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09-01-2004, 07:46 AM

So, the wife and I were discussing the possiblity of moving. These were the two Canadian cities that we discussed.

What would be the pros and cons of moving to either of these places.

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09-01-2004, 07:49 AM

Vancouver..surrounded by mountians and the ocean..you can ski and hike and we are multicultural.We just had a awesome summer about 3 months of steady sunshine and rarely get any significant snow at all.Like maybe a inch or two once or twice in the winter..

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09-01-2004, 07:50 AM

i live in toronto but i am hoping to move to vancouver in a couple months

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09-01-2004, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by spunky1
multicultural

this is what made Vancouver wat it is today, and i must say for the bad.
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09-01-2004, 07:52 AM

I love both cities but right now I currently live in Toronto. It depends on what you looking for. Toronto has great nightlife and a lot of stuff to do city wise. Vancouver has beautiful scenery, mountains, ocean, lots of skiing and so on as stated above. Toronto most of the time has humid summers, and really cold and snowy winters. Toronto does have good hiking and canoeing and so on just outside of it. Toronto barely has a spring, or fall, it's is mostly winter and summer. Toronto is also very multi cultural.

Wait, why do I love it here so much? LOL

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09-01-2004, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo
So, the wife and I were discussing the possiblity of moving. These were the two Canadian cities that we discussed.

What would be the pros and cons of moving to either of these places.

MOST input is appreciated.

Montreal is out of the question? heheh
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09-01-2004, 07:52 AM

Vancouver, definitely.

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09-01-2004, 07:52 AM

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Montreal is out of the question? heheh

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09-01-2004, 07:53 AM

If you like rain, head to Vancouver.

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09-01-2004, 07:53 AM

Ron my friend.. you know that we are here.. and sweetums / vid is just up the road.

Vacouver is nice, but unless you can read chinese signs - then toronto is a safer happening city.

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09-01-2004, 07:54 AM

Vancouver is a truly great city.

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09-01-2004, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by MetaMan
this is what made Vancouver wat it is today, and i must say for the bad.

It does have it's advantages being you can experience all the differant cultures but also being surrounded by asians and east indians makes you feel like a immigrant..But there's plenty of room for all of us.They tend to stick to themselves anyways.

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09-01-2004, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Vitasoy
If you like rain, head to Vancouver.

shows how much you know about Vancouver..

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09-01-2004, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by spunky1
It does have it's advantages being you can experience all the differant cultures but also being surrounded by asians and east indians makes you feel like a immigrant..But there's plenty of room for all of us.They tend to stick to themselves anyways.

i cant say i dont like van because i do, but around 7 years ago when it was a truly nice city, i think to much immigration in cities ends up ruining them,

anyone been to Calgary lately we are sure enjoying this surplus, and roads are going crazy. 100% of the city is being repaved and overpasses are going up on every major intersection.

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09-01-2004, 07:56 AM

Toronto if you are young and like to party all night long , otherwise go to Vancouver

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09-01-2004, 07:57 AM

Toronto suck! Vancouver is THE city!

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09-01-2004, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by Odie
shows how much you know about Vancouver..

Are you telling me it does not rain most of the time? I'd say at least 60-70%.

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09-01-2004, 07:59 AM

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can u say FRENCH PEOPLE

Really, there are French people in Quebec? My oh my ;) Diversity is always good - understanding others is always a compliment to your growth. Speaking/understanding many languages builds up your culture. Blinding yourself from it or shunning others doesn't leave you much room to grow! It's a splendid thing to see all the lanuages that are spoken in this great city!
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09-01-2004, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Vitasoy
Are you telling me it does not rain most of the time? I'd say at least 60-70%.

umm noo, Toronto actually got more rain than Vancouver this year. For the most part Vancouver had a great summer! They were even worried about it being too dry. Lots of forest fires out there.

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09-01-2004, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by MetaMan
i cant say i dont like van because i do, but around 7 years ago when it was a truly nice city, i think to much immigration in cities ends up ruining them,

anyone been to Calgary lately we are sure enjoying this surplus, and roads are going crazy. 100% of the city is being repaved and overpasses are going up on every major intersection.

Calgary sounds attractive being debt free and no GST.Also lots of work available for what I heard.I just can't stand the winters..I like seeing the snow in the mountians and not driving in it.Living here it's the Little old chinese women that don't know how to drive in the shit and plow into everything that freaks me out.Good thing it doesn't snow hardly at all.

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09-01-2004, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by spunky1
Calgary sounds attractive being debt free and no GST.Also lots of work available for what I heard.I just can't stand the winters..I like seeing the snow in the mountians and not driving in it.I think it's the Little old chinese women that don't know how to drive in the shit and plow into everything that freaks me out.

thats why u head to Phoenix during winter ;)

i used to live in winnipeg so i know all bout winter.
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09-01-2004, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by spunky1
Calgary sounds attractive being debt free and no GST.Also lots of work available for what I heard.I just can't stand the winters..I like seeing the snow in the mountians and not driving in it.Living here it's the Little old chinese women that don't know how to drive in the shit and plow into everything that freaks me out.Good thing it doesn't snow hardly at all.

no GST? no sales tax is great though. Banff is the place to be of anywhere in Alberta imo

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09-01-2004, 08:06 AM

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no GST? no sales tax is great though. Banff is the place to be of anywhere in Alberta imo

pffffffffffffffff SHHHHHHH us albertans are not supposed to spread the great spots, we cant have everyone living there now can we?
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09-01-2004, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Odie
umm noo, Toronto actually got more rain than Vancouver this year. For the most part Vancouver had a great summer! They were even worried about it being too dry. Lots of forest fires out there.

Other then summer, it does rain most of the time... :-) I'm just letting him know. Vancouver is a great city.

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09-01-2004, 08:07 AM

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Calgary sounds attractive being debt free and no GST.

I think you mean no PST. Otherwise, the CCRA would hate for me to move my company to Calgary

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09-01-2004, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Vitasoy
Are you telling me it does not rain most of the time? I'd say at least 60-70%.

When was the last time you were here?..Or do you live here?Only in the past week we had a little rain.It must have been atleast 3 months that we haven't had any rain at all.I think the global warming has fucked up everybodies weather patterns.Maybe it rains a bit more in the winter is probably what you are thinking of.

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09-01-2004, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Odie
shows how much you know about Vancouver..

With Regards to weather, Vancouver has 3 types of weather patterns.

October - March: Wet and rainy, days grow shorter, long periods of cloudy skies, and many intense rainstorms. Expect dry cloudy days, and 1 or 2 day breaks in between storms. January and February tend to be drier and can have extended periods of clear skies and sunshine. Temperatures during these periods can be quite mild, or conversely, very cold. It is uncommon, but arctic outflows will drive the temperatures down to -10°C at night, or even lower. These spells usually end with a big snowstorm. Snow is not uncommon in Vancouver, and when it happens, there is usually more as you go higher, or further east in the city.

April-June, Transitional. Can be either. Expect heavy rain showers, then sun, maybe thunderstorms... weather can be snowy in march, and hit 25°C in late april. Transition from spring to summer in June can drag on...

July-September, Predominantly dry. Some clouds and showers will occur, perhaps thunderstorms if conditions are right. Temperatures can soar well above 30° away from the water. The sea-breeze effect keeps the coast moderated even on hot days.

The rainy season usually hits with a bang sometime in October.

The total amount of rain that falls greatly depends on your proximity to mountains! The airport is our official weather station, but records far less precipitation than the city actually gets!
YVR avg is about 1200mm/year, Downtown is 1500mm/yr, Port Moody can be around 1800mm in the valley, and up to 2500mm in the up-hill neighbourhoods. The North shore has areas that can have well over 3000mm of rain per year.

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09-01-2004, 08:13 AM

Toronto has some of the nicest weather in the country... the city has a great night life... more metropolitan... more to do, cleaner, more money, etc. Toronto has less beauty and farther to drive to go somewhere nice.

Vancouver has beauty all around it... if you like to camp etc, and LEAVE the city often, Van is great. Van itself is boring, no nightlife, dirty, full of bums and scammers and nobody has money. I lived there for 2 years and I would never live there again.

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09-01-2004, 08:14 AM

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09-01-2004, 08:14 AM

Toronto is Grand Central Station
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09-01-2004, 08:17 AM

Need weather stats here, here ya go...

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/wea...6.htm?CABC0308

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09-01-2004, 08:19 AM

I went from Toronto to Vancouver to Montreal... for me, I went from worst to best.

Toronto: too pretentious for me

Vancouver: best weather and surroundings

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09-01-2004, 08:23 AM

Every major quality of life survey that comes out usually has Vancouver in the top 3 cities IN THE WORLD.

I lived in Toronto for about 5 years, I was born and lived until 18 in Montreal and have lived in major US cities (most recently San Francisco prior to moving to Vancouver), and I can say without hesitation that Vancouver would be my choice.

My only recommendation is that you do not end up in the suburbs. Get a place downtown area (West End, Yaletown, Coal Harbour, Kitsilano). This will make all the difference in your experiences here and give you walking access to beaches, forests, nightlife...
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09-01-2004, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Odie
umm noo, Toronto actually got more rain than Vancouver this year.

Add them up you'll know ;)

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09-01-2004, 08:27 AM

Again, I'm just offering up stats, so you are aware off the weather conditions. Vancouver is a great city.

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09-01-2004, 08:28 AM

Toronto maybe got more rain, but at least Toronto gets SUN. If you enjoy going for a month at a time a couple times a year without seeing the sun, then you'll love Vancouver. Toronto is sunny all winter long.

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09-01-2004, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by dready
Toronto maybe got more rain, but at least Toronto gets SUN. If you enjoy going for a month at a time a couple times a year without seeing the sun, then you'll love Vancouver. Toronto is sunny all winter long.

By looking at the numbers, looks like Vancouver had more rain.

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09-01-2004, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by dready
Toronto has some of the nicest weather in the country... the city has a great night life... more metropolitan... more to do, cleaner, more money, etc. Toronto has less beauty and farther to drive to go somewhere nice.

Vancouver has beauty all around it... if you like to camp etc, and LEAVE the city often, Van is great. Van itself is boring, no nightlife, dirty, full of bums and scammers and nobody has money. I lived there for 2 years and I would never live there again.

what he said^^ yup Van is reallllly boring..slow paced..if you like that then I suggest u move there..

Toronto on the other hand is alot faster paced and fun.

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09-01-2004, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by spunky1
When was the last time you were here?..Or do you live here?Only in the past week we had a little rain.It must have been atleast 3 months that we haven't had any rain at all.I think the global warming has fucked up everybodies weather patterns.Maybe it rains a bit more in the winter is probably what you are thinking of.

It's comming ;)

October - March: Wet and rainy, days grow shorter, long periods of cloudy skies, and many intense rainstorms (depends where you live ;) . Expect dry cloudy days, and 1 or 2 day breaks in between storms.

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09-01-2004, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Odie
what he said^^ yup Van is reallllly boring..slow paced..if you like that then I suggest u move there..

Toronto on the other hand is alot faster paced and fun.

"Van itself is boring, no nightlife, dirty, full of bums and scammer"

Are you now dissing Vancouver??

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09-01-2004, 08:38 AM

Move to the Big Smoke
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09-01-2004, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by dready
Toronto maybe got more rain, but at least Toronto gets SUN. If you enjoy going for a month at a time a couple times a year without seeing the sun, then you'll love Vancouver. Toronto is sunny all winter long.

Lol..Let the people who actually live here state the facts,You once lived here ,it is differant now... We had a record summer..No significant rain for atleast 3 months..It is alot differant since the last time you were here.
The people who actually live here can say the same thing.
Toronto is too much like New York..too much crime and the big city problems

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09-01-2004, 08:46 AM

Global warming:

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09-01-2004, 08:48 AM

Vancouver has Kurt and Goldie, and herds of Caribou.

Toronto has Prince, but not the NPG, and herds of elk. It also has many native Indians that specialize in Igloo construction and cheap slave labour on Hollywood North sets.

Vancouver is a main docking port for Chinese immigrants with larger than normal tailpipes on their Accuras.

Toronto is a main docking port for Chinese immigrants with larger than normal tailpipes on their Accuras.

Vancouver has mountains, Toronto has culture.

Vancouver has trapper outposts, Toronto has full scale teepee condos.

Vancouver has Diana Krall and dentistry-needing grumpy tunesmith Elvis Costello.

Toronto has the tragically hip.

Toronto is about money, Vancouver about the body.

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09-01-2004, 08:48 AM

Nice weather comparing site.

Gives you info, about weather all over the country...

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/

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09-01-2004, 08:51 AM

I loved Vancouver and I recently moved back to Ontario as I love it here too.

What it came down to for us was..I want to buy a house this year with an actual yard and a bit of property. I can spend the 400,000 on a 600 sq ft condo downtown Vancouver, with the hopes of getting parking with that..but hey I would have a closet with the most beautiful view anyone could ask for. I'm a bit of a snob and really did'nt care for the burbs of Vancouver.. so I settled for 55 mins north of Toronto.. I will get more house/property for under 300K than I would anywhere in the Greater Vancouver Area.

All depends on what you want your cost of living, lifestyle and future to be. Both centers have definite pros and cons.

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09-01-2004, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by dready
Toronto maybe got more rain, but at least Toronto gets SUN. If you enjoy going for a month at a time a couple times a year without seeing the sun, then you'll love Vancouver. Toronto is sunny all winter long.

Is there two Torontos?

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09-01-2004, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Vitasoy
"Van itself is boring, no nightlife, dirty, full of bums and scammer"

Are you now dissing Vancouver??

no I'm not dissing Vancouver. I was just stating from my own experiences, that it was boring. The hospitality I received at the bars and restaurants was below average and not very hospitable actually.

don't get me wrong, Van is beautiful to visit if you like the scenery but it was just too slow for me.

trust me Toronto isn't the greatest either..I'd much rather live in Barcelona, Spain

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09-01-2004, 09:03 AM

For Toronto... temperatures can get below zero in the winter, (keep in mind you'll be freezing from november till beginning of april. So you get the idea on the other side.

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09-01-2004, 09:03 AM

If you like to do stuff indoors (eg concerts, bars, high powered career) move to Toronto.

If you like to do stuff outdoors (ski, year round golf, hiking, boating, growing pot) move to Vancouver.

I've lived in both, currently live in Vancouver and have no intention of ever moving back to TO. Ever.

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