EpicCash offers free trip to internext in jan

What does a trip in the us cost? 100 bucks?

from los angeles it's $100. canada i bet is $300-$400

round trip? its 300

ill toss in cab fair to and from hotel

thats another 16 bucks

lol

im changing the rules.. send me 100 sales and you have till december todo it.

Anyways it's better than nothing

Depends where you are. San Diego is about $100. New York could probably be upwards of $4-500. Plus the timing also plays a huge role in the prices. Sometimes I forget to buy my Christmas flight tickets and end up paying $600 instead of $300.

send 200 and I will let you buy me a drink

Only condition: you have to protect Pimpdog from Joesho.

joesho is suing me... he wont come near me.

I always get fucked out of the good contests! Everybody gives trips to Vegas, but I live here damn it!

your not serious.. for what?

he is sueing me,, let me post the chat log

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Joesho (4:30 PM) :

I am here now, sorry, I had some things to take catre of today.

Epic Media (4:31 PM) :

np

Epic Media (4:31 PM) :

so where do we begin?

Epic Media (4:32 PM) :

i understand your frustration with meaand how you feel

Joesho (4:34 PM) :

well, I think the problem is the irresponsible statment you made, and the fact that we have suffered damages from that, immiediate, and unforseen.

I do not care what you say about me , or what methods you use to get you business acomplished, but the outright damaging lie you said to me personally is my only problem with you at this point.

I may not agrre with some of your tacticts, but I do not have a problem with them either, that is for weach individual to decide for themselves...

Epic Media (4:36 PM) :

I understand, and I do appologise for that.. however.. you made threats to me before i made that statement (not that it was right for me to retalliate with it ) but you have also been riding my ass for a couple weeks now.. im not justifying my actions, but i think saying i damaged your business is taking it far because nobody would ever beleive it especially coming from me

Epic Media (4:36 PM) :

death threat vs child molester.. which is more beleivable?

Joesho (4:36 PM) :

I mean you can call my mother a whore, say you fucked my wife, call me a fat shit eating no dick mother fucker, I know that is part of the business, and I do not get offended by that stuff.

Epic Media (4:36 PM) :

neither

Epic Media (4:37 PM) :

you are reading to much into it man.. it was nothing.. how many ppl have i said it too and they just laugh it off and get over it... I do want to work this out with you, but i dont know what its going to take

Joesho (4:38 PM) :

but me riding you ass, as you call it, is me responding to threads where you attack business venture partners of mine, by adressing those issues?

Epic Media (4:38 PM) :

like who?

Epic Media (4:38 PM) :

i diont recall ever attacking you before.. and these peoplea re adults they can stick up for themselves

Joesho (4:39 PM) :

and if you look closer, you were the one that started with the I am going to punch joesho in the mouth thread, I have never started a thread like that with you, then I responded... you then did your normal tactic, wich did not bother me at all, in fact we never even gave pulling epic cash from RT a thought at that point, it wasn't till you crossed the line with that particular damging statment, that we had a serious problem in my eyes.

Epic Media (4:40 PM) :

yes i know that i started it that day.. but prior to that you kept riding me

Joesho (4:41 PM) :

but the fact remain,s I would never have a problem with anything you call me or say about me, ( with the exception of this very damaging statement) I would like to move on from this too, but I do not know what you have in mind....

Epic Media (4:41 PM) :

name 1 way that i damaged your business.. infact, i know i brought you business from all that stuff

Epic Media (4:41 PM) :

well i dont either? i can appologise all day long and i dont think that will matter to you.. what else is there?

Joesho (4:41 PM) :

sure, I was riding you, just like is the spirit of GFY, and you of all people know how that works LOL

Epic Media (4:42 PM) :

yea exactly.... i took it to far, i do all the time.. everyone seems to accept it but you.. and im trying to straighten it out

Joesho (4:46 PM) :

well trey, as you know, I have spoken to a couple lawyers on this matter, and they will be the ones to list out the ways my business was damaged, that is not for me to do, I hate lawyers, and I hate courts, but I am obviously not crazy either, ( as I am sure yu gathered now by all the questions you have asked about me) but unfortunatly, how else do I penalize the statment, and rectify it by exonerating me as to what the allegations you made have done ? I do not want to humiliate you either, I understand tyhat an amicable solution can be worked on by us at this point, however, I was advised that if I did chose to speak to you in regards to this matter, that I am to tell you, that any conversation we have is for settlement purposes only, and unless agreed too has no bearing on my right to sue.... ( lawyer made me say the disclaimer, I wish it was not in this arena) and hope you have some kind of reasonable settlement ideas, as I would like to see us move past this as soon as possible too.

Joesho (4:51 PM) :

I would pupose some financial penalty to you, and a formal apology, and we can move on, but it seems by your continued posts, ( like we are shaving 25% and you have proof) would indicate to me that you might not be interested in this path. and like I said, I could care less what you call me or say abvout me in doing your thing, it is when they are outright business effecting lies that I have a probl;em.

the only apology I am speaking of here, is for the sopecific allegation we are referring too, I dont care what else you say about me or call me after that , if that is what you feel you need to do to have face over this, again I am not interested in humiliating you, I am only interested in setting the wrong to be right.

Epic Media (4:51 PM) :

nah i understand.. but is a death threat not a viable countersuit?

Epic Media (4:51 PM) :

why even go that route... its not worth the time or money.. when we are both willing to solve this

Epic Media (4:51 PM) :

that post was made yesterday when i had no indication you planned on speaking with me

Joesho (4:52 PM) :

if that is the path you would like to go, but those things are complimented by your own mutual death threats, and did not take place until after your lie.

Joesho (4:53 PM) :

I agree, I would rather not pay some lawyer 30% to try to hurt our industry, as I can see the news story now, I mean you got my legal weed growing on one hand, and Ians history on another, and the board would be brought into it, etc... it could be a mess... but I would need to know what you have in mind to settle and rsolve this.

Epic Media (4:54 PM) :

im sorry, but money is out of the question... your business was not damanged.. and any lawyer can twist it around to thier advantage and CLAIM i did this and this and potentially did this.. i know all about how it works

Epic Media (4:54 PM) :

i brought you business and attntion to your program and you know it

Joesho (4:55 PM) :

Ok sorry to hear that, I would have rather settled out of court.

Epic Media (4:55 PM) :

yea same here

Epic Media (5:01 PM) :

my lawyer just saw this conversation and im affraid to say but extortion is illegal.... you really do not want todo this do you? we can solve this like grown adults

Joesho (5:04 PM) :

haha extortion, that is funny if you want to reach a settlement like an adult, you must first act like one. the choice is yours, we can settle on the damages you caused us to suffer, and you can formally apologize ( to the specific statment you made calling me a child molestor, and alleging you had proof) or we can let the lawyers settle it, I wanted to give you the opportunity out of respect for some of our mutual business associatse, but you seem to think this is some kind of game, so unless you seriously want to visit the settlement idea, then I am afraid I will have to stop trying to reach one with you, and let them handle it.

Epic Media (5:04 PM) :

come on dude, you are asking for money to solve this?

Epic Media (5:04 PM) :

i brought you business and you cant deny it

Joesho (5:05 PM) :

I am asking or recovery of damages tha ta blatent malicious lie you said about me to over a potentil 500K viewers could cause. I am not interested in trying to harm you, only in repairing the harm you have caused me and my business.

Epic Media (5:06 PM) :

just out of curiosity, whata re you seeking if i may ask?

Joesho (5:14 PM) :

I am a fair person, and like I said, I am not out to try to bend you over, I am only out to recover our losses. you think about it, and decide what you would think is fair, and I will talk that over with my partners but you asked what it would take, and I told you 1.) a formal apology as to the specific allegation you made falsley. 2.) a monetary sum for damges we have sustained, and then the future loss part of it will be waived by us then... it seems to me that you do not want to purue this course though ( I hope you change you mind, cause a battle in open court is never a good thing for exposure) I am a reasonable person, and am seeking a reasonable settlement as a result of your direct unreasonable damaging statement. if you wish to pursue settlement further with me directly, the n we need to be talking about some kind of offer from you. if this seems unreasionable to you, we will have no other alternative but to seek recovery from damages and let other peole judge what is reasonable. again this is not a threat, and I wish there was another way, but if you fail to want to find that way, that is your choice, and I will have to stop talking to you. and let it escalate. as you know once the attorneys get involved, tyalking directly will be out of the question...

Epic Media (5:16 PM) :

i could offer you 500 or i could offer you 50k.. somehow i dont think either is reasonable.. you have to prove you lost business over my stateemnt opening your books. and if you arent losing money then you lost nothing

Joesho (5:19 PM) :

OK. again sorry to hear that is your choice. but we are prepared to do what we need to, and damages are mounting on a daily basis.

Joesho (5:20 PM) :

and for the record, opening my books is not a problem for me.

Epic Media (5:21 PM) :

i didnt say it was.. the point was if you are not losing business over my actions then there is no claim other than lible.. based on your past business financials, i cant imagine it being much

Epic Media (5:21 PM) :

i will take the risk i suppose

well...

all i can say is i dont promote either of you at this point and i did read your thead battles for a couple days and had a good chuckle. As far as it effecting me promoting or working with either of you... no way.. i never take anything said on this board seriously or personnally... someone calls me a pedo.. meh oh well ive been called worse to my face.

as far as a law suit goes.. im not sure how anyone could prove you calling someone names on a board would incure them any losses but if he can.. and you did.. maby now i do remeber him threating you.. alot.. and seriously.. so you probly have a valid counter suit...

imho the whole thing is rather childish over a message board and untill now hadent given the issue a second though, and im sure alot of other gfy'ers probly feel the same way

Just my

exactly.. he is just being greedy.. im not worried.. he has no money and i can keep him in court till he is broke, because no lawyer is going tot ake the case without being paid hourly.

I can send about 20-30 per day... pay me $35 like most other programs and I might consider it. And I want that free airfare and shit on the side... with free hotel, and free strippers... and some free hennessey aswell.

Ohh and you also gotta throw in free spending money also.

Basically I'll send u 500 joins in 1 month and I get a free all-expense paid trip... and ofcourse the $35 x 500 = $17500

Deal.

hahaha... that's hilarious.

joesho cracks me up.

trey, if it goes to court, i'll testify that joesho has also threatened your employees.

polak... how about we start on a sliding scale? payouts start at $20 per join and work their way up to $70 per join (twice as much as you're asking for).

this would be on our cam site. contact me on icq (214702014) or email (psyko514 @ gmail.com) if you're interested and i'll hook you up.

i'm a polak too

Legal drama, keep up up to date

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there you have it, polak.

and the payout scale if your pushing out cams program would look like this:

joins 1-10 - $20
joins 11-20 - $25
joins 21-30 - $30
joins 31-50 - $40
joins 51-100 - $50
joins 101-250 - $60
joins 251-1000 - $70

this is on a per-period basis. so say you can send 20 joins a day. thats 300 in a pay period. you'd make $16550 in one pay period. that's $33100 in a month.

do it with 30 joins a day and we're talking $27050 in a period, $54100 in a month.

so if you're down, sign up now and get the links up

Oh dear, you don´t take those board discussions seriously, do you? Donate half of the amount a lawyer will cost to a child to fight cancer or something like that, send each other flowers (of course not those like in Loryn´s pic) and be friends.

It doesn´t make sence to take those discussions more seriously as they are, just my

Joesho is not a child molester? I read it so many times I figured it had some merit.

pay me something under the table and all this can go away? Hmmmmmmm

extortion.

he's not the one being greedy. joesho is. joesho is the one threatening to sue and asking for a large cash settlement.

LOL
I can't believe how seriously some people take GFY (and themselves for that matter)
Joesho, you crack me up

Joesho, you are full of more shit than a Xmas turkey.

It's my understanding that part of defamation also depends on the credibility of the speaker. If a crazy man says crazy things about X company, nobody is going to take the crazy man seriously, which means X company isn't going to lose any business.

If anyone actually believes joesho is a child molester, they're a moron that has no business to conduct anyway. The people who do have business, have a brain and know it's bull shit.

Another key part of defamation is actual damages. If Remote Thumbs has seen monetary damages since pimpdogs statement, I'll eat a horses penis. I simply don't believe it. I never heard of RT until all this hoo-rah started up.

The comment was too much. However, since it was from pimpdog and not someone like Lensman, there's no credibility to the statement. It isn't a legal issue, it's a board issue, should be treated as such.

Joesho if you were smart you would ride each and every comment from pimpdog to the bank. I hope he gets pissed off at me some day, maybe I'll piss in his Corn Flakes.

i've taken the liberty of italicizing the key part of your post

100 sales and I a air ticket plus cab fare? i got our air for less than $200 on priceline

then there is the hotel and all that shit

wasn't there are less known program giving away air, hotel and passes for the florida one?

sorry p1mpdogg, but this ones seems kind of cheap...and your not usually like that

I liked the old beat-up pickup truck you offered last year better

you also get paid for the 100 sales. and you have 4 months to send 100 sales.

Like 300 $ ...

nice pimpdoggy :P count me in as soon as I'm done with badcow and another one .

Are you guys co-branding for ClickCash now?!

Ah, sorry. I got it wrong. But anyways, I think it´s for both. I bought content from the one and was satisfied with his business, I signed up to epiccash yesterday and got a very nice support from EpicJen.

That´s what is important for me. And all this drama? Maybe a nice marketing thing. God knows who was involved to.

pathetic

God so many haters ... for once the giveaways are actually usefull ...

haha.. that's some amusing reading.

p1mpdogg = effective marketing techniques

make it worldwide and I might be game

I never heard of Joe's program until a few days ago while reading some of this drama. It looks nice.

100 Sales till december???

Lol... plane tickets don't cost just $100.. these are people who live in major cities talking garbage, I live in a small city and it costs me $300 almost easily to fly out of this place anywhere I go unless it's within 1/2 hour flying time, then it's maybe $150..

Thats after shopping around..

So if you think this isnt a fair deal then you have issues, this is a great deal... You get paid for the sales and you get a bonus rount trip ticket to las vegas...

isn't internext in nov ?

January.

i believe the word is "competing".

if i send 200 sales will i get free trip from europe ?