Originally posted by johndoebob I always wonder about that support thing, I can understand that some people only give big site owners a chance because because they don't want to have their sites over promoted that fast but I wonder who really needs support all day?
I bet the smaller affiliates are where most of the support goes. Complaining on the boards because they only got 1 sale out of 500 clicks, claiming missing checks when they haven't reached the minimum payouts etc.
When you think about the cost to advertise on webmaster boards like GFY, booths at conventions, parties & the time to spam the boards &/or put out board drama fires...that's a hell of a lot of paid TGP spots, Adwords etc.
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Originally posted by KCat I bet the smaller affiliates are where most of the support goes. Complaining on the boards because they only got 1 sale out of 500 clicks, claiming missing checks when they haven't reached the minimum payouts etc.
When you think about the cost to advertise on webmaster boards like GFY, booths at conventions, parties & the time to spam the boards &/or put out board drama fires...that's a hell of a lot of paid TGP spots, Adwords etc.
From my experience, we've gained more in a few days giving out cash in a contest, than we've seen from our booth, banners ads on boards (even GFY), sigs or any other method.
The thread gets attention; people ICQ me. I talk with them and usually have no problems convincing them to try us out!
We make more, but then again have to payout affiliates and other expenses.
thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)
Originally posted by quiet thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)
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Right now around 55% of our business is from affiliates. Goes a bit higher during promotions.
Did you see my comment about your processing fees though? It looked around 15% unless I calculated wrong, on your volume you should get much less......
bring your top affiliates to promote www.videopasscash.com as well and we will cut you a monster deal.
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Originally posted by Varius Right now around 55% of our business is from affiliates. Goes a bit higher during promotions.
Did you see my comment about your processing fees though? It looked around 15% unless I calculated wrong, on your volume you should get much less......
i'm currently processing through ibill europe, i can't get into any details here, but the processing fees are significantly higher than the US.
Originally posted by Varius From my experience, we've gained more in a few days giving out cash in a contest, than we've seen from our booth, banners ads on boards (even GFY), sigs or any other method.
The thread gets attention; people ICQ me. I talk with them and usually have no problems convincing them to try us out!
After that, it's upto the numbers
That's fantastic! Glad to hear you're figuring out what works best. Hope you snagged some great affiliates.
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Originally posted by quiet i'm currently processing through ibill europe, i can't get into any details here, but the processing fees are significantly higher than the US.
The 15% is zip compared to the way less scrubing europe offers
Originally posted by quiet i've posted my stats several times over the years, wasn't ever going to do it again. one more time won't kill me i guess... year to date from ibill CMI Yearly Statement Summary. no affiliates. i have other stuff going on these days as well, but in an effort to keep that shit under wraps, i'll only post stats from the site most people associate with me.
note that this is AFTER all ibill fees, and is the actual wire money sent out...
Quiet, you're still getting a reserve withheld? I would talk to them about that...
if it makes you feel good, I'm grossing more and netting less than you are I've often thought of going to that one site model with darkcavern.com, but fetishbucks.com just has too many assets and too much money in it to kill it. Plus new sites coming out.
I think the potential for millions is higher with a bigger program but the irritations are also multiplied.
1 Barooga, Austraila $5,152.25
2 Burlington, Canada $4,055.96
3 Burlington, Canada $3,851.03
4 Lutz, USA $2,727.73
5 Maribor, SIovenia $2,446.92
6 Greer, USA $2,208.68
7 Trencin, Slovakia $2,095.69
8 Brandon, USA $1,925.85
9 Wichita, USA $1,841.17
10 Pembroke Pines, US $1,627.49
11 Champlin, USA $1,401.81
12 Lynn, US $1,380.99
13 loudonville, US $1,284.99
14 Fort Lauderdale, USA $1,204.05
15 Canberra, Australia $1,181.03
16 Edina, US $1,162.23
17 Toronto, Canada $1,159.38
18 Laredo, Mexico $1,140.43
19 Calabasas, USA $1,119.22
20 Agdenes, Norway $1,101.44
21 Moncton, Canada $1,096.23
22 Ann Arbor, USA $1,034.45
23 Vancouver, Canada $985.92
24 Tucson, USA $970.00
25 Helsinki, Finland $961.41
26 Zaandam, The Netherlands $949.32
27 Henderson, USA $881.94
28 Federal Way, US $879.67
29 Kiryat Shmuel, Israel $835.68
30 Regina, Canada $829.71
31 Klagenfurt, Austria $803.87
32 Montreal, Canada $795.88
33 Vancouver, Canada $790.00
34 Hong Kong, Hong Kong $782.69
35 Mar del Plata, Argentina $780.85
36 Dodgeville, US $775.86
37 Togliatti, Russia $765.00
38 Prestonsburg, USA $748.77
39 Toronto, Canada $719.04
40 Trebic, Czech Republic $709.86
41 Brno, Czech Republic $694.86
42 Hodonin, Czech republic $660.02
43 Deerfield Beach, USA $655.00
44 Vancouver, Canada $655.00
45 Buenos Aires, Argentina $639.94
46 Vancouver, Canada $636.97
47 Hillegom, Netherlands $623.10
48 Kings Park, USA $597.08
49 Osmangazi / BURSA, Turkey $576.17
50 Glendale, USA $557.27
51 Winston-Salem, USA $551.13
52 Wellington, New Zealand $536.16
53 Monte Estoril, Portugal $530.13
54 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $520.00
55 Thief River Falls, USA $506.22
56 Newhall, US $506.19
57 Calgary, Canada $506.13
58 Mar del Plata, Argentina $500.31
59 Togliatti, Russia $488.31
60 Davie, USA $485.25
61 Los Angeles, USA $485.10
62 La Grange, USA $485.05
63 Mountain View, USA $473.19
64 Riverside, USA $465.00
65 Indianapolis, US $458.28
66 Waterloo, Canada $455.34
67 Oxted, United Kingdom $455.00
68 Reston, USA $443.19
69 Costa Mesa, US $439.33
70 Savage, USA $408.47
71 elmhurst, US $383.43
72 Cave Creek, US $371.37
73 Toronto, Canada $368.46
74 Leszno, Poland $365.37
75 Phoenix, US $364.87
76 Plymouth, US $362.49
77 Dover, USA $356.49
78 Drasenhofen, Austria $356.40
79 East Moline, USA $353.43
80 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $333.50
81 Dunn, US $332.49
82 Huntington Beach, USA $326.49
83 North Las Vegas, US $320.52
84 Glenview, USA $315.53
85 Toronto, Canada $308.52
86 Calabasas, USA $305.00
87 Toronto, Canada $296.61
88 Fortitude Valley, Australia $296.58
89 Chatsworth, USA $296.58
90 State College, USA $293.49
91 Eindhoven, Netherlands $290.58
92 Carlsbad, US $287.61
93 Sesvete, croatia $284.61
94 Toronto, CA $284.61
95 Croydon, Australia $284.58
96 Ashburn, US $282.56
97 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $275.00
98 Seaford Rise, Australia $269.52
99 San Mateo, USA $263.61
100 Toronto, Canada $263.58
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P.S I'm number 1 this month too
Last edited by Aussie Rebel; 08-27-2004, 11:30 AM.
Originally posted by quiet thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)
Originally posted by iwantu Do you have any numbers? I am interested to know about the exact difference between EU scrubing and US scrubing.
Been a while since I checked but USA merchants are forced by visa to have 0.75% charge back ratio while UK based merchants are allowed 2.5% so work your math from that.
Originally posted by dig420 Quiet, you're still getting a reserve withheld? I would talk to them about that...
if it makes you feel good, I'm grossing more and netting less than you are I've often thought of going to that one site model with darkcavern.com, but fetishbucks.com just has too many assets and too much money in it to kill it. Plus new sites coming out.
I think the potential for millions is higher with a bigger program but the irritations are also multiplied.
darkcavern looks seriously great, that site must be doing extremely well. for sure there are pros and cons to both models - regardless, as long as we continue to pad our bank accounts for the inevitable, there is not much to complain about
1 Barooga, Austraila $5,152.25
2 Burlington, Canada $4,055.96
3 Burlington, Canada $3,851.03
4 Lutz, USA $2,727.73
5 Maribor, SIovenia $2,446.92
6 Greer, USA $2,208.68
7 Trencin, Slovakia $2,095.69
8 Brandon, USA $1,925.85
9 Wichita, USA $1,841.17
10 Pembroke Pines, US $1,627.49
11 Champlin, USA $1,401.81
12 Lynn, US $1,380.99
13 loudonville, US $1,284.99
14 Fort Lauderdale, USA $1,204.05
15 Canberra, Australia $1,181.03
16 Edina, US $1,162.23
17 Toronto, Canada $1,159.38
18 Laredo, Mexico $1,140.43
19 Calabasas, USA $1,119.22
20 Agdenes, Norway $1,101.44
21 Moncton, Canada $1,096.23
22 Ann Arbor, USA $1,034.45
23 Vancouver, Canada $985.92
24 Tucson, USA $970.00
25 Helsinki, Finland $961.41
26 Zaandam, The Netherlands $949.32
27 Henderson, USA $881.94
28 Federal Way, US $879.67
29 Kiryat Shmuel, Israel $835.68
30 Regina, Canada $829.71
31 Klagenfurt, Austria $803.87
32 Montreal, Canada $795.88
33 Vancouver, Canada $790.00
34 Hong Kong, Hong Kong $782.69
35 Mar del Plata, Argentina $780.85
36 Dodgeville, US $775.86
37 Togliatti, Russia $765.00
38 Prestonsburg, USA $748.77
39 Toronto, Canada $719.04
40 Trebic, Czech Republic $709.86
41 Brno, Czech Republic $694.86
42 Hodonin, Czech republic $660.02
43 Deerfield Beach, USA $655.00
44 Vancouver, Canada $655.00
45 Buenos Aires, Argentina $639.94
46 Vancouver, Canada $636.97
47 Hillegom, Netherlands $623.10
48 Kings Park, USA $597.08
49 Osmangazi / BURSA, Turkey $576.17
50 Glendale, USA $557.27
51 Winston-Salem, USA $551.13
52 Wellington, New Zealand $536.16
53 Monte Estoril, Portugal $530.13
54 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $520.00
55 Thief River Falls, USA $506.22
56 Newhall, US $506.19
57 Calgary, Canada $506.13
58 Mar del Plata, Argentina $500.31
59 Togliatti, Russia $488.31
60 Davie, USA $485.25
61 Los Angeles, USA $485.10
62 La Grange, USA $485.05
63 Mountain View, USA $473.19
64 Riverside, USA $465.00
65 Indianapolis, US $458.28
66 Waterloo, Canada $455.34
67 Oxted, United Kingdom $455.00
68 Reston, USA $443.19
69 Costa Mesa, US $439.33
70 Savage, USA $408.47
71 elmhurst, US $383.43
72 Cave Creek, US $371.37
73 Toronto, Canada $368.46
74 Leszno, Poland $365.37
75 Phoenix, US $364.87
76 Plymouth, US $362.49
77 Dover, USA $356.49
78 Drasenhofen, Austria $356.40
79 East Moline, USA $353.43
80 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $333.50
81 Dunn, US $332.49
82 Huntington Beach, USA $326.49
83 North Las Vegas, US $320.52
84 Glenview, USA $315.53
85 Toronto, Canada $308.52
86 Calabasas, USA $305.00
87 Toronto, Canada $296.61
88 Fortitude Valley, Australia $296.58
89 Chatsworth, USA $296.58
90 State College, USA $293.49
91 Eindhoven, Netherlands $290.58
92 Carlsbad, US $287.61
93 Sesvete, croatia $284.61
94 Toronto, CA $284.61
95 Croydon, Australia $284.58
96 Ashburn, US $282.56
97 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $275.00
98 Seaford Rise, Australia $269.52
99 San Mateo, USA $263.61
100 Toronto, Canada $263.58
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