost our merchant account in the Card Services fiasco, so I can no longer afford to let this slide.
Second - if I get my money - I'll post about that as well, and make it known. I'm not involved in any popularity contests, on the board or off, and will step up and say that I was wrong.
In February of this year, I paid 1650 dollars to Nelto (Nelson) of tgpbuilders.com to build me a 100k tgp. In the following months, the site never got up to more than 750-800 visitors a day. Pages of ICQ's about this resulted in promises that 'traffic was starting'. In EVERY case - without exception - the traffic never started. Every promised target date was missed, over a 6 month period.
At the beginning of August, I requested a refund. It took some hammering, but I finally got a reply and was told the money would be sent. At one point, I was told it had been sent, and that the wire would take up to 2 weeks to arrive. I asked for evidence of the wire, was promised I would get it the next day. It took 3 days to get a copy of the 'scan'. The scan showed an amount of 1620 dollars, and looks to be a copy of his bank statement, not the bank wire. There's no evidence from what I was sent that this amount was coming to my account.
As of this morning, I still don't have my money, and in speaking to my bank, they feel it's highly unlikely that it was actually sent based on the information provided and the time that has passed.
I have noticed in the past when someone has 'gone public' re: Nelson and tgpbuilders.com that he replies stating that the webmaster was at fault. They hadn't designed their site correctly, scripts were not installed, etc. In the case of our site, he accepted both the design and script installation in February. Our site has always been up, the scripts always worked. He simply never delivered.
These are difficult times, both for us personally, as well as for the industry as a whole. If tgpbuilders.com is, as he says, an ethical business, it's time to step up to the plate and make things right. If not, then hopefully this thread will serve as a warning to others (I noticed he just did a redesign of tgpbuilders.com).
I have copies of ICQ logs, as well as screenshots to back up my story. I have no agenda, other than a desire to not get ripped off and to get needed cash to handle obligations we have both as a business and personally.
Times are tough, and we're one of the many who lost our merchant account in the Card Services fiasco, so I can no longer afford to let this slide.
Second - if I get my money - I'll post about that as well, and make it known. I'm not involved in any popularity contests, on the board or off, and will step up and say that I was wrong.
In February of this year, I paid 1650 dollars to Nelto (Nelson) of tgpbuilders.com to build me a 100k tgp. In the following months, the site never got up to more than 750-800 visitors a day. Pages of ICQ's about this resulted in promises that 'traffic was starting'. In EVERY case - without exception - the traffic never started. Every promised target date was missed, over a 6 month period.
At the beginning of August, I requested a refund. It took some hammering, but I finally got a reply and was told the money would be sent. At one point, I was told it had been sent, and that the wire would take up to 2 weeks to arrive. I asked for evidence of the wire, was promised I would get it the next day. It took 3 days to get a copy of the 'scan'. The scan showed an amount of 1620 dollars, and looks to be a copy of his bank statement, not the bank wire. There's no evidence from what I was sent that this amount was coming to my account.
As of this morning, I still don't have my money, and in speaking to my bank, they feel it's highly unlikely that it was actually sent based on the information provided and the time that has passed.
I have noticed in the past when someone has 'gone public' re: Nelson and tgpbuilders.com that he replies stating that the webmaster was at fault. They hadn't designed their site correctly, scripts were not installed, etc. In the case of our site, he accepted both the design and script installation in February. Our site has always been up, the scripts always worked. He simply never delivered.
These are difficult times, both for us personally, as well as for the industry as a whole. If tgpbuilders.com is, as he says, an ethical business, it's time to step up to the plate and make things right. If not, then hopefully this thread will serve as a warning to others (I noticed he just did a redesign of tgpbuilders.com).
I have copies of ICQ logs, as well as screenshots to back up my story. I have no agenda, other than a desire to not get ripped off and to get needed cash to handle obligations we have both as a business and personally.
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